From: papa sekhri papasekhri@hotmail.com
Sent: 09 February 2010 19:58
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj)
Cc: pk renjen; gen satbir singh
Subject: enrolement new members
Sir,
1.The following 12 members fm Noida have been enrolled:-
a)Col M R Thareja,------500/
b)Col Pankaj Sud--------500/
c)Sep Murlidhar---------100/
d)Cdr D V Dua-----------100/
e)Lt col B S Ahluwalia---100/+500/(donation)
f)Col Ashok Kumar-----500/
f)Hony Sub Maj a d kandpal--200/
g)Ltcol J R Rana--------100/
h)Brig A Dayal----------500/+500/(donation)
i)Maj Gen Basant Mullick--100/
j)Mrs Avinash Murti w/o late Ltcol Ram Murti
k)Mrs Usha Sah w/o late Maj O P Sah
2. Chqs for ser (a) to (h )have been deposited in the HDFC BK in Noida.
3.Ser (i)-Maj Gen Mullick had dropped his Hdfc bank a/c chq in the Hdfc bank ATM at PUNE on 08 jan10.The enrollment form has been completed now.
4. All the 12 forms along with the bank deposit slips are being sent by courier on 10 feb.
Regards,
col sekhri
Friday, February 12, 2010
IESM Tamilnadu- New Members
From: ramantn sarma colram40@yahoo.com
Sent: 09 February 2010 14:34
To: Rajagopalan S
Cc: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj); TRUNCATED
Subject: IESM Tamilnadu- New Members
Dear Commander Rajagopalan,
Received the five Membership forms with a cash of Rs 5,00/-. The amount has been deposited in the IESM acct, with HDFC Bank today & the on line Registration of them have been completed. On behalf of the Chairman IESM, I welcome the following New Members to our fold :-
Hav N Krishnamoorthy, Hav Arul, Cpl B Subramanian, Hav R Thiyagarajan & L/Nk V Arumugam.
I was also informed by Col N Viswanathan that you will be sending another 40 Forms shortly. I am thankful to you for your fine efforts in continuing with the enrolment. Well Done & Keep it up!!
Regards,
Veteran Raman
Sent: 09 February 2010 14:34
To: Rajagopalan S
Cc: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj); TRUNCATED
Subject: IESM Tamilnadu- New Members
Dear Commander Rajagopalan,
Received the five Membership forms with a cash of Rs 5,00/-. The amount has been deposited in the IESM acct, with HDFC Bank today & the on line Registration of them have been completed. On behalf of the Chairman IESM, I welcome the following New Members to our fold :-
Hav N Krishnamoorthy, Hav Arul, Cpl B Subramanian, Hav R Thiyagarajan & L/Nk V Arumugam.
I was also informed by Col N Viswanathan that you will be sending another 40 Forms shortly. I am thankful to you for your fine efforts in continuing with the enrolment. Well Done & Keep it up!!
Regards,
Veteran Raman
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
War-injured to get maximum pension?
Hindustantimes
epaper
February 2, 2010
Page 13
http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/
War-injured to get maximum pension?
HT Correspondent
letters@hindustantimes.com
NEW DELHI: The Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) has come to the help of war-injured soldiers and directed the government to consider a maximum of the pay scale for an officer while fixing his war injury pension.
The tribunal headed by Justice A.K. Mathur also advised the government not to differentiate between a short service commissioned officer and a permanent officer while granting death-cum-retirement gratuity (DCRG).
The tribunal accepted the plea of the petitioner Disabled War Veterans and held: "We strongly feel that it is a matter which requires a serious consideration of the Government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank. Therefore, looking yeoman service rendered by incumbent, he should be given a fair treatment."
Appearing for the petitioner, advocate Aiswarya Bhatti criticised the present government practice and said a war injury cut short an officer's service, forcing him to retire permanently. Therefore, she said, it would be harsh and unfair to the soldier if his maximum pay scale were not considered for determining the amount of war injury pension.
Observing that the discrimination on the basis of an officer's service violated Article 14 of the Constitution, the tribunal added: "Once the Short Service Commission officers and the Permanent Service Commission officers fight on the border shoulder to shoulder, they form same class and no further distinction can be made... and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in payment of DCRG
epaper
February 2, 2010
Page 13
http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/
War-injured to get maximum pension?
HT Correspondent
letters@hindustantimes.com
NEW DELHI: The Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) has come to the help of war-injured soldiers and directed the government to consider a maximum of the pay scale for an officer while fixing his war injury pension.
The tribunal headed by Justice A.K. Mathur also advised the government not to differentiate between a short service commissioned officer and a permanent officer while granting death-cum-retirement gratuity (DCRG).
The tribunal accepted the plea of the petitioner Disabled War Veterans and held: "We strongly feel that it is a matter which requires a serious consideration of the Government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank. Therefore, looking yeoman service rendered by incumbent, he should be given a fair treatment."
Appearing for the petitioner, advocate Aiswarya Bhatti criticised the present government practice and said a war injury cut short an officer's service, forcing him to retire permanently. Therefore, she said, it would be harsh and unfair to the soldier if his maximum pay scale were not considered for determining the amount of war injury pension.
Observing that the discrimination on the basis of an officer's service violated Article 14 of the Constitution, the tribunal added: "Once the Short Service Commission officers and the Permanent Service Commission officers fight on the border shoulder to shoulder, they form same class and no further distinction can be made... and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in payment of DCRG
Tribunal puts army in dock says different benefits for similar injuries is discrimination
Tribunal puts army in dock says different benefits for similar injuries is discrimination
Dhananjay Mahapatra, TNN, 3 February 2010, 02:48am IST
NEW DELHI: When a bullet coming from the other side of the border does not distinguish between a commissioned and non-commissioned officer in the Army, how can the government do so when it comes to grant of death-cum-retiremen t gratuity (DCRG), wondered the newly-constituted Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) headed by a retired Supreme Court judge.
In a major order that would assuage the long-standing grievance of the officers, both commissioned and non-commissioned, AFT principal Bench comprising chairperson Justice A K Mathur and member Lt Gen M L Naidu said this discrimination in payment of DCRG was violative of Article 14 (right to equality) guaranteed under the Constitution.
A petition filed by the Disabled War Veterans (India) through counsel Aishwarya Bhati had made two major grievances — one relating to the difference in payment of DCRG and the other regarding computation of pension for a disabled soldier.
Bhati had alleged that the government takes into account the minimum payscale in the rank of the disabled soldier to compute the war injury pension to him and had requested AFT to direct the Centre to consider taking into account the highest pay in the rank for the purpose.
AFT agreed on both counts with the counsel. On DCRG, it said once the short service commission officers and the permanent service commission officers fight on the border shoulder-to- shoulder, they formed the same class and no further distinction can be made.
"Once they form the same class and they are fighting shoulder-to- shoulder against the enemy and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in the payment of DCRG," the AFT said asking the government to take serious note of the anomaly and review the policy forthwith.
"We cannot give them benefit, but we can only request the government that this payment of DCRG on the basis of distinction between short service commission and regular service commission is highly discriminatory. We hope and trust that the government will remove this discrimination which is apparent on the face of it," it said.
Coming to computation of war injury pension, the AFT said the cause of injury which disabled a soldier and cut short his career was beyond the control of the personnel and such persons should be treated fairly by being given war injury pension on the basis of the highest pay in the rank.
"We feel strongly that it is a matter which requires serious consideration of the government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war disabled pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank," the AFT Bench said.
"The maximum scale of that rank should be considered for determining the amount of war injury pension," the AFT said disposing of the petition by the Disabled War Veterans.
dhananjay.mahapatra @timesgroup. com
Dhananjay Mahapatra, TNN, 3 February 2010, 02:48am IST
NEW DELHI: When a bullet coming from the other side of the border does not distinguish between a commissioned and non-commissioned officer in the Army, how can the government do so when it comes to grant of death-cum-retiremen t gratuity (DCRG), wondered the newly-constituted Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) headed by a retired Supreme Court judge.
In a major order that would assuage the long-standing grievance of the officers, both commissioned and non-commissioned, AFT principal Bench comprising chairperson Justice A K Mathur and member Lt Gen M L Naidu said this discrimination in payment of DCRG was violative of Article 14 (right to equality) guaranteed under the Constitution.
A petition filed by the Disabled War Veterans (India) through counsel Aishwarya Bhati had made two major grievances — one relating to the difference in payment of DCRG and the other regarding computation of pension for a disabled soldier.
Bhati had alleged that the government takes into account the minimum payscale in the rank of the disabled soldier to compute the war injury pension to him and had requested AFT to direct the Centre to consider taking into account the highest pay in the rank for the purpose.
AFT agreed on both counts with the counsel. On DCRG, it said once the short service commission officers and the permanent service commission officers fight on the border shoulder-to- shoulder, they formed the same class and no further distinction can be made.
"Once they form the same class and they are fighting shoulder-to- shoulder against the enemy and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in the payment of DCRG," the AFT said asking the government to take serious note of the anomaly and review the policy forthwith.
"We cannot give them benefit, but we can only request the government that this payment of DCRG on the basis of distinction between short service commission and regular service commission is highly discriminatory. We hope and trust that the government will remove this discrimination which is apparent on the face of it," it said.
Coming to computation of war injury pension, the AFT said the cause of injury which disabled a soldier and cut short his career was beyond the control of the personnel and such persons should be treated fairly by being given war injury pension on the basis of the highest pay in the rank.
"We feel strongly that it is a matter which requires serious consideration of the government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war disabled pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank," the AFT Bench said.
"The maximum scale of that rank should be considered for determining the amount of war injury pension," the AFT said disposing of the petition by the Disabled War Veterans.
dhananjay.mahapatra @timesgroup. com
AFT was required 20 years before...V Adm Barin Ghose..???
It has taken an AFT to accept something which the Service Hqs have been striving for since 5th CPC, namely Battle Casualty Awards should not differentiate between :PRC and SSC. Some how the Service HQs could not make the MOD see the raison de etre. Perhaps the Babus did not want to see the difference and kept on parrot wise repeating that SSC did not complete 15 years service and were hence not eligible for any pensionary award.
If only the AFT came about when proposed two decades ago, many of the ills facing the Armed Forces would have been sorted out. The Civil Services with the CAT has been comparitively hassle free.
.I would reccommend that serious thought be given to pushing OROP through AFT with a legal person instead of trying it with MOD
Regards
Vice Admiral Barin Ghose (Retired)
Head Pension Cell
Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
If only the AFT came about when proposed two decades ago, many of the ills facing the Armed Forces would have been sorted out. The Civil Services with the CAT has been comparitively hassle free.
.I would reccommend that serious thought be given to pushing OROP through AFT with a legal person instead of trying it with MOD
Regards
Vice Admiral Barin Ghose (Retired)
Head Pension Cell
Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
An interesting question..???
An interesting question with no answers.
Dear Friend
Last week Maj Gen Joshi called on me. He was an esteemed instructor during our Degree Course days, and EME officers would remember him as one of our finest engineers. Indeed, he spent most of his time with the DRDO. He was commissioned in Jun 1960 and was in the Eastern sector during the 1962 debacle. He has analyzed the event very systematically, and his study reveals the following :
Pt Nehru, the architect of modern India suffered a severe stroke of depression from which he never quite recovered. He died in May 1964 at the comparatively young age of 73.
VK Krishna Menon was removed from the post of Raksha Mantri for his incorrect assessment of the situation.
Gen Thapar, the COAS was sacked. The careers of Lt Gen Kaul and scores of other military officers took a "U" turn.
A few thousand soldiers died; many more were wounded and some were taken prisoners.
The psyche of the country received a severe blow. It was considered a 'National Shame'
The question he asked me was, "Who was the Defence Secretary? And what was the punishment meted out to him?"
I have asked several friends and also surfed the Internet but I am unable to find an answer. In all probability nothing was done to him, because he had no role in this!
Gen Joshi then took this discussion a step further. He observed that during the recent attack on Mumbai, dozens of soldiers and policemen have been killed. The whole nation is shaken. Mr Shivraj Patil has lost his prestigious job. The CM of Maharashtra has been axed and several heads in the government are likely to roll. Can some one tell us as to what action has been taken against the Union Home Secretary or the Chief Secretary of Maharashtra? (Thomas tells me that they will all be "promoted" soon though he does not know why).
Having spent many years in and around the South Block, I marvel at the way our government has been structured. The Civil Servants rule the roost. In terms of promotions and status they are ahead of every one else by miles. They are central in the Pay Commission and the Cabinet Secretary is involved in every major decision making process. Yet, when things go wrong, they wash their hands off so clean that one wonders how!
A slightly closer examination reveals the secret. I have figured it out this way:
They never do anything themselves. They always find some one else to be the head, and they know how to reduce him to be a 'figure head'. (In the Pay Commissions, they have a retired Judge). However they place themselves in a spot which has the maximum opportunity to influence matters.
After the event, they never face the Press or the Media. Their role is amorphous.
The senior amongst them rarely sign a letter or order. Our pension letter is signed by a Director, who is not directly recruited IAS officer. Only rarely do you find a paper signed by a Joint Secretary. Officers above that level do not sign any document.
They have a strong association. It protects the interests of its members dutifully and diligently.
So we have our Defence headquarters in which the postings, promotions, rewards and punishments of all senior officers are controlled by the civil servants; and they also have the final say in the process of procurement of weapons and eqpt, but they are not "responsible" if things go wrong! It is authority without responsibility. (For those who may not know, a lowly officer in the MoD can have a Deputy Chief posted out, but a Service Chief can not get even a Desk Officer moved)
When Gen Joshi left, I found myself perplexed. What sort of system have we evolved? And how has it survived all these years? It is a bit like a unit in which the clerks are running the unit and the CO is so dependent on the Head Clerk that he can not move without their help!
Can some one give a cogent answer to the questions raised by Gen Joshi?
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Dear Friend
Last week Maj Gen Joshi called on me. He was an esteemed instructor during our Degree Course days, and EME officers would remember him as one of our finest engineers. Indeed, he spent most of his time with the DRDO. He was commissioned in Jun 1960 and was in the Eastern sector during the 1962 debacle. He has analyzed the event very systematically, and his study reveals the following :
Pt Nehru, the architect of modern India suffered a severe stroke of depression from which he never quite recovered. He died in May 1964 at the comparatively young age of 73.
VK Krishna Menon was removed from the post of Raksha Mantri for his incorrect assessment of the situation.
Gen Thapar, the COAS was sacked. The careers of Lt Gen Kaul and scores of other military officers took a "U" turn.
A few thousand soldiers died; many more were wounded and some were taken prisoners.
The psyche of the country received a severe blow. It was considered a 'National Shame'
The question he asked me was, "Who was the Defence Secretary? And what was the punishment meted out to him?"
I have asked several friends and also surfed the Internet but I am unable to find an answer. In all probability nothing was done to him, because he had no role in this!
Gen Joshi then took this discussion a step further. He observed that during the recent attack on Mumbai, dozens of soldiers and policemen have been killed. The whole nation is shaken. Mr Shivraj Patil has lost his prestigious job. The CM of Maharashtra has been axed and several heads in the government are likely to roll. Can some one tell us as to what action has been taken against the Union Home Secretary or the Chief Secretary of Maharashtra? (Thomas tells me that they will all be "promoted" soon though he does not know why).
Having spent many years in and around the South Block, I marvel at the way our government has been structured. The Civil Servants rule the roost. In terms of promotions and status they are ahead of every one else by miles. They are central in the Pay Commission and the Cabinet Secretary is involved in every major decision making process. Yet, when things go wrong, they wash their hands off so clean that one wonders how!
A slightly closer examination reveals the secret. I have figured it out this way:
They never do anything themselves. They always find some one else to be the head, and they know how to reduce him to be a 'figure head'. (In the Pay Commissions, they have a retired Judge). However they place themselves in a spot which has the maximum opportunity to influence matters.
After the event, they never face the Press or the Media. Their role is amorphous.
The senior amongst them rarely sign a letter or order. Our pension letter is signed by a Director, who is not directly recruited IAS officer. Only rarely do you find a paper signed by a Joint Secretary. Officers above that level do not sign any document.
They have a strong association. It protects the interests of its members dutifully and diligently.
So we have our Defence headquarters in which the postings, promotions, rewards and punishments of all senior officers are controlled by the civil servants; and they also have the final say in the process of procurement of weapons and eqpt, but they are not "responsible" if things go wrong! It is authority without responsibility. (For those who may not know, a lowly officer in the MoD can have a Deputy Chief posted out, but a Service Chief can not get even a Desk Officer moved)
When Gen Joshi left, I found myself perplexed. What sort of system have we evolved? And how has it survived all these years? It is a bit like a unit in which the clerks are running the unit and the CO is so dependent on the Head Clerk that he can not move without their help!
Can some one give a cogent answer to the questions raised by Gen Joshi?
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Volunteer for ECHS...Lt Gen C sundra Rao
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM, sundara rao wrote:
I volunteer to help ECHS to the max extent possible. My particulars r given below
1. Name Lt Gen C.Sundara Rao (Retd)
2. Age 87 years (GREAT SIR – Chander Kamboj)
3. Date of commission/Seniority Aug 18, 41
4. Date of Retirement 25 Aug 1973
5. Last appointment held DEME (Now DGEME)
6. Place of residence CHENNAI
Lt Gen C.sundara Rao (Retd)
May Joy & Happiness govern your life.
(Thank you General Rao.
Dear ESM, we need many more volunteers for IESM ECHS Division – PLEASE HELP.
If a 87 year old veteran can volunteer why not you???
– Chander Kamboj)
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From: IESM- ECHS Div Hq
Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: ECHS
To: sundara rao
Cc: ks.raghavachari@gmail.com
Sir, Thanks very much for your kind offer to help in our effort to improve ECHS services. Please find attached herein, the Concept Paper #1 about our planning in this regard. At Chennai Regional Liaison Cell we have Gp Capt Raghavachari, to whom this mail is copied.
With your vast experience and maturity, we feel you can assist a lot, in firstly mobilizing more/ many ESM to join this drive of IESM ECHS Division. The volunteers can help by counselling/advising ESM so that the time the OC has to devote to queries, can probably be saved eg Which are the empanelled hospitals, what is the procedure for ...........etc.A sort of Help Desk, manned through the day, by volunteers devoting say 2 hrs per day/ as comfortable and a sort of rostering being done. Then there are issues of using ones good offices to motivate station Hq to clear bills / indents faster. ............or some volunteers substituting for absent staff at registration desk etc............these are being done at some stations and shortly we would be trying out at Noida polyclinic. Ofcourse, I am sure Gp Capt Raghavahari himself would draw upon your offer to add weightage to our efforts at the RLC.........but then the cutting edge is at Polyclinics..........the main problem we face is the availability of medicines ,,,,,,,,,,,, and an information system to inform the concerned veteran when the NA medicine arrives.........say through an SMS or a 'missed call- call back' system. Possibilities are immense, unlimited infact.
Do please feel free to call me/ mail me for any inputs you feel would benefit us. Thanks again.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
Skype: rakesh.prasad.chaturvedi
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From: hsingh1 . [mailto:hsingh1@sify.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 20:27
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT JOB BEING DONE BY ECHS DIVISION OF IESM - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 051/2010 - 30 JAN 2010 (H to Z)
Dear Chander,
Brigadier Abhay Bhargava has done commendable work and set a fine
example for all the veterans to follow.
My congratulations to Brigadier Abhay Bhargava.
Harbhajan Singh
Lt Gen
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From: Virendra Swarup [mailto:colonelviruswarup@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 01:21
To: brigabhay@gmail.com
Subject: Well done ...
Dear Brig Abhay,
Kindly accept my compliments for excellent work in helping out our ex-servicemen brethren; keep it up...
May God Bless You,
Take care,
Viru Swarup
www.colonelviruswarup.com
5116, East Butler Dr
Paradise Valley, AZ 85253, USA
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Air Vice Marshal A Abhayakumar (Retd.) No. 17 1st Main Road Domlur Layout, Bangalore - 560071 Tel:80-535-1677
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I volunteer to help ECHS to the max extent possible. My particulars r given below
1. Name Lt Gen C.Sundara Rao (Retd)
2. Age 87 years (GREAT SIR – Chander Kamboj)
3. Date of commission/Seniority Aug 18, 41
4. Date of Retirement 25 Aug 1973
5. Last appointment held DEME (Now DGEME)
6. Place of residence CHENNAI
Lt Gen C.sundara Rao (Retd)
May Joy & Happiness govern your life.
(Thank you General Rao.
Dear ESM, we need many more volunteers for IESM ECHS Division – PLEASE HELP.
If a 87 year old veteran can volunteer why not you???
– Chander Kamboj)
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From: IESM- ECHS Div Hq
Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: ECHS
To: sundara rao
Cc: ks.raghavachari@gmail.com
Sir, Thanks very much for your kind offer to help in our effort to improve ECHS services. Please find attached herein, the Concept Paper #1 about our planning in this regard. At Chennai Regional Liaison Cell we have Gp Capt Raghavachari, to whom this mail is copied.
With your vast experience and maturity, we feel you can assist a lot, in firstly mobilizing more/ many ESM to join this drive of IESM ECHS Division. The volunteers can help by counselling/advising ESM so that the time the OC has to devote to queries, can probably be saved eg Which are the empanelled hospitals, what is the procedure for ...........etc.A sort of Help Desk, manned through the day, by volunteers devoting say 2 hrs per day/ as comfortable and a sort of rostering being done. Then there are issues of using ones good offices to motivate station Hq to clear bills / indents faster. ............or some volunteers substituting for absent staff at registration desk etc............these are being done at some stations and shortly we would be trying out at Noida polyclinic. Ofcourse, I am sure Gp Capt Raghavahari himself would draw upon your offer to add weightage to our efforts at the RLC.........but then the cutting edge is at Polyclinics..........the main problem we face is the availability of medicines ,,,,,,,,,,,, and an information system to inform the concerned veteran when the NA medicine arrives.........say through an SMS or a 'missed call- call back' system. Possibilities are immense, unlimited infact.
Do please feel free to call me/ mail me for any inputs you feel would benefit us. Thanks again.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
Skype: rakesh.prasad.chaturvedi
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From: hsingh1 . [mailto:hsingh1@sify.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 20:27
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT JOB BEING DONE BY ECHS DIVISION OF IESM - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 051/2010 - 30 JAN 2010 (H to Z)
Dear Chander,
Brigadier Abhay Bhargava has done commendable work and set a fine
example for all the veterans to follow.
My congratulations to Brigadier Abhay Bhargava.
Harbhajan Singh
Lt Gen
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From: Virendra Swarup [mailto:colonelviruswarup@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 01:21
To: brigabhay@gmail.com
Subject: Well done ...
Dear Brig Abhay,
Kindly accept my compliments for excellent work in helping out our ex-servicemen brethren; keep it up...
May God Bless You,
Take care,
Viru Swarup
www.colonelviruswarup.com
5116, East Butler Dr
Paradise Valley, AZ 85253, USA
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Air Vice Marshal A Abhayakumar (Retd.) No. 17 1st Main Road Domlur Layout, Bangalore - 560071 Tel:80-535-1677
MEMBERSHIP FEE OF IESM by Gp Capt VK Gandhi
MEMBERSHIP FEE OF IESM
AND DONATIONS FOR IESM
Dear Veterans
IESM Governing body had been getting suggestions from veterans and conveners that there was a need to increase the number of members for IESM and the only way to achieve this was by reduction in membership fee for the veterans. In deference to the opinion from the veterans, IESM Governing Body reduced the membership fee for one month from 16 Dec 2009 to 15 Jan 2010 on a trial basis. As against the regular membership fee of Rs 500, Rs 200 and Rs 100 for officers, JCOs and OR, the fee was reduced to Rs 100, Rs 40 and Rs 10 respectively.
Approximately 3,500 members have been enrolled during this one month of the trial period. A minuscule number amongst them have given some donation. While we all certainly feel happy about the large number of IESM members enrolled during this short period but this has not generated the wave of membership which was expected. The collections have been so small on account of membership fee that there will be very little interest on this when put in fixed deposit. It is for the information of the members that as per Govt rules of societies we have to put this amount in a corpus fund and can only use the interest earned on it for meeting the expenditure. On the other hand the donations received are so small that they do not merit any mention. In any case the seemingly large number of new members so enrolled is also because of the concerted membership drive during this period by most Conveners. One wonders if membership drive with this zeal and spirit was undertaken with full membership fee, Would we have not made these members?
The Governing Body of IESM, in its meeting on Sunday, 31 Jan 10, examined the number of new members joined viz a viz the finances of the IESM.
Maj Gen PK Renjen, Treasurer IESM explained the financial problem arising out of this reduced membership fee on trial basis. Registration of one member costs over Rs 20 , which includes the cost of form, postage for forms to conveners, postage of forms back to IESM HQ, cost of printing membership card, postage for dispatching membership cards to members and the travel expenses of the conveners visiting villages for enrolling new members. He appreciated the effort put in by few dedicated conveners and veterans of spending their own money,without any charges to IESM, for enrolling new members. He explained that this system of free service by the conveners/veterans is an exception and can not be expected to be a rule. Besides the above expenses, considerable amount is deducted as service charges by the bank on the cheques that are deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank away from NCR. For example bank has levied a charge of Rs 16000/ in 2008-09 as transfer charges for the amounts deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank branches outside Delhi. We have taken it up with the bank to wave aside these charges but as on today IESM account has been deducted with this amount. If above pattern to enrol members and donations with reduced membership rates is continued, IESM will soon be left cash-less to meet routine expenses. If the collections cannot match the initial expenses of membership itself, how can be there any saving for future expenses?
The Treasurer further explained that as per existing Government rules, IESM has to meet its expenses from the donations received and the interest earned from the corpus in bank. The donations given by the veterans in Financial Year 2008-09 were sufficient for our expenses in that financial year and IESM expenses in the current financial year till December 09. He further explained that an effort was made to approach the corporate houses for the donations for IESM. But the corporate houses have explained that as per their policy the donations can be given for upliftment of villages, downtrodden and extremely poor people and that too on health, environment and education projects. IESM does not fall in any of these categories, hence the possibility of getting large donations from corporate houses is very remote. The process of approaching the corporate houses is still continuing. Hence IESM would have to find its own resources of meeting its expenditure through a large membership fee corpus (to generate handsome interest income) and by depending essentially on donations by the better off ESM - particularly those who are running their own businesses.
Hardly any donations have been received in the current financial year. With just two lakh rupees plus left in the kitty for expenses in the current financial year – the treasurer asked the other members in the meeting as to how would IESM meet the expenses for the forthcoming rally for depositing the medals on 14 March? Expected expenditure for the rally will be roughly Rs2.5 lakh. And the expected expenditure for the court case for OROP is likely to be in the range of Rs 5 lakh, which IESM should file, sooner than later.
Funds are also required for daily administrative work of IESM. IESM has not set up a separate office only because it wants to conserve meagre resources available with it. The work load of IESM is increasing manifold with setting up of three divisions to help the ESM, necessitating immediate renting of office space, suitably equipping and furnishing it and hiring clerical staff. It is inescapable to invest in office space to garner the confidence of the veterans.
Those of the Governing Body members who have been moving in the villages and felt the pulse of the veterans while addressing rallies, have indicated that the ORs feel that Rs 100/ as one time fee for life membership is reasonable and affordable and should not be reduced. We have also received similar feed back from the field that the one time fee of Rs 100 as life member is reasonable and affordable. However some members have also favoured the permanent reduction in membership fee.
Governing body deliberated on this issue at length and unanimously decided the following.
Welcome the new members in the IESM family.
Thank the conveners and veterans who have made extra effort to enrol new members at reduced membership fee. It is expected that the conveners and veterans would continue with same zeal and vigour to enrol more members in future also.
Membership fee has been restored to its original rate that is officers Rs 500/, JCOs Rs 200 and ORs Rs 100 with effect from 15 Jan 10. Membership fee for widows would be Nil. All new members should now be enrolled with this fee structure.
More effort would be put in to convince the corporate houses and business leaders for donations.
An appeal would be made to all veterans to donate generously to the IESM.
To meet the immediate needs of finance, the amount paid by a member be split into two as follows, and record it as such;
Contribution Rs Membership Fee Rs Donation Rs Officer 500 100 400
JCO 200 40 160
OR 100 20 80
APPEAL; ALL VETERANS ARE REQUESTED TO DONATE GENEROUSLY FOR IESM. ALL DONATIONS ENJOY EXEMPTION UNDER RULE 80G OF INCOME TAX RULES. A RECEIPT WILL BE ISSUED TO ALL DONORS
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
AND DONATIONS FOR IESM
Dear Veterans
IESM Governing body had been getting suggestions from veterans and conveners that there was a need to increase the number of members for IESM and the only way to achieve this was by reduction in membership fee for the veterans. In deference to the opinion from the veterans, IESM Governing Body reduced the membership fee for one month from 16 Dec 2009 to 15 Jan 2010 on a trial basis. As against the regular membership fee of Rs 500, Rs 200 and Rs 100 for officers, JCOs and OR, the fee was reduced to Rs 100, Rs 40 and Rs 10 respectively.
Approximately 3,500 members have been enrolled during this one month of the trial period. A minuscule number amongst them have given some donation. While we all certainly feel happy about the large number of IESM members enrolled during this short period but this has not generated the wave of membership which was expected. The collections have been so small on account of membership fee that there will be very little interest on this when put in fixed deposit. It is for the information of the members that as per Govt rules of societies we have to put this amount in a corpus fund and can only use the interest earned on it for meeting the expenditure. On the other hand the donations received are so small that they do not merit any mention. In any case the seemingly large number of new members so enrolled is also because of the concerted membership drive during this period by most Conveners. One wonders if membership drive with this zeal and spirit was undertaken with full membership fee, Would we have not made these members?
The Governing Body of IESM, in its meeting on Sunday, 31 Jan 10, examined the number of new members joined viz a viz the finances of the IESM.
Maj Gen PK Renjen, Treasurer IESM explained the financial problem arising out of this reduced membership fee on trial basis. Registration of one member costs over Rs 20 , which includes the cost of form, postage for forms to conveners, postage of forms back to IESM HQ, cost of printing membership card, postage for dispatching membership cards to members and the travel expenses of the conveners visiting villages for enrolling new members. He appreciated the effort put in by few dedicated conveners and veterans of spending their own money,without any charges to IESM, for enrolling new members. He explained that this system of free service by the conveners/veterans is an exception and can not be expected to be a rule. Besides the above expenses, considerable amount is deducted as service charges by the bank on the cheques that are deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank away from NCR. For example bank has levied a charge of Rs 16000/ in 2008-09 as transfer charges for the amounts deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank branches outside Delhi. We have taken it up with the bank to wave aside these charges but as on today IESM account has been deducted with this amount. If above pattern to enrol members and donations with reduced membership rates is continued, IESM will soon be left cash-less to meet routine expenses. If the collections cannot match the initial expenses of membership itself, how can be there any saving for future expenses?
The Treasurer further explained that as per existing Government rules, IESM has to meet its expenses from the donations received and the interest earned from the corpus in bank. The donations given by the veterans in Financial Year 2008-09 were sufficient for our expenses in that financial year and IESM expenses in the current financial year till December 09. He further explained that an effort was made to approach the corporate houses for the donations for IESM. But the corporate houses have explained that as per their policy the donations can be given for upliftment of villages, downtrodden and extremely poor people and that too on health, environment and education projects. IESM does not fall in any of these categories, hence the possibility of getting large donations from corporate houses is very remote. The process of approaching the corporate houses is still continuing. Hence IESM would have to find its own resources of meeting its expenditure through a large membership fee corpus (to generate handsome interest income) and by depending essentially on donations by the better off ESM - particularly those who are running their own businesses.
Hardly any donations have been received in the current financial year. With just two lakh rupees plus left in the kitty for expenses in the current financial year – the treasurer asked the other members in the meeting as to how would IESM meet the expenses for the forthcoming rally for depositing the medals on 14 March? Expected expenditure for the rally will be roughly Rs2.5 lakh. And the expected expenditure for the court case for OROP is likely to be in the range of Rs 5 lakh, which IESM should file, sooner than later.
Funds are also required for daily administrative work of IESM. IESM has not set up a separate office only because it wants to conserve meagre resources available with it. The work load of IESM is increasing manifold with setting up of three divisions to help the ESM, necessitating immediate renting of office space, suitably equipping and furnishing it and hiring clerical staff. It is inescapable to invest in office space to garner the confidence of the veterans.
Those of the Governing Body members who have been moving in the villages and felt the pulse of the veterans while addressing rallies, have indicated that the ORs feel that Rs 100/ as one time fee for life membership is reasonable and affordable and should not be reduced. We have also received similar feed back from the field that the one time fee of Rs 100 as life member is reasonable and affordable. However some members have also favoured the permanent reduction in membership fee.
Governing body deliberated on this issue at length and unanimously decided the following.
Welcome the new members in the IESM family.
Thank the conveners and veterans who have made extra effort to enrol new members at reduced membership fee. It is expected that the conveners and veterans would continue with same zeal and vigour to enrol more members in future also.
Membership fee has been restored to its original rate that is officers Rs 500/, JCOs Rs 200 and ORs Rs 100 with effect from 15 Jan 10. Membership fee for widows would be Nil. All new members should now be enrolled with this fee structure.
More effort would be put in to convince the corporate houses and business leaders for donations.
An appeal would be made to all veterans to donate generously to the IESM.
To meet the immediate needs of finance, the amount paid by a member be split into two as follows, and record it as such;
Contribution Rs Membership Fee Rs Donation Rs Officer 500 100 400
JCO 200 40 160
OR 100 20 80
APPEAL; ALL VETERANS ARE REQUESTED TO DONATE GENEROUSLY FOR IESM. ALL DONATIONS ENJOY EXEMPTION UNDER RULE 80G OF INCOME TAX RULES. A RECEIPT WILL BE ISSUED TO ALL DONORS
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
New Members from Doon Valley..Thanks to Lt col BM Thapa
DETAILS OF MEMBERS ENROLLED
BY Lt Col B M Thapa,Retd, Veteran,Doon Valley
UNDER REDUCED MEMBERSHIP DRIVE
Dear General,
Cordial regards.
The following 201 ESM have taken IESM life membership from Doon Valley during 15 Dec 09—15 Jan 10. Rs 8100.00 has been deposited in IESM HDFCA/C and their forms with bank slips have been dispatched to you for issuing IESM membership number and IESM Card please:-
Amount Deposited on 18 Dec 09, on 23.12.09 and on 16 Jan 10 in IESM A/C
1.V-204M LT COL J P NAUTIYAL RS 100.00
2. V-243L COL S C SHARMA RS 100.00
3. V-270P LT COL KR A K PUNDIR RS 100.00
4. 1C-24849N LT COL SHAMSHER SINGH THAPA RS 100.00
5.EC-50697 MAJOR VINOD KUMAR DABRAL RS 100.00
6 IC- 34918M LT COL U C KUTHARI RS 100.00
7. AC 5821 SQN LDR D K BALI RS 100.00
8. IC-19275H MAJ VINOD KUMAR BALI RS 100.00
9. IC-6249 COL B B UPRETI RS 100.00
10. IC-21745F LT COL AMAR SINGH BHANDARI RS 100.00
11. IC16142 COL RAMESH CHANDRA JOSHI RS100.00
12. IC-11578 LT COL B S CHHETRI RS100.00
13. IC-21698 LT COL R K CHAWLA RS 100.00
14. IC-19085 LT COL R K ARYA RS 100.00
15. IC-19103 LT COL DIWAN SINGH KHADKA RS 100.00
16. V-294Y LT COL MOHAN LAL SHARMA RS 100.00
17. IC-15111 LT COL K B SETHI RS 100.00
18. IC-18791 LT COL R P JAIRATH ,SM RS 100.00
SHAKHA NAWADA(Dehradun)
19. JC-94884N H/CAPT O B CHHETRI RS 100.00
20. JC-155510 H/CAPT TARA CHAND RS 100.00
21. JC-42794 H/CAPT SEWA SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
22. JC-201776 H/CAPT BRAHMA NAND RS 100.00
23. JC-224490 H/LT K B THAPA RS. 40.00
24. JC-617227 SUB DALIP SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
25. JC-617291 SUB R S THAPA RS 40.00
26. JC-138603 NB/SUB B B GURUNG RS 40.00
27. JC-5436917 NB/SUB SHER JANG THAPA RS 40.00
28. JC-8163 SUB TEK BAHADUR PUN RS 40.00
SHAKHA SHYAMPUR(Dehradun)
29. SUB MAJ KUNWAR SINGH BUTOLA RS 40.00
30. SUB MAJ DIL BAHADUR THAPA RS 40.00
31. H/CAPT BHAGWAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
32. H/LT HARI SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
33. SUB MAJ DHRUV SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
34. SUB MAJ GANESH BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
35. H/LT KISHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
36. N/SUB NARESH THAPA RS 40.00
37. CPOR CHET BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
38. N/SUB MAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
39. H/SM THAM BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
40. SUB CHHETRA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
41. SUB MAJ MAIRAM SINGH RS 40.00
42. NB SUB TEK BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
43. H/CAPT YUDBIR SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
44. H/NSUB SULTAN SINGH RANA RS 40.00
45.H/CAPT MOHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
46. H/SM MAN SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
47. SUB MAJ R C OLI RS 40.00
48. H/NSUB SANTOSH KM THAPA RS 40.00
49. H/CAPT KARNA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
50. NIRMAL KM GURUNG RS 40.00
51. H/CAPT GORE GURUNG RS 40.00
52. SUB SURENDER SINGH PANWAR RS 40.00
53. H/CAPT GOVIND SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
54. SUB RAJENDAR SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
55. SUB NAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
56. N/SUB JHALAK BDR GURUNG RS 10.00
57. SUB MAJ DALIP KUMAR RS. 40.00
58.SUB MAJ DAL BDR RS 40.00
59. H/LT PREM BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
60. SUB DINESH KUMAR RS 40.00
61. H/CAPT R B TANDON RS. 40.00
OR
62. HAV VASUDEV PANTHI RS 10.00
63. NK PURAN SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
64. RFN C S THAPA RS 10.00
65. NK DEVENDRA SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
67.CARPL LILA BAHADUR SINGH RS 40.00
68. HAV ASHOK KM GURUNG RS 40.00
69. NK BHUPENDAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
70. HAV KAMAN SINGH KHATRI RS 40.00
71. NK TIKAM SINGH JINA RS 40.00
72. HAV PREM SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
73. L/NK RAM BDR CHHETRI RS 40.00
74.Hav HARI PRASAD THAPA RS 10.00
75. Hav JANG BDR THAPA RS 10.00
76. HAV GAGAN SINGH THAKUR RS 10.00
77. NK SHER BAHADUR THAPA RS 10.00
78.HAV INDAR SINGH BISHT RS 10.00
79.NK SANJAY KUMAR GURUNG RS 10.00
80. HAV BADRI PRASAD RANA RS 10.00
81. RFN PREM JANG THAPA RS 10.00
82. NK PADAM BDR CHHETRI RS 10.00
83.HAV ARJUN SINGH OLI RS 10.00
84. RFN SURESH KUMAR RS 10.00
85. RFN GOPAL SINGH RS 10.00
Ser No
Rank
Name
Amount in Rs
86
LT COL
D B THAPA
100
87
LT COL
H S DEEPAK THAPA
100
88
MAJ
Y B THAPA
100
89
SEA MAN
M S RAWAT
10
90
LT COL
R S NEGI
100
91
SUB
B B GURUNG
40
92
SMT
DURGA DEVI W/O LATE
L/NK BAHADUR SINGH
10
93
NK
BISHNU BAHADUR GRUNG
10
94
HAV
I B BHANDARI
10
95
H/CAPT
H P RAI
100
96
RFN
TEJ BAHADUR SHRESHTRA
10
97
RFN
MAN BAHADUR THAPA
10
98
H/CAPT
Y B BHANDARI
100
99
NB SUB
NANDA BIR THAPA
40
100
H/CAPT
R L KHATRI
100
101
NK
R S BARTHWAL
10
102
H/CAPT
M S RAWAT
100
103
HAV
S S RAWAT
10
104
H/CAPT
M P JASOLA
100
105
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
106
L/NK
G S NEGI
10
107
HAV
B S KATWAL
10
108
L/S
G P CHANDOLA
10
109
HAV
B S BISHT
10
110
H/CAPT
P D BASONI
100
111
SUB
A M TIWARI
40
112
NK
A S NEGI
10
113
HAV
S S PANWAR
10
114
NK
D S NEGI
10
115
NB SUB
KANWAR SINGH
40
116
SUB
C S RAWAT
40
117
HAV
S S BISHT
10
118
NK
B S KATHURA
10
119
NB SUB
BPS KANDARI
40
120
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
121
SUB MAJ
L B CHHETRI
40
122
H/CAPT
G S RANA
100
123
NB SUB
G B CHHTRI
40
124
H/CAPT
D S CHAUHAN
100
125
SUB MAJ
D S NEGI
40
126
HAV
I S NEGI
10
127
SUB MAJ
B B MAL
40
128
NB SUB
D S MEHTA
40
129
H/CAPT
G S BISHT
100
130
RFN
M S TARIYAL
10
131
NB SUB
BACHAN SINGH
40
132
SUB MAJ
A S KANDARI
40
133
NB SUB
CHANDRA BAHADUR
40
134
RIS
HIRA SINGH
40
135
HAV
SOHAN LAL SHARMA
10
136
MRS
HIM MAYA W/O LATE NB SUB
HIRA SINGH THAPA
40
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 29 JAN 10
137
AIR CMDE
A K KHANNA
100
138
LT COL
G B GURUNG
100
139
CPOR(TEL0
SHYAM SINGH SHARMA
40
140
NB SUB
J P ADHIKARI
40
141
H/CAPT
GOPAL TAMANG
40
142
SUB MAJ
HET BAHADUR KARKI
40
143
H/CAPT
FAUDA SINGH THAPA
40
144
SUB
KUMAR THAPA
40
145
H/LIEUT
NIRMAL KUMAR THAPA
40
146
H/LIEUT
NARAIN SINGH NEGI
40
147
H/CAPT
JABAR SINGH GRUNG
40
148
RFN
MOTI BAHADUR THAPA
10
149
SEP
MOHAN SINGH RANA
10
150
NK
C B THAPA
10
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 01 FEB 10 JAN 10
151
MAJOR
B S NEGI
100
152
MRS
CHANDA DEVI W/O SUB
LAKHPATI SINGH
40
153
SUB MAJ
NATHI SINGH PUNDIR
40
154
SUB MAJ
RAJENDER MAL
40
155
HAV
B P SHARMA
10
156
HAV
SUNIL KUMAR SHARMA
10
157
NK
MAHINDER SINGH
10
158
HAV
BIKRAM SINGH SINDHWAL
10
159
NK
KANWAR SINGH NEGI
10
160
HAV
RAM KISHORE TEWARI
10
161
NK
MATWAR SINGH PUNDIR
10
162
HAV
BASANT LAL
10
163
NK
GIRBIR SINGH
10
164
NK
KANWAR SINGH
10
165
HAV
RAGHUBIR SINGH
10
166
HAV
JIT RAM
10
167
L/NK
SHIV SINGH NEGI
10
168
HAV
SHER JUNG BAHADUR MALL
10
169
NK
BUDH SINGH RAWAT
10
170
NK
DARSHAN SINGH PUNDIR
10
171
SMT
VANDANA DEVI W/O LATE HAV
AMAR DEV SAKLANI
10
172
SEP
RAI CHAND NEGI
10
173
HAV
HARDEEP SINGH
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR SHYAMPUR SHAKHA Dehradun
174
H/CAPT
SANT BAHADUR PUN
40
175
H/CAPT
SURENDRA KUMAR PRADHAN
40
176
NB SUB
YOGENDRA SINGH THAPA
40
177
RIS
DARWAN SINGH BISHT
40
178
RFN
HIM BAHADUR CHHETRI
10
179
HAV
GOPAL SINGH BISHT
10
180
GDS MAN
A S RANA
10
181
HAV
VISHNU KUMAR GURUNG
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
182
H/CAPT
LACHHIMAN SINGH GURUNG
40
183
H/CAPT
JEET SINGH KHATRI
40
184
H/NB SUB
THAMAN BAHADUR ADHIKARI
10
185
H/NB SUB
DEVENDRA SINGH KHATRI
10
186
SMT
VIDHYA THAPA W/O LATE
CHANDRA BAHADUR THAPA
10
187
SMT
BIMLA DEVI W/O L/NK ANAND
SINGH KHATRI
10
188
SMT
SITA KUMARI THAPA
1
W/O LATE NK TEK BDR THAPA
10
189
NK
AJAI KHATRI
10
190
RFN
GANESH SHARMA
10
191
HAV
VIRENDRA SINGH
10
192
HAV
R K SHERESHTA
10
193
NK
DAMBAR BAHADUR THAPA
10
194
NK
RAMESH SINGH NEGI
10
195
HAV
C S RAWAT
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
196
H/CAPT
OM PRAKASH KHATRI
40
197
H/CAPT
RAVINDRA SINGH KHATRI
40
198
SUB
RAMESH KHATRI
40
199
SUB
BIKRAM SINGH KHATRI
40
200
SUB
SURESH SINGH
40
201
H/SUB MAJ
SURAT SINGH
40
The suggested proforma by Brig C S Kamboj duly filled is also enclosed at Appx “A” herewith please. More ESM are keen to take membership under reduced membership drive as suggested by Col S S Rajan and others too.
Sd/xxxxx
(Lt Col B M Thapa, Retd)
Veteran
BY Lt Col B M Thapa,Retd, Veteran,Doon Valley
UNDER REDUCED MEMBERSHIP DRIVE
Dear General,
Cordial regards.
The following 201 ESM have taken IESM life membership from Doon Valley during 15 Dec 09—15 Jan 10. Rs 8100.00 has been deposited in IESM HDFCA/C and their forms with bank slips have been dispatched to you for issuing IESM membership number and IESM Card please:-
Amount Deposited on 18 Dec 09, on 23.12.09 and on 16 Jan 10 in IESM A/C
1.V-204M LT COL J P NAUTIYAL RS 100.00
2. V-243L COL S C SHARMA RS 100.00
3. V-270P LT COL KR A K PUNDIR RS 100.00
4. 1C-24849N LT COL SHAMSHER SINGH THAPA RS 100.00
5.EC-50697 MAJOR VINOD KUMAR DABRAL RS 100.00
6 IC- 34918M LT COL U C KUTHARI RS 100.00
7. AC 5821 SQN LDR D K BALI RS 100.00
8. IC-19275H MAJ VINOD KUMAR BALI RS 100.00
9. IC-6249 COL B B UPRETI RS 100.00
10. IC-21745F LT COL AMAR SINGH BHANDARI RS 100.00
11. IC16142 COL RAMESH CHANDRA JOSHI RS100.00
12. IC-11578 LT COL B S CHHETRI RS100.00
13. IC-21698 LT COL R K CHAWLA RS 100.00
14. IC-19085 LT COL R K ARYA RS 100.00
15. IC-19103 LT COL DIWAN SINGH KHADKA RS 100.00
16. V-294Y LT COL MOHAN LAL SHARMA RS 100.00
17. IC-15111 LT COL K B SETHI RS 100.00
18. IC-18791 LT COL R P JAIRATH ,SM RS 100.00
SHAKHA NAWADA(Dehradun)
19. JC-94884N H/CAPT O B CHHETRI RS 100.00
20. JC-155510 H/CAPT TARA CHAND RS 100.00
21. JC-42794 H/CAPT SEWA SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
22. JC-201776 H/CAPT BRAHMA NAND RS 100.00
23. JC-224490 H/LT K B THAPA RS. 40.00
24. JC-617227 SUB DALIP SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
25. JC-617291 SUB R S THAPA RS 40.00
26. JC-138603 NB/SUB B B GURUNG RS 40.00
27. JC-5436917 NB/SUB SHER JANG THAPA RS 40.00
28. JC-8163 SUB TEK BAHADUR PUN RS 40.00
SHAKHA SHYAMPUR(Dehradun)
29. SUB MAJ KUNWAR SINGH BUTOLA RS 40.00
30. SUB MAJ DIL BAHADUR THAPA RS 40.00
31. H/CAPT BHAGWAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
32. H/LT HARI SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
33. SUB MAJ DHRUV SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
34. SUB MAJ GANESH BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
35. H/LT KISHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
36. N/SUB NARESH THAPA RS 40.00
37. CPOR CHET BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
38. N/SUB MAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
39. H/SM THAM BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
40. SUB CHHETRA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
41. SUB MAJ MAIRAM SINGH RS 40.00
42. NB SUB TEK BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
43. H/CAPT YUDBIR SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
44. H/NSUB SULTAN SINGH RANA RS 40.00
45.H/CAPT MOHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
46. H/SM MAN SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
47. SUB MAJ R C OLI RS 40.00
48. H/NSUB SANTOSH KM THAPA RS 40.00
49. H/CAPT KARNA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
50. NIRMAL KM GURUNG RS 40.00
51. H/CAPT GORE GURUNG RS 40.00
52. SUB SURENDER SINGH PANWAR RS 40.00
53. H/CAPT GOVIND SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
54. SUB RAJENDAR SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
55. SUB NAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
56. N/SUB JHALAK BDR GURUNG RS 10.00
57. SUB MAJ DALIP KUMAR RS. 40.00
58.SUB MAJ DAL BDR RS 40.00
59. H/LT PREM BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
60. SUB DINESH KUMAR RS 40.00
61. H/CAPT R B TANDON RS. 40.00
OR
62. HAV VASUDEV PANTHI RS 10.00
63. NK PURAN SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
64. RFN C S THAPA RS 10.00
65. NK DEVENDRA SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
67.CARPL LILA BAHADUR SINGH RS 40.00
68. HAV ASHOK KM GURUNG RS 40.00
69. NK BHUPENDAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
70. HAV KAMAN SINGH KHATRI RS 40.00
71. NK TIKAM SINGH JINA RS 40.00
72. HAV PREM SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
73. L/NK RAM BDR CHHETRI RS 40.00
74.Hav HARI PRASAD THAPA RS 10.00
75. Hav JANG BDR THAPA RS 10.00
76. HAV GAGAN SINGH THAKUR RS 10.00
77. NK SHER BAHADUR THAPA RS 10.00
78.HAV INDAR SINGH BISHT RS 10.00
79.NK SANJAY KUMAR GURUNG RS 10.00
80. HAV BADRI PRASAD RANA RS 10.00
81. RFN PREM JANG THAPA RS 10.00
82. NK PADAM BDR CHHETRI RS 10.00
83.HAV ARJUN SINGH OLI RS 10.00
84. RFN SURESH KUMAR RS 10.00
85. RFN GOPAL SINGH RS 10.00
Ser No
Rank
Name
Amount in Rs
86
LT COL
D B THAPA
100
87
LT COL
H S DEEPAK THAPA
100
88
MAJ
Y B THAPA
100
89
SEA MAN
M S RAWAT
10
90
LT COL
R S NEGI
100
91
SUB
B B GURUNG
40
92
SMT
DURGA DEVI W/O LATE
L/NK BAHADUR SINGH
10
93
NK
BISHNU BAHADUR GRUNG
10
94
HAV
I B BHANDARI
10
95
H/CAPT
H P RAI
100
96
RFN
TEJ BAHADUR SHRESHTRA
10
97
RFN
MAN BAHADUR THAPA
10
98
H/CAPT
Y B BHANDARI
100
99
NB SUB
NANDA BIR THAPA
40
100
H/CAPT
R L KHATRI
100
101
NK
R S BARTHWAL
10
102
H/CAPT
M S RAWAT
100
103
HAV
S S RAWAT
10
104
H/CAPT
M P JASOLA
100
105
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
106
L/NK
G S NEGI
10
107
HAV
B S KATWAL
10
108
L/S
G P CHANDOLA
10
109
HAV
B S BISHT
10
110
H/CAPT
P D BASONI
100
111
SUB
A M TIWARI
40
112
NK
A S NEGI
10
113
HAV
S S PANWAR
10
114
NK
D S NEGI
10
115
NB SUB
KANWAR SINGH
40
116
SUB
C S RAWAT
40
117
HAV
S S BISHT
10
118
NK
B S KATHURA
10
119
NB SUB
BPS KANDARI
40
120
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
121
SUB MAJ
L B CHHETRI
40
122
H/CAPT
G S RANA
100
123
NB SUB
G B CHHTRI
40
124
H/CAPT
D S CHAUHAN
100
125
SUB MAJ
D S NEGI
40
126
HAV
I S NEGI
10
127
SUB MAJ
B B MAL
40
128
NB SUB
D S MEHTA
40
129
H/CAPT
G S BISHT
100
130
RFN
M S TARIYAL
10
131
NB SUB
BACHAN SINGH
40
132
SUB MAJ
A S KANDARI
40
133
NB SUB
CHANDRA BAHADUR
40
134
RIS
HIRA SINGH
40
135
HAV
SOHAN LAL SHARMA
10
136
MRS
HIM MAYA W/O LATE NB SUB
HIRA SINGH THAPA
40
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 29 JAN 10
137
AIR CMDE
A K KHANNA
100
138
LT COL
G B GURUNG
100
139
CPOR(TEL0
SHYAM SINGH SHARMA
40
140
NB SUB
J P ADHIKARI
40
141
H/CAPT
GOPAL TAMANG
40
142
SUB MAJ
HET BAHADUR KARKI
40
143
H/CAPT
FAUDA SINGH THAPA
40
144
SUB
KUMAR THAPA
40
145
H/LIEUT
NIRMAL KUMAR THAPA
40
146
H/LIEUT
NARAIN SINGH NEGI
40
147
H/CAPT
JABAR SINGH GRUNG
40
148
RFN
MOTI BAHADUR THAPA
10
149
SEP
MOHAN SINGH RANA
10
150
NK
C B THAPA
10
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 01 FEB 10 JAN 10
151
MAJOR
B S NEGI
100
152
MRS
CHANDA DEVI W/O SUB
LAKHPATI SINGH
40
153
SUB MAJ
NATHI SINGH PUNDIR
40
154
SUB MAJ
RAJENDER MAL
40
155
HAV
B P SHARMA
10
156
HAV
SUNIL KUMAR SHARMA
10
157
NK
MAHINDER SINGH
10
158
HAV
BIKRAM SINGH SINDHWAL
10
159
NK
KANWAR SINGH NEGI
10
160
HAV
RAM KISHORE TEWARI
10
161
NK
MATWAR SINGH PUNDIR
10
162
HAV
BASANT LAL
10
163
NK
GIRBIR SINGH
10
164
NK
KANWAR SINGH
10
165
HAV
RAGHUBIR SINGH
10
166
HAV
JIT RAM
10
167
L/NK
SHIV SINGH NEGI
10
168
HAV
SHER JUNG BAHADUR MALL
10
169
NK
BUDH SINGH RAWAT
10
170
NK
DARSHAN SINGH PUNDIR
10
171
SMT
VANDANA DEVI W/O LATE HAV
AMAR DEV SAKLANI
10
172
SEP
RAI CHAND NEGI
10
173
HAV
HARDEEP SINGH
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR SHYAMPUR SHAKHA Dehradun
174
H/CAPT
SANT BAHADUR PUN
40
175
H/CAPT
SURENDRA KUMAR PRADHAN
40
176
NB SUB
YOGENDRA SINGH THAPA
40
177
RIS
DARWAN SINGH BISHT
40
178
RFN
HIM BAHADUR CHHETRI
10
179
HAV
GOPAL SINGH BISHT
10
180
GDS MAN
A S RANA
10
181
HAV
VISHNU KUMAR GURUNG
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
182
H/CAPT
LACHHIMAN SINGH GURUNG
40
183
H/CAPT
JEET SINGH KHATRI
40
184
H/NB SUB
THAMAN BAHADUR ADHIKARI
10
185
H/NB SUB
DEVENDRA SINGH KHATRI
10
186
SMT
VIDHYA THAPA W/O LATE
CHANDRA BAHADUR THAPA
10
187
SMT
BIMLA DEVI W/O L/NK ANAND
SINGH KHATRI
10
188
SMT
SITA KUMARI THAPA
1
W/O LATE NK TEK BDR THAPA
10
189
NK
AJAI KHATRI
10
190
RFN
GANESH SHARMA
10
191
HAV
VIRENDRA SINGH
10
192
HAV
R K SHERESHTA
10
193
NK
DAMBAR BAHADUR THAPA
10
194
NK
RAMESH SINGH NEGI
10
195
HAV
C S RAWAT
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
196
H/CAPT
OM PRAKASH KHATRI
40
197
H/CAPT
RAVINDRA SINGH KHATRI
40
198
SUB
RAMESH KHATRI
40
199
SUB
BIKRAM SINGH KHATRI
40
200
SUB
SURESH SINGH
40
201
H/SUB MAJ
SURAT SINGH
40
The suggested proforma by Brig C S Kamboj duly filled is also enclosed at Appx “A” herewith please. More ESM are keen to take membership under reduced membership drive as suggested by Col S S Rajan and others too.
Sd/xxxxx
(Lt Col B M Thapa, Retd)
Veteran
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
POLITICAL DIRECTION, MILITARY LEADERSHIP AND MORALE by Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
POLITICAL DIRECTION, MILITARY LEADERSHIP
AND
MORALE
By
Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Preliminaries
Mr. Chairman, Distinguished guests, Ladies and Gentlemen, it is a great honour indeed and a great pleasure to be here this afternoon to participate in the prestigious 4th Netaji Subhash Memorial Lecture and share my ideas on a subject of great importance, not just for the Indian military but also for the nation, the subject being “Political Direction, Military Leadership and Morale”.
Since time is at a premium, let me plunge straight into it and first discuss the important aspect of Political Direction.
Political Direction
Ladies and gentlemen, in the early years of our fledgling democracy, Pandit Nehru and other Indian political leaders, barring exceptions like Netaji Subhash Chander Bose, looked at the military with suspicion and distrust.
Thereafter, commencing with the operations launched to save Kashmir in October 1947, to the various wars and conflicts fought to secure the nation, the military should have become the darling of the nation. It undoubtedly is for the common Indian, the Aam Aadmi, but the story is quite different where our governing class is concerned.
Our leaders have reduced the status of the military over the years. It is not just the warrant of precedence, but many important facets. Witness how the budget of the defence forces has been steadily declining, to an all time low of less than two per cent of the GDP. Modernization of all the three services is moving at a snails’ pace, if at all, and shortages of weapons, ammunition and equipment are steadily increasing. There is a grave shortage of officers in all the three services, but it is hurting the army the most, resulting in serious erosion of our capabilities.
Our political leadership has forgotten that it was this very Indian Military, which did yeomen service during the blood bath of partition, saving countless lives. Although time for consolidation was badly needed after Independence, there was none, as the army was operationally committed in Kashmir within two months of Independence. Thereafter, one war followed another and even during the no-war interludes, the army was committed on prolonged internal security tasks. The large numbers of police forces, whose numbers get enhanced every year, continue to be incapable or unwilling to handle internal challenges. Resultantly, the army has been in Nagaland and Manipur; Assam; and J&K for over 50, 30 and 20 years respectively! Despite all these constraints, the achievements of the defence forces are a tribute to the leadership, fighting spirit and patriotic fervour of all ranks.
In democracies the world over, the political leadership of the country makes national policy, as well as the national security strategy. This is done with the active participation of civil and military officials of the country. The Indian military understands this fully, but it seems neither the political leadership nor their civilian advisers understand the nuances of “civil control”.
It is a great pity and a matter of deep regret and concern that in our country the military has been deliberately kept out of the policy formulation loop and even after over six decades of loyal, patriotic and dedicated service to the nation, in both war and peace, it is still not trusted! Yes, I repeat - not trusted. Nothing else explains the reasons for its exclusion from policy formulation; the inability to evolve a viable and comprehensive structure for higher defence; the non-articulation of a national security strategy since Independence; the non-appointment of a CDS, accepted nearly a decade back; no worthwhile joint ness; the non-integration of the Ministry of Defence; and not the least, the muzzling of the three Chiefs, even when they speak on professional matters and say what needs to be said.
There could not be a more improper way of handling the security of the nation than this state of affairs. Let me reinforce what I am stating by only two examples, as time does not permit me to go into many others. Firstly, India is one of the few countries in the world that has no formalized national security strategy. In a statement made in Parliament in April 2006, i.e. nearly four years back, the defence ministry was to have issued one by December last year, but 2009 has also passed into history and we continue with our endless waiting! Secondly, despite over ten years of existence, the government continues to exclude senior military officers from the National Security Council, which is headed and staffed mainly by various types of bureaucrats. No wonder our security systems and formulations lack credibility and we fumble from one crisis to another.
Before I switch to the next topic, let me convey just two points to our opinion makers, some of whom are here. Firstly, do not mistrust your defence forces; they have served the nation with distinction and loyalty - they need to be respected and their counsel taken; otherwise the nation will lose out in its security-related concerns. Secondly, if the military continues to be treated with suspicion and disdain, let me be blunt and state that if it wants, it can assert itself and in a manner that may be neither palatable for the political leadership nor good for our democracy.
Military Leadership
Let me now shift to the second aspect, which I am required to cover in my talk. That is military leadership.
Leadership is the basic edifice of our defence forces and it is a perennial subject of discussion, instruction and introspection. It would be correct to say that the Indian military lives and breathes leadership.
Waging war today is a complex phenomenon, on account of high technology, the nature of modern war, new threats and challenges, human rights, transparency brought in by the media, globalization and the reality of nuclear weapons in the arsenal of our potential adversaries. Consequently, military leadership assumes even more importance.
In our army, Eighteenth Century authoritarian type of leadership has prevailed for centuries and continues to be practiced by many leaders. This must change, as both society and the battlefield milieu have changed. Increasingly, supportive, rather than authoritarian leaders, are needed in the military, as in other walks of life. Today’s leaders need to lead by the force of their personality and persuasive qualities and not by issuing fiats and crisp orders. The changed milieu demands that leaders address themselves to the followers' wants, needs, and other motivations, as well as to their own.
The majority of our soldiers prefer the guidance and direction of their leaders at practically every step. This is due to many factors, not the least being the societal background of our soldiers, our training systems, regimental upbringing and emphasis on attention to detail. In professional parlance it is known as “The Detailed Orders Command”, with its emphasis on centralized control. This has worked well for us in the past, but it needs to give way now to the “Directive Control” style of command, which is based on the delegation of authority, as the future battlefield is a mix of uncertainty and chaos, requiring decisions without looking back for fresh orders.
In recent years, there has been loose talk that while the young officers of the Indian military are excellent leaders, the senior leadership is not. This type of talk needs to be disabused. This has become a favourite theme of the media after the Kargil War of 1999, where our young officers had not only led from the front but did so with a great deal of bravery and panache. What is not known or appreciated, however, is that this was not a new phenomena; it has always been the norm in our military.
The Indian military could not have achieved victories and successes, as it has in both war and peace, if its senior officers were professionally inadequate or lacked any well known qualities of leadership. We have stringent norms for promotions and only the best get through successfully. Therefore, to say that young officers are uniformly good and the seniors are not, is a far too simplistic a statement. I do agree that amongst the nearly fifty thousand or so serving officers, there would be some whose motivation may have changed over the years, but the numbers are quite small.
Nonetheless, there are areas of concern, which need to be rectified and not pushed under the carpet. The major ones are:
Ø The apparent prevalence of a “zero error syndrome” from the top down.
Ø A sense of “insecurity”, perceived or otherwise, at the senior levels.
Ø Some leaders insulate themselves, resulting in the inability to “listen” or as we say in Hindi - “sunwai” nahin hoti.
Ø Sometimes there is a gap between percept and performance.
Ø In standards of selection of higher leadership, qualities such as integrity, moral strength, intellectual ability and honesty; self-discipline; and social as well as domestic probity or rectitude need to be placed much higher than professional competence.
The senior officers of the defence forces are the custodians of our value system. All ranks look up to them for setting an example. They have a unique role to play, not only in the development of their subordinates, but also to keep their units and formations in a highly motivated state.
Let me end this part of my presentation with a quote from our second Rashtrapati - Dr S Radhakrishnan, who had said that “The higher a man goes, the fewer are his rights and the more numerous his duties”. Our senior leaders need to remember this.
Morale
I now come to the third and last part of my presentation, dealing with morale. It was Napolean who had said that “Morale is to material as three to one”. High morale and motivation produce offensive spirit, which is essential for soldiers and officers alike.
The credo of our soldiers has just four simple aspects; these are:
Ø Firstly - “Namak, Naam Aur Nishan” - Fealty to one’s ‘Salt’, Name & Flag i.e. Nation, Army & Regiment.
Ø Secondly – “Izzat”- it is the concept of the soldier’s honour.
Ø Thirdly - “Zubaan” - the inviolability of the spoken word and dependability & trust between comrades.
Ø And Fourthly - “Dharam-Iman” - the soldiers duty & code of honour.
The actions of the officers of the Indian military are bound by the Chetwodian pledge:
“The Safety, Honour and Welfare of the country come first, always and every time.
The Honour, Welfare and Comfort of the men you command come next.
Your own ease, comfort and safety come last, always and every time”.
These are not merely words, but are adhered to by the officers and soldiers of the entire Indian Military – always and every time!!
The standing of soldiers in a country is dependent on the interplay of a number of dynamic factors like the quality of military leadership; equation with the political leadership; relationship with bureaucracy; and the image created by the media. I have already touched upon military leadership. Let me briefly touch on the relations with the political leadership and the bureaucracy.
Both the political leadership, as well as the bureaucracy of our country unfortunately lack compassion for the military. The important reasons are:-
Ø Firstly - The bulk of the political leadership and the bureaucracy do not have even the remotest connection with the Defence Services. In the history of independent India, no political leader or bureaucrat, except the odd one, has sent his progeny to the military. Therefore, they can neither relate to the military nor empathise with their lot.
Ø Secondly - Our political leadership is inadequately qualified and equipped about ‘matters military’ and security issues. They neither possess military knowledge nor display any desire to educate themselves. Many attempts in the past have met with a studied silence. Inadequacies of the political leadership result in their over dependence on the bureaucrats, who in turn also lack any in-depth knowledge.
Ø Thirdly - Our political leadership is highly uncomfortable in dealing with the military directly and prefers to let the bureaucracy do so. The military does not like this and hence there is a hiatus between two important organs of a democracy like ours. The loser is the nation.
Ø Fourthly - From the viewpoint of political leaders, soldiers, not being a worthwhile vote-bank, need not to be cultivated.
Ø Fifthly - The political leadership does not hesitate to tick off the top military leadership in public, not realizing the negative effect it has on the morale of the defence forces.
Ø Sixthly - The bureaucracy revels in one-upmanship and loses no chance to denigrate the military, through leaks to the media and/or exerting indirect pressure through their political bosses. They do have plenty of time to do so, if one wag is to be believed; he had stated that “Civil servants make the best husbands; they are not tired when they get home and they have read the newspapers already”.
Let me now briefly deal with the media-military relationship. For starters, the military is invariably in the media for the wrong reasons. The Indian media, in its bid to garner TRPs and maximum advertising revenue only believes in sensational stories. Harping on negative stories constantly, distorts the real image of the defence services and has a highly negative effect on the morale of the defence forces. Even when some positive stories are aired or printed, these have little impact, as the minds of the public have already been saturated with sensation and sleaze.
Fortunately, the public at large still holds the military in high esteem, but it does get influenced adversely by the deliberate attempts to downgrade soldiers and constant exposure by the media of the misdemeanours of a few persons, which are largely half-truths and presumptions.
The effect of low morale of the military translates into the weakening of the security of the country. The political leadership needs to realise that everything else being the same, the morale of the defence forces is the single most important factor that counts between victory and defeat.
The soldier’s dedication to duty, loyalty to the nation and willingness for the supreme sacrifice are driven less by material considerations and more by an overwhelming urge to earn the love and respect of their countrymen, their comrades and their regiments. A grateful nation's recognition of their contribution to national security acts as the strongest motivator. Unfortunately, our nation has not understood this aspect. If this situation persists and the soldiers are not cared for, the country will lose the moral right to expect them to die for its security.
If the government is indifferent, the civil society must act to assuage the feelings of hurt and neglect of the military. Most countries honour their serving soldiers and veterans by nominating a day and sometimes a week, where soldiers who had sacrificed their lives and limbs during wars and conflicts or served with honour, are felicitated by the highest leadership, as well as the citizenry. Their gallantry, tenacity, spirit of sacrifice, contributions to the security and sovereignty of the nation and their selfless spirit are formally lauded.
What do we do in our country, Sir? Nothing at all! Sixty years after Independence, we do not even have a national war memorial for our martyrs. We seem to have no time for such niceties of life. Why can we not declare 16 December, the day when our defence forces brought glory and the biggest victory to the nation in 1971, as the day for honouring our soldiers, both serving and those who have laid down their uniforms? The government should take the lead in this respect, but if it is unable or unwilling, the civil society must do so. If even the civil society throws up its hands, then perhaps the military veterans will have to do it, but what a shame it will be for a nation of over one billion souls!!
Conclusion
The Indian Defence forces have earned a formidable reputation of task accomplishment, usually against heavy odds. They will continue to fight the nation’s battles and wars, giving their best, but the nation must also support them to the maximum extent, meet their aspirations and restore their “izzat”, besides alleviating their concerns and misgivings.
India is now genuinely poised to shine. It cannot do so with a flawed higher defence organization, where the military is deliberately kept out of policy formulations; a media-tarnished military leadership; and a feeble military machine with little modernisation. The need today is for a synergistic and visionary national approach for the strong, purposeful and modern India where the soldier gets his due and the nation remains secure.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.--
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AND
MORALE
By
Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Preliminaries
Mr. Chairman, Distinguished guests, Ladies and Gentlemen, it is a great honour indeed and a great pleasure to be here this afternoon to participate in the prestigious 4th Netaji Subhash Memorial Lecture and share my ideas on a subject of great importance, not just for the Indian military but also for the nation, the subject being “Political Direction, Military Leadership and Morale”.
Since time is at a premium, let me plunge straight into it and first discuss the important aspect of Political Direction.
Political Direction
Ladies and gentlemen, in the early years of our fledgling democracy, Pandit Nehru and other Indian political leaders, barring exceptions like Netaji Subhash Chander Bose, looked at the military with suspicion and distrust.
Thereafter, commencing with the operations launched to save Kashmir in October 1947, to the various wars and conflicts fought to secure the nation, the military should have become the darling of the nation. It undoubtedly is for the common Indian, the Aam Aadmi, but the story is quite different where our governing class is concerned.
Our leaders have reduced the status of the military over the years. It is not just the warrant of precedence, but many important facets. Witness how the budget of the defence forces has been steadily declining, to an all time low of less than two per cent of the GDP. Modernization of all the three services is moving at a snails’ pace, if at all, and shortages of weapons, ammunition and equipment are steadily increasing. There is a grave shortage of officers in all the three services, but it is hurting the army the most, resulting in serious erosion of our capabilities.
Our political leadership has forgotten that it was this very Indian Military, which did yeomen service during the blood bath of partition, saving countless lives. Although time for consolidation was badly needed after Independence, there was none, as the army was operationally committed in Kashmir within two months of Independence. Thereafter, one war followed another and even during the no-war interludes, the army was committed on prolonged internal security tasks. The large numbers of police forces, whose numbers get enhanced every year, continue to be incapable or unwilling to handle internal challenges. Resultantly, the army has been in Nagaland and Manipur; Assam; and J&K for over 50, 30 and 20 years respectively! Despite all these constraints, the achievements of the defence forces are a tribute to the leadership, fighting spirit and patriotic fervour of all ranks.
In democracies the world over, the political leadership of the country makes national policy, as well as the national security strategy. This is done with the active participation of civil and military officials of the country. The Indian military understands this fully, but it seems neither the political leadership nor their civilian advisers understand the nuances of “civil control”.
It is a great pity and a matter of deep regret and concern that in our country the military has been deliberately kept out of the policy formulation loop and even after over six decades of loyal, patriotic and dedicated service to the nation, in both war and peace, it is still not trusted! Yes, I repeat - not trusted. Nothing else explains the reasons for its exclusion from policy formulation; the inability to evolve a viable and comprehensive structure for higher defence; the non-articulation of a national security strategy since Independence; the non-appointment of a CDS, accepted nearly a decade back; no worthwhile joint ness; the non-integration of the Ministry of Defence; and not the least, the muzzling of the three Chiefs, even when they speak on professional matters and say what needs to be said.
There could not be a more improper way of handling the security of the nation than this state of affairs. Let me reinforce what I am stating by only two examples, as time does not permit me to go into many others. Firstly, India is one of the few countries in the world that has no formalized national security strategy. In a statement made in Parliament in April 2006, i.e. nearly four years back, the defence ministry was to have issued one by December last year, but 2009 has also passed into history and we continue with our endless waiting! Secondly, despite over ten years of existence, the government continues to exclude senior military officers from the National Security Council, which is headed and staffed mainly by various types of bureaucrats. No wonder our security systems and formulations lack credibility and we fumble from one crisis to another.
Before I switch to the next topic, let me convey just two points to our opinion makers, some of whom are here. Firstly, do not mistrust your defence forces; they have served the nation with distinction and loyalty - they need to be respected and their counsel taken; otherwise the nation will lose out in its security-related concerns. Secondly, if the military continues to be treated with suspicion and disdain, let me be blunt and state that if it wants, it can assert itself and in a manner that may be neither palatable for the political leadership nor good for our democracy.
Military Leadership
Let me now shift to the second aspect, which I am required to cover in my talk. That is military leadership.
Leadership is the basic edifice of our defence forces and it is a perennial subject of discussion, instruction and introspection. It would be correct to say that the Indian military lives and breathes leadership.
Waging war today is a complex phenomenon, on account of high technology, the nature of modern war, new threats and challenges, human rights, transparency brought in by the media, globalization and the reality of nuclear weapons in the arsenal of our potential adversaries. Consequently, military leadership assumes even more importance.
In our army, Eighteenth Century authoritarian type of leadership has prevailed for centuries and continues to be practiced by many leaders. This must change, as both society and the battlefield milieu have changed. Increasingly, supportive, rather than authoritarian leaders, are needed in the military, as in other walks of life. Today’s leaders need to lead by the force of their personality and persuasive qualities and not by issuing fiats and crisp orders. The changed milieu demands that leaders address themselves to the followers' wants, needs, and other motivations, as well as to their own.
The majority of our soldiers prefer the guidance and direction of their leaders at practically every step. This is due to many factors, not the least being the societal background of our soldiers, our training systems, regimental upbringing and emphasis on attention to detail. In professional parlance it is known as “The Detailed Orders Command”, with its emphasis on centralized control. This has worked well for us in the past, but it needs to give way now to the “Directive Control” style of command, which is based on the delegation of authority, as the future battlefield is a mix of uncertainty and chaos, requiring decisions without looking back for fresh orders.
In recent years, there has been loose talk that while the young officers of the Indian military are excellent leaders, the senior leadership is not. This type of talk needs to be disabused. This has become a favourite theme of the media after the Kargil War of 1999, where our young officers had not only led from the front but did so with a great deal of bravery and panache. What is not known or appreciated, however, is that this was not a new phenomena; it has always been the norm in our military.
The Indian military could not have achieved victories and successes, as it has in both war and peace, if its senior officers were professionally inadequate or lacked any well known qualities of leadership. We have stringent norms for promotions and only the best get through successfully. Therefore, to say that young officers are uniformly good and the seniors are not, is a far too simplistic a statement. I do agree that amongst the nearly fifty thousand or so serving officers, there would be some whose motivation may have changed over the years, but the numbers are quite small.
Nonetheless, there are areas of concern, which need to be rectified and not pushed under the carpet. The major ones are:
Ø The apparent prevalence of a “zero error syndrome” from the top down.
Ø A sense of “insecurity”, perceived or otherwise, at the senior levels.
Ø Some leaders insulate themselves, resulting in the inability to “listen” or as we say in Hindi - “sunwai” nahin hoti.
Ø Sometimes there is a gap between percept and performance.
Ø In standards of selection of higher leadership, qualities such as integrity, moral strength, intellectual ability and honesty; self-discipline; and social as well as domestic probity or rectitude need to be placed much higher than professional competence.
The senior officers of the defence forces are the custodians of our value system. All ranks look up to them for setting an example. They have a unique role to play, not only in the development of their subordinates, but also to keep their units and formations in a highly motivated state.
Let me end this part of my presentation with a quote from our second Rashtrapati - Dr S Radhakrishnan, who had said that “The higher a man goes, the fewer are his rights and the more numerous his duties”. Our senior leaders need to remember this.
Morale
I now come to the third and last part of my presentation, dealing with morale. It was Napolean who had said that “Morale is to material as three to one”. High morale and motivation produce offensive spirit, which is essential for soldiers and officers alike.
The credo of our soldiers has just four simple aspects; these are:
Ø Firstly - “Namak, Naam Aur Nishan” - Fealty to one’s ‘Salt’, Name & Flag i.e. Nation, Army & Regiment.
Ø Secondly – “Izzat”- it is the concept of the soldier’s honour.
Ø Thirdly - “Zubaan” - the inviolability of the spoken word and dependability & trust between comrades.
Ø And Fourthly - “Dharam-Iman” - the soldiers duty & code of honour.
The actions of the officers of the Indian military are bound by the Chetwodian pledge:
“The Safety, Honour and Welfare of the country come first, always and every time.
The Honour, Welfare and Comfort of the men you command come next.
Your own ease, comfort and safety come last, always and every time”.
These are not merely words, but are adhered to by the officers and soldiers of the entire Indian Military – always and every time!!
The standing of soldiers in a country is dependent on the interplay of a number of dynamic factors like the quality of military leadership; equation with the political leadership; relationship with bureaucracy; and the image created by the media. I have already touched upon military leadership. Let me briefly touch on the relations with the political leadership and the bureaucracy.
Both the political leadership, as well as the bureaucracy of our country unfortunately lack compassion for the military. The important reasons are:-
Ø Firstly - The bulk of the political leadership and the bureaucracy do not have even the remotest connection with the Defence Services. In the history of independent India, no political leader or bureaucrat, except the odd one, has sent his progeny to the military. Therefore, they can neither relate to the military nor empathise with their lot.
Ø Secondly - Our political leadership is inadequately qualified and equipped about ‘matters military’ and security issues. They neither possess military knowledge nor display any desire to educate themselves. Many attempts in the past have met with a studied silence. Inadequacies of the political leadership result in their over dependence on the bureaucrats, who in turn also lack any in-depth knowledge.
Ø Thirdly - Our political leadership is highly uncomfortable in dealing with the military directly and prefers to let the bureaucracy do so. The military does not like this and hence there is a hiatus between two important organs of a democracy like ours. The loser is the nation.
Ø Fourthly - From the viewpoint of political leaders, soldiers, not being a worthwhile vote-bank, need not to be cultivated.
Ø Fifthly - The political leadership does not hesitate to tick off the top military leadership in public, not realizing the negative effect it has on the morale of the defence forces.
Ø Sixthly - The bureaucracy revels in one-upmanship and loses no chance to denigrate the military, through leaks to the media and/or exerting indirect pressure through their political bosses. They do have plenty of time to do so, if one wag is to be believed; he had stated that “Civil servants make the best husbands; they are not tired when they get home and they have read the newspapers already”.
Let me now briefly deal with the media-military relationship. For starters, the military is invariably in the media for the wrong reasons. The Indian media, in its bid to garner TRPs and maximum advertising revenue only believes in sensational stories. Harping on negative stories constantly, distorts the real image of the defence services and has a highly negative effect on the morale of the defence forces. Even when some positive stories are aired or printed, these have little impact, as the minds of the public have already been saturated with sensation and sleaze.
Fortunately, the public at large still holds the military in high esteem, but it does get influenced adversely by the deliberate attempts to downgrade soldiers and constant exposure by the media of the misdemeanours of a few persons, which are largely half-truths and presumptions.
The effect of low morale of the military translates into the weakening of the security of the country. The political leadership needs to realise that everything else being the same, the morale of the defence forces is the single most important factor that counts between victory and defeat.
The soldier’s dedication to duty, loyalty to the nation and willingness for the supreme sacrifice are driven less by material considerations and more by an overwhelming urge to earn the love and respect of their countrymen, their comrades and their regiments. A grateful nation's recognition of their contribution to national security acts as the strongest motivator. Unfortunately, our nation has not understood this aspect. If this situation persists and the soldiers are not cared for, the country will lose the moral right to expect them to die for its security.
If the government is indifferent, the civil society must act to assuage the feelings of hurt and neglect of the military. Most countries honour their serving soldiers and veterans by nominating a day and sometimes a week, where soldiers who had sacrificed their lives and limbs during wars and conflicts or served with honour, are felicitated by the highest leadership, as well as the citizenry. Their gallantry, tenacity, spirit of sacrifice, contributions to the security and sovereignty of the nation and their selfless spirit are formally lauded.
What do we do in our country, Sir? Nothing at all! Sixty years after Independence, we do not even have a national war memorial for our martyrs. We seem to have no time for such niceties of life. Why can we not declare 16 December, the day when our defence forces brought glory and the biggest victory to the nation in 1971, as the day for honouring our soldiers, both serving and those who have laid down their uniforms? The government should take the lead in this respect, but if it is unable or unwilling, the civil society must do so. If even the civil society throws up its hands, then perhaps the military veterans will have to do it, but what a shame it will be for a nation of over one billion souls!!
Conclusion
The Indian Defence forces have earned a formidable reputation of task accomplishment, usually against heavy odds. They will continue to fight the nation’s battles and wars, giving their best, but the nation must also support them to the maximum extent, meet their aspirations and restore their “izzat”, besides alleviating their concerns and misgivings.
India is now genuinely poised to shine. It cannot do so with a flawed higher defence organization, where the military is deliberately kept out of policy formulations; a media-tarnished military leadership; and a feeble military machine with little modernisation. The need today is for a synergistic and visionary national approach for the strong, purposeful and modern India where the soldier gets his due and the nation remains secure.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.--
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FURORE ON THE ARMY DOCTRINAL DEBATE
From: Gagandeep Bakhshi [mailto:gagandeep.bakshi@yahoo.com]
Sent: 26 January 2010 13:39
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Fw: Fwd of article
My Dear kamboj
Some days back there was an uproar over the issue of the Indian Army revising its doctrine.Very uncharitable comments were made in the media, including some upbraiding the Chief for speaking on this subject.To serve their purpose Military doctrines must be declaratory and well articulated in the open domain. Only then can these serve to deter! Enclosed is a copy of my article on this subject which is being published in the magazine"Purple Beret". I would be grateful if you could circulate it on your site.
Regards,
Maj Gen G D Bakshi
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FURORE ON THE ARMY DOCTRINAL DEBATE
By
Maj Gen G D Bakshi SM, VSM (retd)
Armed forces the world over routinely update their doctrines to keep pace with the accelerating pace of change in the global scenario and the even faster rate of change in military technology. A failure to do so would be dangerous and irresponsible. Doctrines are therefore usually revised every four to five years. That is precisely the exercise that the Indian Army is engaged in today. The current version of the Army Doctrine was released on 22Oct2004 and is therefore over five years old. The time is right for a wide ranging review of this doctrine.
It was therefore quite amazing to see the unseemly furore that this very routine exercise generated in Pakistan. It was even more surprising to hear the very defensive reactions in our media to the Pakistani uproar. One highly respected civilian analyst chided the Army Chief to keep his views on doctrine personal! The levels of irrationality in the rapidly failing state of Pakistan are increasingly becoming a cause for concern. Despite the fact that it has just been rescued from massive economic collapse and faces systemic failure, it behaves like a self- anointed Islamic Caliphate and a self confessed superpower. It treats Afghanistan as its exclusive sphere of influence ( a virtual colony). It demands that India not be permitted even to provide economic aid to the long suffering people of Afghanistan nor have any diplomatic representation or consular access in that country. It now demands that the Indian Army can not be permitted to carry out a routine update of its own doctrine for fear of annoying the Caliphs in Pakistan. The even more surprising aspect however is that some well meaning civilian analysts and votaries of peace at any cost have joined the Pakistani chorus to chide the Indian Army and pillory its Chief for trying to update their doctrine. As per them,the Indian Army cannot talk publicly of its doctrine. This just highlights the abysmal levels of ignorance about matters military in this country. Military Doctrines are almost always supposed to be declaratory doctrines. They are required to be publicly articulated so that they send an appropriate message to likely adversaries to deter them from adventurist actions. India has been confronted with a painful doctrinal dilemma. How should we respond to Pakistan’s sub conventional assault, first in J&K and now in all the major cities across the nation? How do we deal with what Chris Gagne calls the Stability-Instability Paradox, wherein stability at the nuclear level has bred high levels of instability at the sub conventional level? Mumbai was the proverbial last straw. Is the Indian population doomed to suffer at the hands of crazed Jihadis forever? For over thirty years India has surrendered the strategic and tactical initiative to Pakistan, and has fought a purely reactive and defensive war on its own soil. Will this continue forever because South Asia has gone nuclear? Or is there space for a Limited Conventional War below the Spectral ends of Nuclear War and Sub conventional Assaults?
Limited War The New Indian Doctrine must provide answers to these key issues. It must define the kind of war the Indian army must equip and train to fight. In essence the Army Doctrine must answer the seminal questions about the viability and form of Limited Conventional War against a Nuclear Backdrop. The Chinese Doctrine for Limited (or Local) Wars envisages very high levels of the use of military force. It places the onus of going nuclear squarely on the adversary. Can India paint itself into an impotent corner because of Pakistan’s overhyped nuclear threat (which is not credible except in a national emergency where Pakistan’s very survival is at stake). Even US Defense Secretary Robert Gates recognised candidly that India had exercised amazing level of restraint after Mumbai. He conceded that India cannot be expected to do the same, if there is another Mumbai-like mayhem.
Insurgency in the Heartland All of India’s insurgencies/terrorist movements were in Rimland/Border provinces so far (North East, Punjab, J&K). The new form of tribal insurgency has now broken out in the heartland – in Central and Peninsular India in the form of Left Wing Extremism (LWE). Jihadi Terror is now striking major cities deep in the interiors. The Army does not wish to be drawn far away from the borders it is tasked to defend. What if these Low Intensity Conflicts escalate? Can the Army stay out forever? The Rashtriya Rifles – the Internal Security Component of the Army will have to be involved. There are major shifts in Doctrine which will have to be discussed and debated. Only then can a viable doctrine be defined. Doctrines (for the less informed civilian friends) are not secret documents. They are declaratory documents designed to deter. For that they have to be communicated and the strength of resolve to carry them out, clearly articulated. India will have to field dominant war fighting capabilities in South Asia if it wishes to be left in peace by erratic neighbours that are developing delusions of grandeur even as they slip into collapse mode.
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Sent: 26 January 2010 13:39
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Fw: Fwd of article
My Dear kamboj
Some days back there was an uproar over the issue of the Indian Army revising its doctrine.Very uncharitable comments were made in the media, including some upbraiding the Chief for speaking on this subject.To serve their purpose Military doctrines must be declaratory and well articulated in the open domain. Only then can these serve to deter! Enclosed is a copy of my article on this subject which is being published in the magazine"Purple Beret". I would be grateful if you could circulate it on your site.
Regards,
Maj Gen G D Bakshi
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FURORE ON THE ARMY DOCTRINAL DEBATE
By
Maj Gen G D Bakshi SM, VSM (retd)
Armed forces the world over routinely update their doctrines to keep pace with the accelerating pace of change in the global scenario and the even faster rate of change in military technology. A failure to do so would be dangerous and irresponsible. Doctrines are therefore usually revised every four to five years. That is precisely the exercise that the Indian Army is engaged in today. The current version of the Army Doctrine was released on 22Oct2004 and is therefore over five years old. The time is right for a wide ranging review of this doctrine.
It was therefore quite amazing to see the unseemly furore that this very routine exercise generated in Pakistan. It was even more surprising to hear the very defensive reactions in our media to the Pakistani uproar. One highly respected civilian analyst chided the Army Chief to keep his views on doctrine personal! The levels of irrationality in the rapidly failing state of Pakistan are increasingly becoming a cause for concern. Despite the fact that it has just been rescued from massive economic collapse and faces systemic failure, it behaves like a self- anointed Islamic Caliphate and a self confessed superpower. It treats Afghanistan as its exclusive sphere of influence ( a virtual colony). It demands that India not be permitted even to provide economic aid to the long suffering people of Afghanistan nor have any diplomatic representation or consular access in that country. It now demands that the Indian Army can not be permitted to carry out a routine update of its own doctrine for fear of annoying the Caliphs in Pakistan. The even more surprising aspect however is that some well meaning civilian analysts and votaries of peace at any cost have joined the Pakistani chorus to chide the Indian Army and pillory its Chief for trying to update their doctrine. As per them,the Indian Army cannot talk publicly of its doctrine. This just highlights the abysmal levels of ignorance about matters military in this country. Military Doctrines are almost always supposed to be declaratory doctrines. They are required to be publicly articulated so that they send an appropriate message to likely adversaries to deter them from adventurist actions. India has been confronted with a painful doctrinal dilemma. How should we respond to Pakistan’s sub conventional assault, first in J&K and now in all the major cities across the nation? How do we deal with what Chris Gagne calls the Stability-Instability Paradox, wherein stability at the nuclear level has bred high levels of instability at the sub conventional level? Mumbai was the proverbial last straw. Is the Indian population doomed to suffer at the hands of crazed Jihadis forever? For over thirty years India has surrendered the strategic and tactical initiative to Pakistan, and has fought a purely reactive and defensive war on its own soil. Will this continue forever because South Asia has gone nuclear? Or is there space for a Limited Conventional War below the Spectral ends of Nuclear War and Sub conventional Assaults?
Limited War The New Indian Doctrine must provide answers to these key issues. It must define the kind of war the Indian army must equip and train to fight. In essence the Army Doctrine must answer the seminal questions about the viability and form of Limited Conventional War against a Nuclear Backdrop. The Chinese Doctrine for Limited (or Local) Wars envisages very high levels of the use of military force. It places the onus of going nuclear squarely on the adversary. Can India paint itself into an impotent corner because of Pakistan’s overhyped nuclear threat (which is not credible except in a national emergency where Pakistan’s very survival is at stake). Even US Defense Secretary Robert Gates recognised candidly that India had exercised amazing level of restraint after Mumbai. He conceded that India cannot be expected to do the same, if there is another Mumbai-like mayhem.
Insurgency in the Heartland All of India’s insurgencies/terrorist movements were in Rimland/Border provinces so far (North East, Punjab, J&K). The new form of tribal insurgency has now broken out in the heartland – in Central and Peninsular India in the form of Left Wing Extremism (LWE). Jihadi Terror is now striking major cities deep in the interiors. The Army does not wish to be drawn far away from the borders it is tasked to defend. What if these Low Intensity Conflicts escalate? Can the Army stay out forever? The Rashtriya Rifles – the Internal Security Component of the Army will have to be involved. There are major shifts in Doctrine which will have to be discussed and debated. Only then can a viable doctrine be defined. Doctrines (for the less informed civilian friends) are not secret documents. They are declaratory documents designed to deter. For that they have to be communicated and the strength of resolve to carry them out, clearly articulated. India will have to field dominant war fighting capabilities in South Asia if it wishes to be left in peace by erratic neighbours that are developing delusions of grandeur even as they slip into collapse mode.
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It is High Time We Unleash India from Rudderless and Confused Sociailism
From: Prem Sabhlok
Subject: It is High Time We Unleash India from Rudderless and Confused Sociailism
To: psabhlok@hotmail.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 9:50 PM
Eternal Vigilance is the Price of Liberty.
Dear All,
Dr. Sanjeev Sabhlok Ph.D is my son. A record holder of Panjab University in BSC (Hons) and amongst the toppers of IAS of 1982 batch. After getting convinced that Political leaders/bosses and most of the bureaucrats are not keen to attain Freedom and Swaraj (self rule) contemplated In amendment number 73 and 74 to the Constitution of India and want to perpetuate corrupt practices caused by rudderless and confused Nehruvian Socialism, he finally resigned in consultation with me when he was Secretary and Commissioner after rendering 18 years service in I.A.S. He has written a book entitled “Breaking Free of Nehru- Let' Us Unleash India”. The book has reached Oxford University Press bookstores.
The pre review is available for online reading on Website http://www.sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/breakingfree.html
He is convinced that India badly and urgently needs reforms in its political and bureaucratic systems. He is also trying hard to bring together at least 1500 dedicated, sincere and honest Indians who believe in world’s best democratic systems and policy for India to contest future elections. Kindly see the Website http://www.freedom.sabhlokcity.com
Kindly feel free to give your remarks, comments, views for or against Sanjeev’s perceptions and suggestions in that book. Kindly also consider joining his group which is called Freedom Team of India.
His e-mail is
To create awareness about reforms and grass root democracy (swaraj) in India, kindly forward this e-mail to millions of vigilant citizens of India
We are badly struck up with independence with top down anarchy/oligarchy which we wrongly call as democracy. We are not moving at all towards attaining Freedom, Swaraj and bottom up democracy for which our leaders worked hard and attained independence- prelude to freedom.
Independent countries are likely to split like erstwhile USSR, Pakistan into Bangladesh and remaining part of Pakistan etc Countriess with Freedom get stronger and secular. Independent countries tend to become non secular, fanatic and rudderless involving even Military rule.
Now danger is looming large WDR 2009 tells us that we are nearing a Failed State. WDR was giving this signal for the last about a few years but this year it is Yellow signal just short of Red. Time to think Globally and Act locally. World Best Models are available. We have adopted a ruinous Model taking us to a failed State. WDR has no enmity for India. It is only cautioning us.
With regards,
P.K.Sabhlok
Subject: It is High Time We Unleash India from Rudderless and Confused Sociailism
To: psabhlok@hotmail.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 9:50 PM
Eternal Vigilance is the Price of Liberty.
Dear All,
Dr. Sanjeev Sabhlok Ph.D is my son. A record holder of Panjab University in BSC (Hons) and amongst the toppers of IAS of 1982 batch. After getting convinced that Political leaders/bosses and most of the bureaucrats are not keen to attain Freedom and Swaraj (self rule) contemplated In amendment number 73 and 74 to the Constitution of India and want to perpetuate corrupt practices caused by rudderless and confused Nehruvian Socialism, he finally resigned in consultation with me when he was Secretary and Commissioner after rendering 18 years service in I.A.S. He has written a book entitled “Breaking Free of Nehru- Let' Us Unleash India”. The book has reached Oxford University Press bookstores.
The pre review is available for online reading on Website http://www.sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/breakingfree.html
He is convinced that India badly and urgently needs reforms in its political and bureaucratic systems. He is also trying hard to bring together at least 1500 dedicated, sincere and honest Indians who believe in world’s best democratic systems and policy for India to contest future elections. Kindly see the Website http://www.freedom.sabhlokcity.com
Kindly feel free to give your remarks, comments, views for or against Sanjeev’s perceptions and suggestions in that book. Kindly also consider joining his group which is called Freedom Team of India.
His e-mail is
To create awareness about reforms and grass root democracy (swaraj) in India, kindly forward this e-mail to millions of vigilant citizens of India
We are badly struck up with independence with top down anarchy/oligarchy which we wrongly call as democracy. We are not moving at all towards attaining Freedom, Swaraj and bottom up democracy for which our leaders worked hard and attained independence- prelude to freedom.
Independent countries are likely to split like erstwhile USSR, Pakistan into Bangladesh and remaining part of Pakistan etc Countriess with Freedom get stronger and secular. Independent countries tend to become non secular, fanatic and rudderless involving even Military rule.
Now danger is looming large WDR 2009 tells us that we are nearing a Failed State. WDR was giving this signal for the last about a few years but this year it is Yellow signal just short of Red. Time to think Globally and Act locally. World Best Models are available. We have adopted a ruinous Model taking us to a failed State. WDR has no enmity for India. It is only cautioning us.
With regards,
P.K.Sabhlok
ELECTIONS ALL INDIA DEFENCE BROTHERHOOD AT MOHALI : 27 JAN 2010
From: Exservicemen Joint Action Front Sanjha Morcha sanjhamorcha2009@gmail.com
Sent: 27 January 2010 21:06
To: iaf_jagdip@yahoo.co.in
Subject: ELECTIONS ALL INDIA DEFENCE BROTHERHOOD AT MOHALI : 27 JAN 2010
Dear Veterans,
Brig Harwant Singh ( Retd) was unanimously elected as the President of All India Defence Brotherhood (AIDB) in the presence of approx 70 members.
Lt Col AS Binder outgoing President was elevated to the post of Patron. The House meeting was conducted by the Gen Secy of AIDB Major SS Dhillon, who also happens to be Chairman of EX-Servicemen Joint Action Front ( Sanjha Morcha).
The Outgoing President Lt Col AS Binder THANKED all, for the support he received from all members in his thank giving speech. Brig Harwant Singh who is also the founder member of AIDB reassured the veteran member that he will carry everyone along as a team. He also reminded the members regarding postponement of Date for depositing the medals with the President as 14 Feb 2010. He requested all to come forward and join hands to win the battle of OROP.
Brig Kiran Krishan SM ( Retd) also addressed the members and introduced New members to all
Col RS Boparai, Vice President AIDB and President of Exservicemen Joint Action Front(Sanjha Morcha ), briefly touched upon the positive role played by AIDB in taking part in membership drive and collection of medals for IESM. He assured full support to any NGO and National party who support the long waiting demand of Ex-servicemen for OROP. He also apprised the members regarding the role of Sanjha Morcha, how its birth took place after fallout of internal fight among the core committee members of IESM at Delhi, who are now fighting Legal Battle in Courts among themselves. Sanjha Morcha will fight for the cause of Exservicemen. All ESM of Punjab are with Sanjha Morcha and will support the fight for the cause of OROP to logical conclusion without looking for any Name or credit.
FOR details & DEFENCE RELATED DAILY NEWS OPEN SANJHA MORCHA BLOG : http:/sanjhamorcha2009.blogspot.com
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Sent: 27 January 2010 21:06
To: iaf_jagdip@yahoo.co.in
Subject: ELECTIONS ALL INDIA DEFENCE BROTHERHOOD AT MOHALI : 27 JAN 2010
Dear Veterans,
Brig Harwant Singh ( Retd) was unanimously elected as the President of All India Defence Brotherhood (AIDB) in the presence of approx 70 members.
Lt Col AS Binder outgoing President was elevated to the post of Patron. The House meeting was conducted by the Gen Secy of AIDB Major SS Dhillon, who also happens to be Chairman of EX-Servicemen Joint Action Front ( Sanjha Morcha).
The Outgoing President Lt Col AS Binder THANKED all, for the support he received from all members in his thank giving speech. Brig Harwant Singh who is also the founder member of AIDB reassured the veteran member that he will carry everyone along as a team. He also reminded the members regarding postponement of Date for depositing the medals with the President as 14 Feb 2010. He requested all to come forward and join hands to win the battle of OROP.
Brig Kiran Krishan SM ( Retd) also addressed the members and introduced New members to all
Col RS Boparai, Vice President AIDB and President of Exservicemen Joint Action Front(Sanjha Morcha ), briefly touched upon the positive role played by AIDB in taking part in membership drive and collection of medals for IESM. He assured full support to any NGO and National party who support the long waiting demand of Ex-servicemen for OROP. He also apprised the members regarding the role of Sanjha Morcha, how its birth took place after fallout of internal fight among the core committee members of IESM at Delhi, who are now fighting Legal Battle in Courts among themselves. Sanjha Morcha will fight for the cause of Exservicemen. All ESM of Punjab are with Sanjha Morcha and will support the fight for the cause of OROP to logical conclusion without looking for any Name or credit.
FOR details & DEFENCE RELATED DAILY NEWS OPEN SANJHA MORCHA BLOG : http:/sanjhamorcha2009.blogspot.com
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Lecture by Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi by veteran Ram Gulrajani ..Chennai
From: Ram Gulrajani ramgulrajani@gmail.com
Sent: 26 January 2010 22:10
To: Vijay Oberoi Lt Gen
Cc: Kamboj CS, Brig; Raj Kadyan Lt Gen; Satbir Singh Maj Gen; Surjit Singh Maj Gen Singh; Barin Ghose Vice Adm (Pen Cell); Chaturvedi RP Col; K. Punchhi; SS Phatak Gp Capt Pen Cell; Sharan Ahuja Cdr; Raman TN
Subject: TALK AT FICCI AUDITORIUM
Dear General
Your talk at the 112th Birthday Celebrations of Netaji Subhash Chander Bose is a fair and timely warning to the political leadership and babus who have taken the soldiers for granted. Your following line should reverberate in the corridors of power
Secondly, if the military continues to be treated with suspicion and disdain, let me be blunt and state that if it wants, it can assert itself and in a manner that may be neither palatable for the political leadership nor good for our democracy.
and make all concerned sit up and take stock of the state of affairs prevailing in Defence matters.
Every word of your lecture is apt and to the point. However, it is unfortunate that our media which is now heading towards paid news system, will not dare to air or print such warnings at the cost of being mauled by babus. But there are many forums on the net where this should be put up for every concerned Indian citizen to read.
However, I say this with regret: our military leadership, however competent professionally, need not be spineless. The last General who kept the politicians and babus in their place was General Manekshaw, who cared two hoots for his comforts after retirement. Its time one more Manekshaw heads the forces.
I congratulate you for your forthright utterances. I pray they reverberate in the corridors.
With best wishes and regards
Veteran Ram Gulrajani
Chennai.
PS.
I have circulated your speech to every Indian in my address book, including some journalists.
Sent: 26 January 2010 22:10
To: Vijay Oberoi Lt Gen
Cc: Kamboj CS, Brig; Raj Kadyan Lt Gen; Satbir Singh Maj Gen; Surjit Singh Maj Gen Singh; Barin Ghose Vice Adm (Pen Cell); Chaturvedi RP Col; K. Punchhi; SS Phatak Gp Capt Pen Cell; Sharan Ahuja Cdr; Raman TN
Subject: TALK AT FICCI AUDITORIUM
Dear General
Your talk at the 112th Birthday Celebrations of Netaji Subhash Chander Bose is a fair and timely warning to the political leadership and babus who have taken the soldiers for granted. Your following line should reverberate in the corridors of power
Secondly, if the military continues to be treated with suspicion and disdain, let me be blunt and state that if it wants, it can assert itself and in a manner that may be neither palatable for the political leadership nor good for our democracy.
and make all concerned sit up and take stock of the state of affairs prevailing in Defence matters.
Every word of your lecture is apt and to the point. However, it is unfortunate that our media which is now heading towards paid news system, will not dare to air or print such warnings at the cost of being mauled by babus. But there are many forums on the net where this should be put up for every concerned Indian citizen to read.
However, I say this with regret: our military leadership, however competent professionally, need not be spineless. The last General who kept the politicians and babus in their place was General Manekshaw, who cared two hoots for his comforts after retirement. Its time one more Manekshaw heads the forces.
I congratulate you for your forthright utterances. I pray they reverberate in the corridors.
With best wishes and regards
Veteran Ram Gulrajani
Chennai.
PS.
I have circulated your speech to every Indian in my address book, including some journalists.
Lecture by Lt Gen Oberoi by Col V Swarup , USA
From: Virendra Swarup colonelviruswarup@gmail.com
Sent: 26 January 2010 01:58
To: oberoivijay@hotmail.com
Subject: Felicitation: Netaji Subhas Bose...
Dear Gen Oberoi,
Congrats for your excellent, thought provoking talk given by you on 23 Jan 10, at FICCI Auditorium, during 112th Birth Day Celebrations of Netaji Subhas Bose…
I’m proud of you Sir!
Warm regards,
Viru Swarup
www.colonelviruswarup.com
5116, East Butler Drive,
Paradise Valley, AZ 85253 USA
(Col Swarup is one of the very bright officers of Army who lost his both eyes in a freak accident – yet manages computers and the typing very efficiently – Chander Kamboj)--------
Sent: 26 January 2010 01:58
To: oberoivijay@hotmail.com
Subject: Felicitation: Netaji Subhas Bose...
Dear Gen Oberoi,
Congrats for your excellent, thought provoking talk given by you on 23 Jan 10, at FICCI Auditorium, during 112th Birth Day Celebrations of Netaji Subhas Bose…
I’m proud of you Sir!
Warm regards,
Viru Swarup
www.colonelviruswarup.com
5116, East Butler Drive,
Paradise Valley, AZ 85253 USA
(Col Swarup is one of the very bright officers of Army who lost his both eyes in a freak accident – yet manages computers and the typing very efficiently – Chander Kamboj)--------
Sunday, January 24, 2010
Veteran Cmde Babru Yadav MVC passes away
From: Arun Saigal saigal.arun@gmail.com
Sent: 24 January 2010 07:28
To: Arun Saigal
Subject: Cmde Babru Yadav MVC
Cmde Babru Bhan Yadav, winner of Maha Vir Chakra in 1971, passed away on 22 Jan 2010 at the age of 82.
I had the privilege to interact with him at length when I was secy of Navy Foundation Delhi charter and when researching for Admiral Nanda's autobiography.
He was a simple and unassuming man till the very end.
As far as I know, he had moved into an old people's home a couple of years ago in preference to living alone.
I am reproducing a small crisp write-up about him for those who are not aware of his achievements. Detailed writeups about him are available on the internet, in 'Transition to Triumph"
http://indiannavy.nic.in/t2t2e/Trans2Trimph/chapters/10_1971%20wnc1.htm
and on the Bharat Rakshak website at
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/History/1971War/44-Attacks-On-Karachi.html?start=1
and at http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/ISSUE4-4/harry.html
To my mind an MVC winner ought to have been given a funeral with full military honours at Brar square. I wonder what the rules/ guidelines are ..
Regards
Arun Saigal
Cdr (retd)
Commodore Babru Bhan Yadav 00101 B
Maha Vir Chakra
(1928-2010)
Commodore Babru Bhan Yadav was born on September 14, 1928 in village Bharawas, Rewari district, Haryana. His father, late Major Bhagwan Singh Yadav M. B. E., had taken part in both the World Wars. Interest in adventurous sea-life came naturally to young Babru Bhan. In fact, this Yadav family's history in joining army, dates back to the Mughal period, relates Colonel M. S. Yadav, his elder brother, and Colonel J. D. S. Yadav, his companion of school days.
Babru Bhan Yadav passed his Intermediate examination from the Banares Hindu University and B Sc from St. Stephen's College, Delhi in 1947. As a student, he was very fond of swimming. He had not seen the sea until he was 20. On the New Year's day in 1951, he got his commission in the Navy at the age of 23 years. He underwent his basic naval training in Devonshire in the United Kingdom.
He also went to Soviet Union for training. Earlier, he had completed Staff College Course. Commodore Yadav got his Maha Vir Chakra (MVC) award for displaying conspicuous gallantry during the 1971 India-Pakistan War for sinking two enemy destroyers and one Mine Sweeper in an offensive sweep on the enemy coast off Karachi. After retirement from the Indian Navy he joined the Merchant Navy.
1971 India-Pakistan War: Commodore Babru Bahan Yadav was the Squadron Commander of a division of ships which formed part of the Task Group of the Western Fleet ordered to carry out an offensive sweep on the enemy coast off Karachi on the night of December 4\5, 1971. Notwithstanding the threat of enemy air, surface and submarine attack, the officer led his division of ships deep into the enemy waters and encountered two groups of large enemy warships. Despite the heavy gun-fire from the enemy destroyers and at great risk to his ships and personnel, Commodore B B Yadav led his squadron towards the enemy in a swift and determined attack. As a result, two enemy destroyers and one mine sweeper were sunk. In this operation, Commodore Babru Bahan Yadav displayed conspicuous gallantry and leadership of a high order in the best traditions of the Indian Navy, for which he was awarded the Maha Vir Chakra (MVC) on 5th December, 1971.
source:
http://www.haryana-online.com/WarHeroes/commodore_b_b_yadav.htm
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Sent: 24 January 2010 07:28
To: Arun Saigal
Subject: Cmde Babru Yadav MVC
Cmde Babru Bhan Yadav, winner of Maha Vir Chakra in 1971, passed away on 22 Jan 2010 at the age of 82.
I had the privilege to interact with him at length when I was secy of Navy Foundation Delhi charter and when researching for Admiral Nanda's autobiography.
He was a simple and unassuming man till the very end.
As far as I know, he had moved into an old people's home a couple of years ago in preference to living alone.
I am reproducing a small crisp write-up about him for those who are not aware of his achievements. Detailed writeups about him are available on the internet, in 'Transition to Triumph"
http://indiannavy.nic.in/t2t2e/Trans2Trimph/chapters/10_1971%20wnc1.htm
and on the Bharat Rakshak website at
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/History/1971War/44-Attacks-On-Karachi.html?start=1
and at http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/ISSUE4-4/harry.html
To my mind an MVC winner ought to have been given a funeral with full military honours at Brar square. I wonder what the rules/ guidelines are ..
Regards
Arun Saigal
Cdr (retd)
Commodore Babru Bhan Yadav 00101 B
Maha Vir Chakra
(1928-2010)
Commodore Babru Bhan Yadav was born on September 14, 1928 in village Bharawas, Rewari district, Haryana. His father, late Major Bhagwan Singh Yadav M. B. E., had taken part in both the World Wars. Interest in adventurous sea-life came naturally to young Babru Bhan. In fact, this Yadav family's history in joining army, dates back to the Mughal period, relates Colonel M. S. Yadav, his elder brother, and Colonel J. D. S. Yadav, his companion of school days.
Babru Bhan Yadav passed his Intermediate examination from the Banares Hindu University and B Sc from St. Stephen's College, Delhi in 1947. As a student, he was very fond of swimming. He had not seen the sea until he was 20. On the New Year's day in 1951, he got his commission in the Navy at the age of 23 years. He underwent his basic naval training in Devonshire in the United Kingdom.
He also went to Soviet Union for training. Earlier, he had completed Staff College Course. Commodore Yadav got his Maha Vir Chakra (MVC) award for displaying conspicuous gallantry during the 1971 India-Pakistan War for sinking two enemy destroyers and one Mine Sweeper in an offensive sweep on the enemy coast off Karachi. After retirement from the Indian Navy he joined the Merchant Navy.
1971 India-Pakistan War: Commodore Babru Bahan Yadav was the Squadron Commander of a division of ships which formed part of the Task Group of the Western Fleet ordered to carry out an offensive sweep on the enemy coast off Karachi on the night of December 4\5, 1971. Notwithstanding the threat of enemy air, surface and submarine attack, the officer led his division of ships deep into the enemy waters and encountered two groups of large enemy warships. Despite the heavy gun-fire from the enemy destroyers and at great risk to his ships and personnel, Commodore B B Yadav led his squadron towards the enemy in a swift and determined attack. As a result, two enemy destroyers and one mine sweeper were sunk. In this operation, Commodore Babru Bahan Yadav displayed conspicuous gallantry and leadership of a high order in the best traditions of the Indian Navy, for which he was awarded the Maha Vir Chakra (MVC) on 5th December, 1971.
source:
http://www.haryana-online.com/WarHeroes/commodore_b_b_yadav.htm
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RESCHEDULING OF IESM MEDAL SURRENDER RALLY PLANNED FOR 31 JAN 10.
Dear Veterans
This year winter has been very severe in Delhi. The temperatures have plummeted down and fog has reduced the visibility to zero since last many days. Met dept has predicted even worse weather in coming days. In view of this and keeping the age of veterans in mind it has been decided to reschedule the medal surrender rally to a later date. The new date will be announced soon.
ALL VETERANS TO PLEASE NOTE THAT MEDAL SURRENDER RALLY PLANNED FOR 31 JAN 2010 HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR A LATER DATE IN VIEW OF INCLEMENT WEATHER CONDITIONS PREVAILING IN DELHI. NEW DATE WILL BE ANNOUNCED SOON.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01202519440
Mobile 09810541222
This year winter has been very severe in Delhi. The temperatures have plummeted down and fog has reduced the visibility to zero since last many days. Met dept has predicted even worse weather in coming days. In view of this and keeping the age of veterans in mind it has been decided to reschedule the medal surrender rally to a later date. The new date will be announced soon.
ALL VETERANS TO PLEASE NOTE THAT MEDAL SURRENDER RALLY PLANNED FOR 31 JAN 2010 HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR A LATER DATE IN VIEW OF INCLEMENT WEATHER CONDITIONS PREVAILING IN DELHI. NEW DATE WILL BE ANNOUNCED SOON.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01202519440
Mobile 09810541222
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Pune Team by Col Rajan
Respected Veterans:
Brig Sharad Luktuke
Gr Capt S S Phatak
Col Dipak Marnik
Wg Cdr S D Karnik
Lt Col Vinod Patil
Cdr Ravi Pathak
Jai Hind & my salute to you all for the yeoman services being rendered by you all.
Regards,
Col Rajan
Brig Sharad Luktuke
Gr Capt S S Phatak
Col Dipak Marnik
Wg Cdr S D Karnik
Lt Col Vinod Patil
Cdr Ravi Pathak
Jai Hind & my salute to you all for the yeoman services being rendered by you all.
Regards,
Col Rajan
Mail from ...Pune Team.... Cdr Pathak
Dear Sir
I have been getting a number of mails praising me for the work being done by me.
I wish to put on record that i am not the only one who has contributed to this success in Pune.I am merely the communication number of the Pune Core group.It is a result of a team work.The team members who have worked towards our goal are
Brig Sharad Luktuke
Gr Capt S S Phatak
Col Dipak Marnik
Wg Cdr S D Karnik
Lt Col Vinod Patil
We are all experiencing that a number of people have heard about the Ground Level work of IESM Pension/ECHS Division and that is drawing people to us.Many have stated that no one else has ever done this for the Veterans.
The other factor in our achieving the success is total unity amongst the members of our core group and no rank hassles.
I hope that this model can be replicated amongst all Conveners and those doing the membership drive.
Brgds
Ravi
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
I have been getting a number of mails praising me for the work being done by me.
I wish to put on record that i am not the only one who has contributed to this success in Pune.I am merely the communication number of the Pune Core group.It is a result of a team work.The team members who have worked towards our goal are
Brig Sharad Luktuke
Gr Capt S S Phatak
Col Dipak Marnik
Wg Cdr S D Karnik
Lt Col Vinod Patil
We are all experiencing that a number of people have heard about the Ground Level work of IESM Pension/ECHS Division and that is drawing people to us.Many have stated that no one else has ever done this for the Veterans.
The other factor in our achieving the success is total unity amongst the members of our core group and no rank hassles.
I hope that this model can be replicated amongst all Conveners and those doing the membership drive.
Brgds
Ravi
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
तंत्र के गण-अधिकार को बनाया हथियार, चमत्कार...Cmde Lokesh Batra deserves a Pat
dainik Jagran Jan 21, 11:34 pm
नहीं होंगे रिटायर कभी says
कमोडोर लोकेश बत्रा। 36 वर्ष तक नौसेना में रहकर देश सेवा की। कहने को तो वर्ष 2003 से सेवानिवृत हैं, लेकिन सही मायनों में नहीं। वह गणतंत्र की सेवा किए जा रहे हैं, जिस तरह एक सच्चे गण को करना चाहिए। ज्यादातर लोग छोटी-छोटी समस्याओं को लेकर तंत्र को कोसते रहते हैं। लेकिन लोकेश बत्रा ने कोसने के बजाए कुछ करने का बीड़ा उठाया। उनके प्रयास का ही नतीजा है कि प्रधानमंत्री कार्यालय में सूचना के अधिकार [आरटीआई] की अपील की सुनवाई के लिए देश के सभी जिलों को वीडियो कांफ्रेंसिंग व्यवस्था से जोड़ा गया। नोएडा प्राधिकरण में आरटीआई के लिए सभी सूचनाओं को आनलाइन कर
दिया गया है। नोएडा के सेक्टर-25 स्थित जलवायु विहार में वह बस गए हैं। 63 वर्ष की आयु में भी वह जवानों पर भारी पड़ते हैं। उन्होंने सूचना का अधिकार एक्ट के हिंदी संस्करण में 34 त्रुटियों को ठीक कराया। पासपोर्ट कार्यालय में सेक्शन 4 को मानने से मना कर दिया था। बाद में उन्होंने आरटीआई के माध्यम से उसे देश के सभी पासपोर्ट कार्यालय में लागू कराया। बत्रा कहते हैं कि आरटीआई को उन्होंने लोकतंत्र की व्यवस्था सुधारने का हथियार बनाया। वह बताते हैं कि प्रधानमंत्री कार्यालय में आरटीआई के लिए दो अलग-अलग स्थानों पर जाना पड़ता था। एक जगह फाइल देखी जा सकती थी और दूसरी जगह पैसे जमा किए जा सकते थे। प्रधानमंत्री के साउथ ब्लाक स्थित कार्यालय में न तो गाड़ी पार्किग और न ही टायलेट की व्यवस्था थी। इसकी शिकायत भी आरटीआई के माध्यम से उन्होंने प्रधानमंत्री कार्यालय में की। बाद में जन सूचना अधिकारी को साउथ ब्लाक से हटाकर रेल भवन में स्थानांतरित कर दिया गया। बत्रा कहते हैं-आरटीआई का प्रयोग करते रहना चाहिए, जब तक आप व्यवस्था को ठीक नहीं करा देते।
Wednesday, January 20, 2010
Case Filed for Pension of Majors & equivalent- Pre 2006
From: avtar singh
Date: 2010/1/20
Subject: RE: [indianveterans] Pension of Majors & equivalent- Pre 2006
To: ravi warsha
Dear Cdr Pathak,
Case is already filed.
First hearing took place on 19 Jan 2010.
Respopndents have been asked to file reply on 16 March 2010.
Through you I wish to inform all vetarns Majors, Sqn Ldre, and LTCdrs that they can join me as petitioner befor the rejoinder is filed. Thereafter they would be at their own to reap the benefits .
Regards
Avtar Singh
Lt Cdr
20-1=2010
Date: 2010/1/20
Subject: RE: [indianveterans] Pension of Majors & equivalent- Pre 2006
To: ravi warsha
Dear Cdr Pathak,
Case is already filed.
First hearing took place on 19 Jan 2010.
Respopndents have been asked to file reply on 16 March 2010.
Through you I wish to inform all vetarns Majors, Sqn Ldre, and LTCdrs that they can join me as petitioner befor the rejoinder is filed. Thereafter they would be at their own to reap the benefits .
Regards
Avtar Singh
Lt Cdr
20-1=2010
Good Work By Cdr Pathak , Col Joshipura and Col Rajan
My heartiest congratulations to Cdr Pathak, Col Joshipura and Col Rajan, for their success in making the ESM in Pune very active in favour of IES.
Keep it up Sirs.
God be with you all.
Regards.
Chander Kamboj
Keep it up Sirs.
God be with you all.
Regards.
Chander Kamboj
Good work by Cdr Pathak at Pune....by Gp Capt VK Gandhi, Secy Gen IESM
Dear Cdr Pathak
IESM Governing body is appreciative of efforts put in by you and ESM in Maharashtra for the welfare of ex-servicemen and IESM. GB supports the lunch on meeting with ex-servicemen. It shows greater commitment by the ex-servicemen that they are contributing for lunch. It is unfortunate that we are not able to attend the meeting due to some pressing personal problems at Delhi. Please explain our difficulty to all present.
Please carry on with the good work regardless of the opposition by some.
I wish you success and God Speed on behalf of all members of Gov Body.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
IESM Governing body is appreciative of efforts put in by you and ESM in Maharashtra for the welfare of ex-servicemen and IESM. GB supports the lunch on meeting with ex-servicemen. It shows greater commitment by the ex-servicemen that they are contributing for lunch. It is unfortunate that we are not able to attend the meeting due to some pressing personal problems at Delhi. Please explain our difficulty to all present.
Please carry on with the good work regardless of the opposition by some.
I wish you success and God Speed on behalf of all members of Gov Body.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
News from Dehra Dun by Lt Col BM Thapa..9th Anniversary of Dehradun Ex-services League; Shyampur Shakha
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brij Mohan Thapa
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Subject: : 9th Anniversary of Dehradun Ex-services League; Shyampur Shakha
To: aaa Brig C S Kamboj
Dear Brig Kamboj,
Many thanks for caring DOON VALLEY ESM. Though Rs 6450 has been depoited towards subscriptions/donations in IESM HDFC bank A/C during last week yet second list of ESM who have become life member will follow soon. More ESM are keen to become member of IESM provided reduced rate of subscription extended further. Kindly confirm.
I am enclosing report of more ESM activities of DOON VALLEY along with photographs of ESM function held on 17 Jan 10 attended by more than 400 ESM and families and also scan copies of News Paper Cutting of Himanchal Times and Garhwal Post. All ESM were happy during the function on hearing all activities of IESM and on receiving welcoming & congratulating message from the Chairman of IESM.
Shyampur Shakha of DESL celebrates its 9th Annual Day.
Shyampur Shakha of Dehradun Ex-Services League, situated beyond Prem Nagar, celebrated its 9th Annual Day on 17th January with great pomp and show at the premises of Sangam Public School. Brig(Retd) K.G.BEHL, President DESLwas the chief guest on the occasion and Smt.Manju Thapa, Gram Pradhan Arcadia,was special guest besides Shri D.S.Badola, Principal Sangam School, Lt Cols B.S.Chettri, R.K.Arya, ans B.M.Thapa, Secy. DESL. Vir Naries of the area. were especially invited.
The programme started with the lighting of lamp by the chief guest and others followed by Saraswati Vandana and welcome song by students and ESM ,especially composed by CPO C. B.Gurung.
The President of Shakha H/Capt. B.S.Thapa, welcomed the guests and the audience and reported about all welfare activities carried out during the year.
In his address Brig Behl, President DESL congratulated the members of the shakha on their raising Day and wished them a very happy and prosperous New Year 2010. He expressed his happiness that inspite of the inclement weather a large number of people have turned out in their gay mood and thanked members of the managing committee for arranging such a nice function and variety entertainment programme..
He was happy that most of the ex-Servicemen have got their arrears but wanted them to check where ever it is not as per figures given in the Pamphlet published by DESL. He expressed his happiness on Govt. agreeing to resolve some of the anomalies pointed out earlier but final orders are not yet out specially raising pension at the time of retirement from 50% to70%, which used to be maximum earlier. He informed the audience thatcase has been taken up with the PCDA and others for fixing pension on the basis of Grade Pay, as being done for fixing regular officers Pay and not the minimum of the scale as done now. It makes a big difference in pension.
Regarding ‘One Rank One Pension’ for which a large number of ESM have returned their medals and the agitation is going on at Delhi he expressed that our full support and a large number of ESM from Dehradun have become members there also. A committee was constituted by DESL which has worked out a table by which working of one rank one pension becomes simpler and Govt. need not to spend as nuch funds as dreaded. Hon’ble Defence Minister has been requested to give time for presentation before officials who are required to take decisions.
Brig Behl also explained about the progress being made in the working of ECHS. He later replied to the queries made by the members regarding various problems being faced and promised to take up the issues with the concerned authorities. He announced the sanction of Rs. 2500/- for the welfare activities.
The cultural programme continued which included Hindi, Rajasthani, Gorkhali,Garhwali and Punjabi songs and dances which were very much appreciated. Large number of school children participated in cultural programme who were awarded cash prizes by ESM for their excellent performance. Donation of Rs 1000.00 each was given by Lt Col S S Thapa, Lt Col B M Thapa and MCPO Class I -S S Panwar, Owner Gass Service for the welfare of Shakha ESM and Veer Narees.
Programme was compered by Lt Hari Singh Gurung, which was highly appreciated by all. It was organized very well by Capt B.S.Thapa Shakha President Shyampur and his team. Lt Col G.B. Gurung proposed the vote of thanks. It was followed by delicious lunch.
In Put
Lt Col B M Thapa,Retd
Gen Secy
D E S L
From: Brij Mohan Thapa
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Subject: : 9th Anniversary of Dehradun Ex-services League; Shyampur Shakha
To: aaa Brig C S Kamboj
Dear Brig Kamboj,
Many thanks for caring DOON VALLEY ESM. Though Rs 6450 has been depoited towards subscriptions/donations in IESM HDFC bank A/C during last week yet second list of ESM who have become life member will follow soon. More ESM are keen to become member of IESM provided reduced rate of subscription extended further. Kindly confirm.
I am enclosing report of more ESM activities of DOON VALLEY along with photographs of ESM function held on 17 Jan 10 attended by more than 400 ESM and families and also scan copies of News Paper Cutting of Himanchal Times and Garhwal Post. All ESM were happy during the function on hearing all activities of IESM and on receiving welcoming & congratulating message from the Chairman of IESM.
Shyampur Shakha of DESL celebrates its 9th Annual Day.
Shyampur Shakha of Dehradun Ex-Services League, situated beyond Prem Nagar, celebrated its 9th Annual Day on 17th January with great pomp and show at the premises of Sangam Public School. Brig(Retd) K.G.BEHL, President DESLwas the chief guest on the occasion and Smt.Manju Thapa, Gram Pradhan Arcadia,was special guest besides Shri D.S.Badola, Principal Sangam School, Lt Cols B.S.Chettri, R.K.Arya, ans B.M.Thapa, Secy. DESL. Vir Naries of the area. were especially invited.
The programme started with the lighting of lamp by the chief guest and others followed by Saraswati Vandana and welcome song by students and ESM ,especially composed by CPO C. B.Gurung.
The President of Shakha H/Capt. B.S.Thapa, welcomed the guests and the audience and reported about all welfare activities carried out during the year.
In his address Brig Behl, President DESL congratulated the members of the shakha on their raising Day and wished them a very happy and prosperous New Year 2010. He expressed his happiness that inspite of the inclement weather a large number of people have turned out in their gay mood and thanked members of the managing committee for arranging such a nice function and variety entertainment programme..
He was happy that most of the ex-Servicemen have got their arrears but wanted them to check where ever it is not as per figures given in the Pamphlet published by DESL. He expressed his happiness on Govt. agreeing to resolve some of the anomalies pointed out earlier but final orders are not yet out specially raising pension at the time of retirement from 50% to70%, which used to be maximum earlier. He informed the audience thatcase has been taken up with the PCDA and others for fixing pension on the basis of Grade Pay, as being done for fixing regular officers Pay and not the minimum of the scale as done now. It makes a big difference in pension.
Regarding ‘One Rank One Pension’ for which a large number of ESM have returned their medals and the agitation is going on at Delhi he expressed that our full support and a large number of ESM from Dehradun have become members there also. A committee was constituted by DESL which has worked out a table by which working of one rank one pension becomes simpler and Govt. need not to spend as nuch funds as dreaded. Hon’ble Defence Minister has been requested to give time for presentation before officials who are required to take decisions.
Brig Behl also explained about the progress being made in the working of ECHS. He later replied to the queries made by the members regarding various problems being faced and promised to take up the issues with the concerned authorities. He announced the sanction of Rs. 2500/- for the welfare activities.
The cultural programme continued which included Hindi, Rajasthani, Gorkhali,Garhwali and Punjabi songs and dances which were very much appreciated. Large number of school children participated in cultural programme who were awarded cash prizes by ESM for their excellent performance. Donation of Rs 1000.00 each was given by Lt Col S S Thapa, Lt Col B M Thapa and MCPO Class I -S S Panwar, Owner Gass Service for the welfare of Shakha ESM and Veer Narees.
Programme was compered by Lt Hari Singh Gurung, which was highly appreciated by all. It was organized very well by Capt B.S.Thapa Shakha President Shyampur and his team. Lt Col G.B. Gurung proposed the vote of thanks. It was followed by delicious lunch.
In Put
Lt Col B M Thapa,Retd
Gen Secy
D E S L
Sunday, January 17, 2010
SRI SATYA SAI BABA HONOURS VETERANS by Maj P Ravindran
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From: Ravindran Major majorravi@gmail.com
Sent: 16 January 2010 08:16
Subject: SRI SATYA SAI BABA HONOURS VETERANS
There is some good news.
Sri Satya Sai Baba has asked his devotees to honour soldiers and veterans. So on Army Day, yesterday, all over the country Sai Samithi members had invited veterans and extolled their contributions. 9 veterans, including me, were there as guests at the local sai samithi where they gifted us a brass lamp, a steel tray, couple of sai books, and of course the prasad! The host while welcoming us said that 'bhagwan' always used to tell his devotees that they should look after their parents and those who failed to do so should never go to him. But 'this time' he also told them that they should ever be grateful to the soldiers who work tirelessly along the borders to secure this country so that 'all of us could enjoy the freedom to do what we want and sleep peacefully'.
I am NO devotee of Sri Sai Baba but I know that he is doing a lot of humanitarian services to the society. And when you think that those who are tasked, empowered and equipped to do these 'services' as a job - whom we normally refer to as the government- are only cheating us, and we have no option but to acknowldege them as human beings, then Sai Baba may definitely be raised to the category of bhagwan!
regards n bw
ravi
(Maj P Ravindran, Kalpathy, Tamil Nadu)
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ISSUE OF FULL LIQUOR QUOTA ON PRODUCING SMART CARD by QMG's Br
Tele 23092347
Army Headquarters
Quartermaster General’s Branch
Dy Dte Gen Canteen Services
New Delhi-110001
31 Mar 2006
No. 96301/Q/DDGCS
Headquarters
HQ Southern Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Eastern Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Western Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Central'Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Northern Command/Q (Ops)
HQ South Western Command/Q (Ops)
Army Training Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Andaman & Nicobar Command/Q
Air Headquarters (Dte of Org)
Naval Headquarters (DPS)
Coast Guard Headquarters
SUB : ISSUE OF FULL LIQUOR QUOTA ON PRODUCING
SMART CARD FROM ANY CANTEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY
1. This HQ is receiving complaints from various quarters stating that some of the URCs are not giving full quota of liquor as authorized to an individual on smart card. Also it has been intimated by troops that URCs are not giving liquor on the smart card when they go on leave / temporary duty. It is reiterated that all personnel of armed forces are authorized to draw their full liquor quota from any URC in the country on producing the smart Card.
2. This is a facility extended to all ranks of Armed Forces. No URC will deny this facility to any
authorized customer. Necessary action may be initiated against the defaulting URCs in future.
3. Naval HQs have intimated that dependent members of their family are not being given canteen
stores without smart card, as already informed, Naval HQs is in the process of implementation of CIMS, till such time canteen facilities may not be denied to them.
4. HQ commands are requested to issue necessary instructions to call concerned on the above issues.
5. Naval HQs only. This disposes off your query on the subject.
(R S Khatri)
Lt Col.
Jt Dir CS
Copy to :
- DGNCC ]
- DGBR ]
- DG Assam Rifles ] For information please
- CSD HO, Mumbai ]
- Army HQ Canteen ‘Q’ Block
Army Headquarters
Quartermaster General’s Branch
Dy Dte Gen Canteen Services
New Delhi-110001
31 Mar 2006
No. 96301/Q/DDGCS
Headquarters
HQ Southern Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Eastern Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Western Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Central'Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Northern Command/Q (Ops)
HQ South Western Command/Q (Ops)
Army Training Command/Q (Ops)
HQ Andaman & Nicobar Command/Q
Air Headquarters (Dte of Org)
Naval Headquarters (DPS)
Coast Guard Headquarters
SUB : ISSUE OF FULL LIQUOR QUOTA ON PRODUCING
SMART CARD FROM ANY CANTEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY
1. This HQ is receiving complaints from various quarters stating that some of the URCs are not giving full quota of liquor as authorized to an individual on smart card. Also it has been intimated by troops that URCs are not giving liquor on the smart card when they go on leave / temporary duty. It is reiterated that all personnel of armed forces are authorized to draw their full liquor quota from any URC in the country on producing the smart Card.
2. This is a facility extended to all ranks of Armed Forces. No URC will deny this facility to any
authorized customer. Necessary action may be initiated against the defaulting URCs in future.
3. Naval HQs have intimated that dependent members of their family are not being given canteen
stores without smart card, as already informed, Naval HQs is in the process of implementation of CIMS, till such time canteen facilities may not be denied to them.
4. HQ commands are requested to issue necessary instructions to call concerned on the above issues.
5. Naval HQs only. This disposes off your query on the subject.
(R S Khatri)
Lt Col.
Jt Dir CS
Copy to :
- DGNCC ]
- DGBR ]
- DG Assam Rifles ] For information please
- CSD HO, Mumbai ]
- Army HQ Canteen ‘Q’ Block
Letter to CNS on Majs Equiv pension By Lt Cdr PS Nath
From: P Surendra Nath ps_nath@yahoo.com
Sent: 16 January 2010 19:00
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
Cc: brigbalan@foghornin.yahoo.com ; UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR
Subject: REVIEW OF PENSION FOR MAJORS AND EQUIVALENT
Dear Brig CS Kamboj, VSM Sir,
I am a retd Lt Cdr who is effected by the low pension after the VI CPC Recommendation implementation. I am honoured to read through your mail the interest taken by Veteran Officers and specifically to Brig Subramanian's honest attempt to look after the forgotten Majors' pension for review through a SOC.
I have gone through the case and wish to humbly submit my understanding of the case as a write up to this mail as attachment. The earlier Lr written by self to CNS and the explanation on Anomaly for Fitment of Pay Scales are also attached.
I shall be grateful if the same is gone through and projected to right authorities, including to Gen Kadyan of IESM. I shall be more than willing to clarify if any issue is not understood or expressed incorrectly.
Thanking you and with warm and respectful regards,
Yours sincerely,
Lt Cdr(Retd) PS Nath
Hyderabad
09440044680
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BY REGD POST WITH ACK DUE
E-Mail I.D : ps_nath@yahoo.com
Lt Cdr (Retd) PS Nath, 40662-N
Flat 107, Jalvayu Vihar
Kukatpally, JNTU Post
Hyderabad 500 072
242/PSN 30 Dec’2009
The Chief of Naval Staff
Naval Headquarters
D Block, Sena Bhavan
New Delhi – 110 011
REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF PENSION -
LT CDR (Retd)PS Nath,40662-N AS RECOMMENDED BY FIFTH CPC
Sir,
1) I have the honour to submit that I was a commissioned Naval Officer with back ground of initial education in Sainik School, trained as cadet at NDA(50th Course) before commission and worked in E(GS) branch with Lt Cdr sea time on the front line ship- SNF and also did graduation at DSSC, Wellington (46th course). However I retired after 20 years and 10 months of commissioned service on pm 30 Apr’1998 with original PPO No. 09/97/A/S/88/1998 dated 15 May 1998 and Corrigendum PPO No. 09/97/A/000421/99 dated 22 Jul’1999.
2) I humbly submit the following with regard to fixation of Pay/Pension and issue of PPO subsequent to implementation of Fifth CPC Recommendations and request to amend the deficiencies at the earliest through appropriate authorities since it impacts the subsequent implementation of VI CPC recommendations. I had detailed how I incurred losses whilst in service and subsequently with lesser pension than those who put in lesser commissioned service than self vide my letter of even number dated 24 Sep’2009 to Principal Director, Directorate of Ex-Servicemen Affairs, (copy enclosed) but sadly it was not acknowledged by him while PCDA (Pension), Allahabad vide letter No. AT/PSB/IV/E-Mail/Secd/AP dated 15 Oct’2009 confirmed that Pension was settled with relevant Govt Orders and that it was only the concerned Department that could settle my grievances and so this earnest appeal.
3) Fixation of Initial Pay for Lt Cdrs in the Revised Scales. Special Navy Instructions 2/S/98 at paragraph 5 detailed the fixation of Initial Pay in the revised scales after award of V CPC but failed to take into account the subsequent removal of anomalies arising from the implementation consequent to V CPC recommendations. Government of India, vide MOD letter No. I(26)/97/II/D(Pay/Services) dated 29 Feb’2000 while removing such anomalies in the implementation of V CPC recommendations had fixed pay of Majors and equivalents in substantive rank at Rs 11,925/- in the pay scale of Rs 11,600-325-14,850, in addition to rank pay but made effective from date of issue of this letter. Making 29 Feb’2000 as effective date is erroneous in law and tantamount to discrimination within the same class of Officers since it was a result of removal of anomalies from the approved V CPC award! Since the Government approved the recommendations of V CPC with effect from 01 Jan’1996, the removal/rectification of Anomalies arising out of the V CPC should also be made effective from the same date so that the justice is equitable to all serving officers on 01 Jan’1996 and thereafter. How could one set of Officers benefit subsequent to issue of letter while the other Officers, while still serving as on date of award of V CPC and its implementation, be denied the benefit of anomalies rectification by Government?!
4) Grant of Time Scale Promotions. Government of India vide MOD letter No. 14(1)/98/D(AG) dated 14 Jan’2000 promulgated revised guidelines/conditions for promotions to Lt Col(TS) and equivalent based on implementation of V th Pay Commission Recommendations as at Para 147.21 of report. Naval Headquarters vide letter JO/78 dated 14 Jan’2000 while promulgating these guidelines made the effective date as the date of issue of that letter. Since the Revised Norms for grant of such Promotions were a sequel to award/Implementation of V CPC Recommendations (Para 147.21) it is natural to Principles of Justice that these were made effective from 01 Jan’1996, which is the basic date of Government approval for Implementation of V CPC so that all Officers who were in Service are treated at par. Else, how could one set of Officers benefit subsequent to issue of letter while the other Officers, while still serving as on date of award of V CPC and its implementation be denied?! I would have been promoted to Cdr(TS) on 01 Jul 1997 on completion of 20 years of Commissioned service had the date of effect of the letter been 01 Jan’1996. Substantiating the above, Constitution of Ajay Vikram Singh committee by GOI subsequent to V CPC further amended the conditions of Promotions of Officers to make just 13 years of commissioned service to make it to Cdr in Navy. Though the letter on the implementations on the above recommendations was issued by the Government vide GOI letter No. 4(1)/US(MP)/D(N-II)/2004 dated 11 Mar’2005 and IHQ, MoD(Navy) letter No. NA/3102/Policy dated 14 Mar’05 – but the date of effect was given as 16 Dec’2004 which was the date of approval by the Government! It is therefore emphasized that the date of approval by the Govt is sacrosanct and in accordance with principles of Natural Justice.
5) It is nevertheless a fact that an Officer who sacrifices his youth in defence of Nation, with differing periods of Retirement but with same conditions of service, are looked after discriminately in terms of pension!! I further appeal to you, sir, which as a result of wrong implementation/effective date as explained in both the cases as above, Officers who put in less commissioned service than self but with equal conditions of service at the time of Implementation of V CPC are drawing more pensions just by virtue of retirement after me! Constitution Bench of Supreme Court in the case of DS Nakara & others vs Union of India (1983) stated that the retirement of an employee cannot form a valid criterion for classification – such classification is held arbitrary and unprincipled which does not stand the test of Article 14 of Constitution of India.
6) In view of the foregoing, I earnestly appeal to you, sir, to seek amendments to the effective date for both the above letters and I be considered as promoted to Cdr(TS) on 01 Jul’1997 and such suitable instructions be issued to the concerned CDA (Navy) to issue Corrigendum to PPO with payment of arrears as per the V CPC Recommendations.
Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
(PS Nath)
Lt Cdr (Retd)
40662- N
Encl: Photocopy of PCDA Letter dated 15 Oct’09 as above
Reduced rates views by Brig Nawab Singh
Dear All,
I also strongly endorse the views that we must keep membership fees at the present lower level atleast till we enroll two lakhs members.
Drive to enroll is on let the momentum continue.
Regards,
Brig Nawab singh
I also strongly endorse the views that we must keep membership fees at the present lower level atleast till we enroll two lakhs members.
Drive to enroll is on let the momentum continue.
Regards,
Brig Nawab singh
Reduced rates by Air Cmde Raghubir Singh from Pune
Honourable Members of the Core Gp,
Kindly sustain the membership fee at current reduced rates if aim is to increase our numbers -so essential for the IESM voice to be audible where it matters. I would go a step further to allow even free membership in villages & remote areas at the discretion of State Convenors.Their their expenses should also be reimbursed. One lakh would make threshold level.
Air Cmde Raghubir Singh(Retd)
Kindly sustain the membership fee at current reduced rates if aim is to increase our numbers -so essential for the IESM voice to be audible where it matters. I would go a step further to allow even free membership in villages & remote areas at the discretion of State Convenors.Their their expenses should also be reimbursed. One lakh would make threshold level.
Air Cmde Raghubir Singh(Retd)
Request by Brig CS Kamboj on reduced rates for membership
16 Jan 10.
Reference email from Col Kumar appended below.
First of all, my sincere congratulation to Col Kumar and his wife for commendable success in enrolling new members.
Do keep up the good work.
Secondly – for those who will take the decision on the rates of membership – whether to continue with the present lower rates or revert to the old rates – please do keep in mind that the moment you announce the decision to revert to old higher rates of membership – the enrolment of new members will come to a standstill, at least for next few months.
Therefore, I once again humbly appeal to the decision makers to kindly extend the present reduced rate of membership for another three months.
This is what the majority of the ESM want. Their wishes should prevail over all other considerations.
This is what will make IESM successful in having large membership base.
For kind consideration of the Governing Body of IESM.
Regards to all members of Core Group and the Governing Body.
Chander Kamboj
Reference email from Col Kumar appended below.
First of all, my sincere congratulation to Col Kumar and his wife for commendable success in enrolling new members.
Do keep up the good work.
Secondly – for those who will take the decision on the rates of membership – whether to continue with the present lower rates or revert to the old rates – please do keep in mind that the moment you announce the decision to revert to old higher rates of membership – the enrolment of new members will come to a standstill, at least for next few months.
Therefore, I once again humbly appeal to the decision makers to kindly extend the present reduced rate of membership for another three months.
This is what the majority of the ESM want. Their wishes should prevail over all other considerations.
This is what will make IESM successful in having large membership base.
For kind consideration of the Governing Body of IESM.
Regards to all members of Core Group and the Governing Body.
Chander Kamboj
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