By Rear Admiral Alan O’Leary (Retd)
Ex -Chairman PARC Sixth CPCIntroduction:
1. For sometime past, I have contemplated putting my thoughts together on OROP (One rank, one pension) and penning them down, in such a way that the reader could appreciate the nuances of the subject, that would eventually lead to some of our intellectuals ,examining the issue in its entirety and determining a way ahead. It would be presumptuous on my part to assume, that I could put all the facts down, but am attempting to focus on the main issues, that I feel could be brought into our case. I would like to place on record, that I am in full agreement with the article written by Group Capt AG Bewoor, on 21 Mar 11, that was circulated on the IESM network. Complications - OROP:
2. OROP, is not a simple issue, which has been further complicated by the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission, in a similar fashion as was done in the Fourth Pay Commission, when a vertical Pay Band, created ostensibly, to address stagnation in the ranks of Armed Forces officers, up to the rank of Brigadier, laid the cornerstone for denigration of ranks, within the Armed Forces. This happened, because Rank pay was introduced up to the rank of Brigadier but was subsumed from the replacement scale, instead of being given over and above the replacement scale (this is the famous Major Dhanapalan case for which a final decision is awaited from the Supreme Court). Furthermore, because Major Generals and above did not get Rank pay, those Major Generals who retired prior to the fourth CPC, found their pensions lower than that of a Brigadier, which was much later brought at par. Some justice.
3. The Sixth Pay Commission, introduced pay promotions, for the All India Services and the Organised Group A services, on a non-functional basis up to the HAG Grade, but did not consider it fit to extend this largesse to officers of the Armed Forces whose pay traditionally was at par with the Organised Group A services.
Functioning of the Pay Commission:
4. I will not delve on why OROP is required. This aspect has been clearly brought out by Group Capt Bewoor. One aspect of his article however is worth mentioning and I will restate it. He, like all members of the Services Pay Cells, in the Sixth Pay Commission, always wondered why, the Pay Commission (and subsequently those same individuals, who continued to function in the Finance Ministry, after the Pay Commission was wound up) in examining the issues relating to Fauji's, came out with solutions, “crafted with deliberate cussedness and meanness". All Pay Commissions (3, 4, 5 and 6) had Armed Forces Pay Cells that interacted with the Pay Commission. Some to a greater extent and some to a lesser extent. I understand that in the Fifth Pay Commission, there was hardly any interaction. What was common in all cases, however, was the fact that the Armed Forces Pay Cells, had dedicated and competent Officers, who did their homework and in no time at all, could present their cases, or clarify issues to the Pay Commission.
5. The Pay Commissions were always headed by an eminent Jurist, but there was no opportunity given to the Armed Forces Pay Cells, to clarify issues or to defend themselves, during the proceedings, with him present. The whole exercise was carried out behind closed doors at the whims of bureaucrats in the commission. The Armed Forces were never informed of the devious methodologies being determined, that would always put them on the back foot. If they were, I am sure many of the anomalies could have been easily resolved, before the recommendations were finalised. The Sixth CPC even boasted, that for quicker decision making (and secrecy) their Officer complement was kept to a minimum. Their final recommendations, were given to the Armed Forces Pay Cells the night before the recommendations were placed in the public domain, at a dinner hosted by them, at the India International Centre. I am saying this, so that the reader can understand, why it was necessary for the Armed Forces Pay Cells, to try and get back what was denied in the first instance. Furthermore, as I already stated, the same individuals who crafted the Sixth CPC recommendations, were promptly appointed to the Finance Ministry, so that they could continue their mission to sidestep and deflect our objections, which they did with considerable success.
Unfinished agenda of the Sixth CPC:
6. In my first e-mail, I had mentioned, that there were two issues that bothered me the most and which were swept under the carpet. The first, concerned the status of Lt Colonels, who being in a higher Pay Scale compared to civil servants (equivalent to Commandant in the Para military services) prior to the Sixth CPC, were given a lower Grade Pay of Rs 8000, instead of Rs 8700. The second and equally vital issue was the introduction of a methodology to isolate the Service Officer from the largesse proposed for Organised Group A Officers. The latter, would ensure that during the currency of the Sixth CPC, almost all officers of the Organised Group A services, would cross the rubicon of Pay Band 4 and move to HAG, whereas 99% Service Officers will be stuck in Pay Band 4. Sadly, though the PARC had got the COSC approval (July 2008), to place on record the objections of the Armed Forces to the Government, this has not been progressed. This, if not ironed out, will have very serious consequences for the Pay equivalence and status of Armed Forces Officers in the future. It also means that the Civil Services have taken our lead and given unto themselves OROP, which is at the moment enjoyed by Lt Generals and above, who are placed in HAG and HAG +. A mere 0.02% of the Officer cadre in the Armed Forces, vis a vis 100% of Officers from the Organised Group A services. I would also like to point out, that PARC had fought and brought Lt Generals (non C-in-C) into HAG. They were earlier also in Pay Band 4. Thus, within the same Pay Band, the difference in pay (Lt Col to Lt Gen), were the increments on account of length of Service and Grade Pay. For pensions for those who retired prior to 1 Jan 2006, the difference in pension between a Lt Colonel and Lt General was half the difference of Grade Pay. This changed only subsequently for Lt Generals (non C-in-C).
Pay promotions for IAS Officers and other Organised Group A services on a Non-Functional basis:
7. The Govt have approved the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission, (Art 3.3.12, Page 174, of the Sixth CPC recommendations) which states, “The Govt. should consider batch-wise parity while empanelling and\or posting at Centre between respective batches of the IAS and other Organised Group A services, with the gap being restricted to 2 years. Whenever any IAS Officer of a particular batch is posted in the Centre to a particular grade, carrying a specific grade pay in PB 3 or PB 4, grant of a higher Pay Scale on non-functional basis to officers belonging to batches of organised Group A services, that are senior by two years or more, should be given by the Government”. Subsequently, the Govt. have also clarified that an Officer in the civil services, who has completed 5 years in the SAG grade will be given a pay promotion to the HAG scale on a non-functional basis.
8. In connection with the above, I would like to add that a Joint Secy to the Govt of India and a Major General equivalent, are SAG officers, but in protocol are higher than SAG officers of the Organised Group A services, who are not appointed to the post of Joint Secy to the Govt of India. This means, that an Organised Group A Service Officer, will attain SAG grade in 18 years (2 years astern of the IAS). He will not be equivalent to a Major General in protocol but would move up to the HAG grade (Lt General) on a non functional, pay promotion basis in 23 years, whereas a Brigadier if selected, is promoted to Major General in 32 years (SAG grade) and in most cases will retire in that grade. A mere 30% of Major Generals will attain HAG grade. The other Major Generals retiring in the SAG grade even though they may have completed 5 years of service in that grade. Is such a gross disparity acceptable to the Armed Forces?
9. The above provisions, made by the IAS for themselves and the Organised Group A services, will keep them laughing all the way to the bank, not only in their service career, but also in their retirement. These provisions facilitate them leap frogging to higher posts on a non functional basis, with the pay of higher posts, whereas the Armed Forces Officer stagnates in rank and at the end of it all, 99% will retire in Pay Band 4.The question is, how is it that pay promotions on a non functional basis, are within the realm of reasonability, when it pertains to the IAS and Organised Group A services, but is absolutely unacceptable for the Armed Forces. This disparity and bias I am sure, is without precedent anywhere in the world. One of the specious arguments used by the Finance Ministry is that, consequent to the AVS Committee report, Majors are promoted to Lt Colonel in 13 years, by time. How unholy an unorthodox, but are they able to explain how they have gone even further for the civil services in their proposals at Article 3.3.12. Is it an acceptable logic that IAS Officers are mature enough to attain the SAG grade in 16 years (maximum), whereas Armed Forces officers need 32 years to reach the same level?. Yet another oft repeated, half truth, is that Armed Forces officers are commissioned at the age of 20 years and IAS Officers join at 28 years. In other words, the Armed Forces Officer has to pay the price of qualifying earlier, after meeting the graduation criteria and also getting through the Services Selection Board and still losing out to the Organised Group A services Officer. What they conveniently gloss over, is that they enjoy a full career up to 60 years and beyond, whereas 99% of Armed Forces officers, retire between 54 to 58 years. Furthermore, the IAS lobby ensures that 90% of their kin continue to serve in various capacities in the Government up to the age of 65 and beyond. A case for raising the retirement age of Civil Government servants to 65 years is in fact being currently considered by the DoP&T.
10. One aspect, always brought out by the Finance Ministry, is that all those who joined the Civil Services, post 1 January 2004, will be governed by a New pension scheme that is self contributory, unlike the Armed Forces that continue to enjoy a pension scheme. First of all, nobody can say for certain, that there will be no change of policy in 2024. Secondly, this does not make martyrs of those who joined the Civil Services, before 1 January 2004 for which they need to give themselves fast track pay promotions and eventually the highest slab to retire from.
Key Issues-OROP:
11. The following are the main reasons for OROP: -
· Giving the Armed Forces officer, the same pay promotions on a non-functional basis, as approved by the Govt, for the All India Services and the Organised Group A services (Article 3.3.12 of the Sixth CPC report).
· Reducing the disparity in pensions, between those who retire in the currency of a Pay Commission and those who retired earlier.
· Ensuring that an Armed forces officer is correctly compensated for his length of service and rank in which he retired (Comparable to the Organised Group A services).
· Rationalising the pension gaps between ranks, with special emphasis on those ranks in which a large number of officers retire (Major and Lt Col).
· Bridging the pension gaps, resulting from the skewed imbalance, caused by adjusting all ranks from Major General and below, within Pay Band 3 & 4. This is further compounded, as pre 1 January 2006 pensioners, are brought down to the minimum of the Band in which they retired and the difference in pensions being half the difference of Grade Pay.
· Addressing the issue of Armed Forces officers, stagnating below, Joint Secy level, due to their traditional rank structures and denying them pay promotions, at par with the changes invoked for the All India Services and Organised Group A services. This, despite the fact that successive Pay Commissions have ruled that parity needs to be maintained between the Armed Forces and the Organised Group A services.
· Stepping up (notionally) the pensions of Majors who retired in the previous pay commissions and who are now affected in their present pensions, which are based on 13 years of service, whereas these officers in the past had served at least 20 years before they took premature retirement.
· Protection to retired Armed Forces officers whose pensionary status has been reduced, consequent to Cadre reviews of the Organised Group A services, thereby upsetting the parity that existed at the time of their retirement (Status of a Lt Col, who retired prior to the Sixth CPC, was higher than a Commandant in the para military forces. There is thus no reason why, these officer’s pension should now be lower than a Commandant of the para military forces).
Pension Structure:
12. Consequent to adjustments, post the Sixth CPC report, the levels of pensions for various ranks in the Officer Cadre, as also family pensions, have been promulgated vide a MoD letter of 15 Nov 2010. These are indicated below –
SerialRankOfficer’s PensionFamily Pension
(a)Lt (Army)Rs 13,500Rs 8,100
(b)Capt (Army)Rs 13,850Rs 8,310
(c)Major Rs 14,100Rs 8,460
(d)Lt Col Rs 25,700Rs 15,420
(e)Col Rs 26,050Rs 15,630
(f)BrigadierRs 26,150Rs 15,690
(g)Major GeneralRs 26,700Rs 16,020
(h)Lt GeneralRs 36,500Rs 21,900
(j)Army CommanderRs 40,000Rs 24,000
(k)Army ChiefRs 45,000Rs 27,000
13. The table indicates qualifying service from 10 years to 30 years and the amount of pension indicated is inclusive of the Rank weightage admissible that varies from 9 years for Lt (Army) to 3 years for a General.
Service required for maximum pension:
14. Pension in a rank, varies depending on the length of service that plateaus at different levels, depending on the Rank in which the Officer retired, as shown below
(a)Lt(Army) to Capt (Army)24 Years
(b)Major25 Years
(c)Lt Col(TS)28 Years
(d)Lt Col (Select)26 Years
(e)Col(TS &Select)26 Years
(f)Brigadier28 Years
(g)Major General and above30 Years
15. From the above it is obvious, that the Pay Band structure coupled with a methodology of adjusting pensions at the minimum of the Pay Band in the subsequent Pay Commission is designed to cause dissatisfaction in the Armed Forces, but is perfectly suited to the changes invoked by the Sixth CPC for the AIS and Organised Group A Services, where officers will stagnate (if this is the correct term) at the highest levels, all crossing the HAG barrier, whereas, in the Armed Forces 99% officers will stagnate in Pay Band 4.
Fault lines in the pension structure:
16. These are indicated below-
· The difference of pension of a Lt Col ( Select) who retires after 26 years of service is only Rs. 1,000 less than a Major General with over 30 years service
· The difference in pension between a Col (Battalion Commander) and a Brigadier (Brigade Commander), who retired before 1 Jan 2006, is Rs 100. (3 cone ice-creams or one bottle of rum and a packet of Lays)
· The difference in pension between a Lt Col and Brigadier, who retired prior to 1 Jan 2006, is Rs 450. And the rank of Brigadier is attained after an officer qualifies two promotion Boards.
· Artificial gulfs have been created between Majors and Lt Colonels (Rs 11,600) and also between Major Generals and Lt Generals, non C-in C (Rs 9,800). The question is whether the convenience to adhering to artificially created barriers is logical and acceptable.
· For ranks at the bottom of the scale (PB - 3 and higher), the pensionary awards are reasonable i.e. in the ranks of Lt (Army), Lt Col, Lt Gens and above. Offcourse as brought out earlier, the Armed Forces need to press for an enhancement of Grade pay of Lt Col from Rs 8000 to Rs 8700,which was a faulty and arbitrary dispensation, when it became inevitable for the Govt to bring Lt Col's to Pay Band -4.
· For ranks not mentioned above, the pensionary awards should have been spaced out more evenly for pensions. In this connection, the Sixth CPC found no difficulty in creating four Pay Bands above the SAG scale i.e. HAG, HAG+, Secy to the Govt of India and Cabinet Secy scales. However, they only devised a single scale below SAG, which has caused so much heart burn in the Armed Forces, since 99% officers currently retire in that scale, as against 100% IAS officers who go up to the Apex scale.
Recommendations on OROP:
17. In my opinion, on first principle, the Armed Forces Officer, must be given the same benefits sanctioned by the Govt for officers of the organised Group A services, as successive Pay Commissions have ruled that, there should be pay parity between officers of the Armed Forces and the Group A services in general and the Indian Police, in particular. Even the Sixth CPC, have not made any comment to the contrary. Further, this needs to be done, immediately, as there is no justification whatsoever, for stymieing pay progression of an Armed Forces officer, on a non- functional basis(not linked to the extant rank structure) for pay enhancement up to the HAG level. It is only then that we can achieve a true OROP. Since this is an acceptable principle for the AIS and the Organised Group A services, there is no rationale for excluding Armed Forces Officers from this scheme. Ofcourse, it will actually benefit officers who will retire in the future, yet it will have to be taken into account, for pension fixation for those who retired before the next CPC. It may be relevant to point out that Lt Gens(non C -in C ) were placed in PB -4,by the Sixth CPC, but were subsequently raised to the HAG + scale after hardnosed negotiations, notwithstanding the fact that they were not in this scale, when they retired. Hence there is no reason, why Colonels and Brigadiers cannot also finally attain the HAG grade prior to retirement. This will only place them at par with their counterparts in the Group A services. Furthermore, a precedent exists in the fifth CPC, where Brigadiers owing to Rank Pay, drew more pension than a Maj Gen.
18. I believe that the dividing line for promotions in the Armed Forces is extremely fine and with promotional posts so limited, even outstanding Officers are not promoted, due to deep selection. We therefore cannot lose this opportunity of also taking Colonels and Brigadiers to the HAG scale, on a non - functional, pay promotion basis. In the Armed Forces, the rank and command structures are well defined and understood. Even today, a Colonel serving in the glacier or, a Capt(Navy) from the Aviation or submarine arms, would draw more pay in real terms than a Maj General or a Rear Admiral from the the general service. But that does not dilute the command structure. Yet, I know that there will be some reservations amongst the top management of the Armed Forces to accept this, whose doubts will be fuelled by those in the Finance Ministry. However could those at the helm of the Finance Ministry, then explain their actions with regard to the assured career progression from Pay Band -3, up to the HAG scale, for themselves and also for the Organised Group A services? My biggest fear is that if this anomaly is not corrected, then in the next Pay Commission, these differences will be fully exploited to further dilute, the status and pay of Armed Forces officers. This therefore requires immediate correction.
19. Notwithstanding the above, we need to also readjust pensionary benchmarks, for our retired fraternity, so that the differences in pension compensate a retired officer meaningfully, for his length of service and rank, in which he retired. Also, protecting the officers who retired, before changes in the time spent in the lower ranks was reduced, post the AVS Committee report. The methodology, of bunching various ranks and bringing them down to the minimum of the Pay Band, is clearly unsuited to the Armed Forces. Horizontal bands or striations are necessary and desirable. Taking into account the table at para 12 above, the following minimum pensions are suggested:-
(a) Lt(Army) - Rs 13,500.(No change, as an officer who retired in this rank, would have spent, only 3-4 years, as a commissioned officer)
(b) Capt (Army) - Rs 16,500. (As an officer in this rank would have spent 11 years as a commissioned officer)
(c) Major - Rs 19,500 (An officer who retired in this rank, would have at least completed time for pension i.e. 20 years)
(d) Lt Col - Rs 25,700. (No change, as this pension is given to a Lt Col, who has completed 26 years of service)
(e) Brigadier - Rs 31,500. (An officer who retired in this rank, even prematurely, would have completed at least 32 years of service)
(f) Major Gen - Rs 33,500. (This pension is recommended as less than 1% of Armed Forces officers attain Flag Rank)
OROP -Other Ranks:
20. In this paper, I have not discussed this subject, as there are many other factors that are quite different as compared to Officers. Firstly their careers are truncated to a far greater extent. Secondly, although their pensions are decided at the top of the scale in which they retired, even with the assured career progression approved by the Sixth CPC, they may not be able to get the third pay promotion before they retire, unlike civil servants. Consequent to the Sixth Pay Commission awards, there were positive changes made to the modified assured career progression methodology for civilians that have so far not been made applicable to the other ranks of the Armed Forces. This is therefore a subject that needs to be considered separately, which will follow in a subsequent article.
Conclusion:
21. This paper seeks to bring out issues that, if not corrected, will result in a sense of despondency and disillusionment amongst the officer cadre of the Armed Forces. The Armed Forces officer does not desire more compensation, either in his service career or after his retirement. He just wants, what justifiably should have come his way, without having to fight for his rights. Lowering of his status and thereby his pay, without a valid reason, cannot help keep his morale high. Unfortunately the Armed Forces have never shown the resolve they display in battle, as do when it comes to matters pertaining to their pay and perks. This is all the more reason, why they should be treated with the respect that is their due.
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THE END
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
4TH CPC RANK PAY ANOMALY COURT JUDGEMENT
4th Pay Commission Rank Anomaly: GOI Prays before the Supreme Court
PROGRESS 4TH CPC RANK PAY ANOMALY COURT JUDGEMENT
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Union of India has moved an application in SC for Directions seeking Modification/ Directions/ Recall of Order dated 8th March 2010 regarding their Rank Pay Case.
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA- THE PRAYER
It is, therefore, most humbly and respectfully prayed that this Hon'ble Court may be pleased to pass the following orders:-
(a) Recall the order dated 8th March 2010.
(b) Upon notice, re-hear all the cases on merits.
(c) Admit Writ petition Nos. ... grant rule and hear them finally.
(d) Call for the records of the Writ Petitions filed in the various High Courts and after the completion of pleadings, hear the same finally.
(e) Pending further orders on the application grant an ad interim stay of the order dated 8th March 2010.
(f) Pass such other and further orders as this Hon'ble Court may deem fit and proper in the facts and circumstances of the present case.
Filed by: Advocate for the petitioner
Settled By: Sh Gopal Subramanium, Solicitor General
Comments:
This is another delaying tactic route taken by bureaucrats to confuse the Politicians and the Public. Intention of GOI is to deny the Military fraternity their dues and stall the implementation of the Judicial Rulings. The Army, Navy and Air HQs seems to have no visible influence to ensure justice for its ESM! . The only Veteran who has got his entitlement is Maj Dhanapalan
2. All Offrs including serving officers commissioned from 1/1/86 upto 31/11/05 are also affected. Therefore respective Service HQs must counter this move by babus.
3. The judgement has far reaching consequences. The Pay and Allowances and pension 4th and 5th Pay Commission would have to be worked out afresh. The Govt has no grounds to make prayer to recall the judgement. We must fight this case forcefully.
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PROGRESS 4TH CPC RANK PAY ANOMALY COURT JUDGEMENT
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Union of India has moved an application in SC for Directions seeking Modification/ Directions/ Recall of Order dated 8th March 2010 regarding their Rank Pay Case.
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA- THE PRAYER
It is, therefore, most humbly and respectfully prayed that this Hon'ble Court may be pleased to pass the following orders:-
(a) Recall the order dated 8th March 2010.
(b) Upon notice, re-hear all the cases on merits.
(c) Admit Writ petition Nos. ... grant rule and hear them finally.
(d) Call for the records of the Writ Petitions filed in the various High Courts and after the completion of pleadings, hear the same finally.
(e) Pending further orders on the application grant an ad interim stay of the order dated 8th March 2010.
(f) Pass such other and further orders as this Hon'ble Court may deem fit and proper in the facts and circumstances of the present case.
Filed by: Advocate for the petitioner
Settled By: Sh Gopal Subramanium, Solicitor General
Comments:
This is another delaying tactic route taken by bureaucrats to confuse the Politicians and the Public. Intention of GOI is to deny the Military fraternity their dues and stall the implementation of the Judicial Rulings. The Army, Navy and Air HQs seems to have no visible influence to ensure justice for its ESM! . The only Veteran who has got his entitlement is Maj Dhanapalan
2. All Offrs including serving officers commissioned from 1/1/86 upto 31/11/05 are also affected. Therefore respective Service HQs must counter this move by babus.
3. The judgement has far reaching consequences. The Pay and Allowances and pension 4th and 5th Pay Commission would have to be worked out afresh. The Govt has no grounds to make prayer to recall the judgement. We must fight this case forcefully.
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IESM MEMORANDUM IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC INPUTS SOUGHT WITH REFERENCE TO PETITION PRAYING FOR GRANT OF ONE RANK ONE PENSION TO THE ARMED FORCES PERSONNEL
Dear Veterans
1. We thank the large number of veterans who have given us valuable suggestions for drafting the memorandum for the Petitions committee. This is to inform you that IESM memorandum duly incorporating the suggestions from veterans has been submitted to the petition Committee. The same will be made public once the Petition Committee has seen it.
2. Gen Raj Kadyan, our Chairman has written a letter to the UPA Chairman Mrs Sonia Gandhi regarding, enhancement of Widows’ pensions and has sought time and date when the group of widows could meet her and present her with their memorandum.
3. The time has come for the OROP to be sanctioned. Let us all join together to give strong push forward for the cause. The Govt will have to address the grave injustice done to the Defence Forces. The injustice is so deep and the cause is so strong that our genuine demand cannot be set-aside by the Govt any more.
4. The monsoon session of the Parliament starts on 14 Jul 2011. An intense pressure needs to be built on the Govt to see reasons to the genuine demand of OROP. We have multipronged activities simultaneously planned for the same. May we request the veterans having flair for writing to write articles for various news papers, magazines etc. We also request our veterans who have contacts with the media for coverage.
5. If the OROP is not granted by the Govt by then, the IESM has planned series of “Fauji Gaurav Yatras” in various states starting with Punjab in Sep – Oct 2011. The Yatra will cover all districts of the State. Conveners at all levels may kindly start thinking about it with an aim to execute “Fauji Gaurav Yatra” meticulously as per the Fauji Precision.
With Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman, IESM
Mob : 9312404269,0124 – 4110570
Email : satbirsm@gmail.com, satbirsm@yahoo.com
Monday, April 25, 2011
New IESM members at Jhunjhunu 23 Apr 2011
Respected Sir,
The Newly joined members of IESM at Jhunjhunu on 23 Apr 11.
Capt Jai Pal Singh
H/Capt Joki Ram
H/N/Sub Kanhaiya Lal
H/Capt Vidya dhar
H/Capt Balbir Singh
H/N/Sub Rattan Singh
Sub Amilal Verma
Sub Subhash Chandra
N/Sub Hem Raj Singh
Sub Maj Girdhari Lal
H/Capt Jai Narayan
Sub Mahabir Singh
Sub Satya Narain
Sub Aladin Khan
Sub Mali Ram
Sub Ramnath
H/Capt Liaqat Ali
Sub Imad Ali
H/N Sub Shamsher Ali
H/ Capt Prabhu Singh
Sub Ali Hasan Khan
Hav Hari Singh Dhau
Hav Mohd Yasim Khan
Nk Harish Chandra
Dfr Dariya Singh
Hav Jita Ram
Sep Ramautar
Nk Ram Kumar
Gdr Asmat Ali Khan
Hav Subhash Chander
Nk Abbas Ali
Hav Hari Singh
RFN Ram Saroop
Hav Bachan Singh
Hav Sattar Ali
Nk Nathu Sinh Shekhawat
NK Birbal Singh
PNR Hanuman Singh
RFN Gpal Singh
Hav Shivlal Lal Singh
Hav Mustak Ali Khan
Hav Sultan Singh
Sep Ram Nath
Regards,
Kameshwar
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Kameshwar Pandey
Sub/Maj Hony. Lt. (Veteran)
Governing Body Member
Indian ESM Movement
The Newly joined members of IESM at Jhunjhunu on 23 Apr 11.
Capt Jai Pal Singh
H/Capt Joki Ram
H/N/Sub Kanhaiya Lal
H/Capt Vidya dhar
H/Capt Balbir Singh
H/N/Sub Rattan Singh
Sub Amilal Verma
Sub Subhash Chandra
N/Sub Hem Raj Singh
Sub Maj Girdhari Lal
H/Capt Jai Narayan
Sub Mahabir Singh
Sub Satya Narain
Sub Aladin Khan
Sub Mali Ram
Sub Ramnath
H/Capt Liaqat Ali
Sub Imad Ali
H/N Sub Shamsher Ali
H/ Capt Prabhu Singh
Sub Ali Hasan Khan
Hav Hari Singh Dhau
Hav Mohd Yasim Khan
Nk Harish Chandra
Dfr Dariya Singh
Hav Jita Ram
Sep Ramautar
Nk Ram Kumar
Gdr Asmat Ali Khan
Hav Subhash Chander
Nk Abbas Ali
Hav Hari Singh
RFN Ram Saroop
Hav Bachan Singh
Hav Sattar Ali
Nk Nathu Sinh Shekhawat
NK Birbal Singh
PNR Hanuman Singh
RFN Gpal Singh
Hav Shivlal Lal Singh
Hav Mustak Ali Khan
Hav Sultan Singh
Sep Ram Nath
Regards,
Kameshwar
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Kameshwar Pandey
Sub/Maj Hony. Lt. (Veteran)
Governing Body Member
Indian ESM Movement
Monday, April 18, 2011
Help in remote Areas by Brig RS Rawat
From: rajender rawat [mailto:rsrawat47@hotmail.com]
Sent: 14 April 2011 22:09
To: cs.kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: FW: Draft of Letter to CDA for incl name and DOB spouse
Importance: High
Dear Sir, It was perhaps almost 2 years ago when I chanced upon the need to have the DOB of my wife endorsed in IHQ as also in a Corr PPO to be issued by the PCDA (Pension) so that when the time inevitably will come my wife will not have to knock the doors of Soldier Board & other ESM offices for assistance. Many very senior offrs took offence to this initiative stating that AG's Br already has this data. So, many, still to this date have taken no action.
The point I wish to highlight is that we at UESL have lost count of how many cases we have taken up with the IHQ, who, have been prompt enough to fwd the necessary letter to PCDA ( Pension) for issue of the Corr PPO. However to date, except for two cases, no one has been issued the Corr PPO.
The initial hurdle with the PCDA ( Pension) was that a LPC cum Data Sheet had NOT been submitted. This was a new requirement as perhaps the good official at Allahabad did not want to browse through a maze of documents that we had to meticulously prepare & submit. Fair enough! The Data Sheet was prepared & forwarded. Still there has been no Corr PPO OR an ack. Perhaps the office is overloaded.
After all what is the great fuss that we are making over this subject - one may ask? This is why:-
(a) Smt Durga Maya Rai was paid approx Rs 2 lakhs as Addl Pension.
(b) Smt Rekha Rawat's LTA were paid to her son Col SPS Rawat.
(c) Widow of late Lt Col Kundan Singh Rawat was paid over Rs 1 lakh as Additional Pension.
(d) After over 6 months Smt Gayatri Gusain has still not been paid her Addl Pension. The GOI letter states that the bank will pay Addl Pension on submission of proof for a period of 6 months. This has NOT been done by Allahabad Bank till this aspect was brought to their notce. A total of over 10 trips have been made by me to this bank to resolve her FP & Addl Pension. Still no Addl Pension has been paid. A letter was written to PCDA (Pension) who promptly wrote back to IHQ to mail the LPC cum Data Sheet. Now at this end we are preparing the same for submission. Why are we doing this? Is this our job? If we don't who else will? AND if we do not then someone else will avail the LTA. How tragic - a widow will not be able to use the money meant for her during her life time.
The examples show how widows have got thier dues after our active intervention. Who is supposed to do all this?
Now I wish to come to the final point. PLEASE SEE WHAT THE INDIAN NAVY IS DOING & LEARN A LESSON. The NAVAL FOUNDATION has taken the initiative to post the attached application to all offrs who retired before 2006. Their procedure is simple with no hassles. PLEASE peruse this & compare it with the docus needed by PCDA (Pension). The former is simpler. Why are we being asked to present sheets of paper? Let me state here that IF the very first docu eg the easily obtained PAN Card has a fudged date no one will find out - neither the bank, Notary, Service HQ or PCDA Pension - all of who countersign it as correct! So, what kind of authentication & value addition is being accrued by preparing this document? Let us make it simple like the Navy has done.
KINDLY READ THE MAIL FWD & SEE HOW SIMPLE THE NAVY HAS MADE THIS PROCESS
Rgds
Brig RS Rawat
Vice President UESL
Sent: 14 April 2011 22:09
To: cs.kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: FW: Draft of Letter to CDA for incl name and DOB spouse
Importance: High
Dear Sir, It was perhaps almost 2 years ago when I chanced upon the need to have the DOB of my wife endorsed in IHQ as also in a Corr PPO to be issued by the PCDA (Pension) so that when the time inevitably will come my wife will not have to knock the doors of Soldier Board & other ESM offices for assistance. Many very senior offrs took offence to this initiative stating that AG's Br already has this data. So, many, still to this date have taken no action.
The point I wish to highlight is that we at UESL have lost count of how many cases we have taken up with the IHQ, who, have been prompt enough to fwd the necessary letter to PCDA ( Pension) for issue of the Corr PPO. However to date, except for two cases, no one has been issued the Corr PPO.
The initial hurdle with the PCDA ( Pension) was that a LPC cum Data Sheet had NOT been submitted. This was a new requirement as perhaps the good official at Allahabad did not want to browse through a maze of documents that we had to meticulously prepare & submit. Fair enough! The Data Sheet was prepared & forwarded. Still there has been no Corr PPO OR an ack. Perhaps the office is overloaded.
After all what is the great fuss that we are making over this subject - one may ask? This is why:-
(a) Smt Durga Maya Rai was paid approx Rs 2 lakhs as Addl Pension.
(b) Smt Rekha Rawat's LTA were paid to her son Col SPS Rawat.
(c) Widow of late Lt Col Kundan Singh Rawat was paid over Rs 1 lakh as Additional Pension.
(d) After over 6 months Smt Gayatri Gusain has still not been paid her Addl Pension. The GOI letter states that the bank will pay Addl Pension on submission of proof for a period of 6 months. This has NOT been done by Allahabad Bank till this aspect was brought to their notce. A total of over 10 trips have been made by me to this bank to resolve her FP & Addl Pension. Still no Addl Pension has been paid. A letter was written to PCDA (Pension) who promptly wrote back to IHQ to mail the LPC cum Data Sheet. Now at this end we are preparing the same for submission. Why are we doing this? Is this our job? If we don't who else will? AND if we do not then someone else will avail the LTA. How tragic - a widow will not be able to use the money meant for her during her life time.
The examples show how widows have got thier dues after our active intervention. Who is supposed to do all this?
Now I wish to come to the final point. PLEASE SEE WHAT THE INDIAN NAVY IS DOING & LEARN A LESSON. The NAVAL FOUNDATION has taken the initiative to post the attached application to all offrs who retired before 2006. Their procedure is simple with no hassles. PLEASE peruse this & compare it with the docus needed by PCDA (Pension). The former is simpler. Why are we being asked to present sheets of paper? Let me state here that IF the very first docu eg the easily obtained PAN Card has a fudged date no one will find out - neither the bank, Notary, Service HQ or PCDA Pension - all of who countersign it as correct! So, what kind of authentication & value addition is being accrued by preparing this document? Let us make it simple like the Navy has done.
KINDLY READ THE MAIL FWD & SEE HOW SIMPLE THE NAVY HAS MADE THIS PROCESS
Rgds
Brig RS Rawat
Vice President UESL
DEVOTED VETERAN WORKING IN REMOTE AREAS
From: rsrawat47@hotmail.com
To: kuthiala27@hotmail.com
Subject: REPORT BY A DEVOTED VETERAN WORKING IN REMOTE AREAS FOR INDIAN MILITARY VETERANS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 163/2011 - 10 APR 2011 (LIST-3)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:17:30 +0530
Thank you Sir.
This is my second foray as part of "Farthest First". The earlier one was to Pipalkjoti in end Dec.
We have helped 45 plus 16 ESM in these remote areas till now.
The banks have great faith in me. Every case sent by me is is settled promptly even by the CPPC Cell Dehradun. Even PNB Zonal office attaches great significance to my recommendations.
I have so far drawn approx Rs 1.5 cr from the banks in favour of ESM _ AT NO COST TO THEM & always at my cost as I do all errands for them in my car - even visit to the hills. Got my dad Rs 9.27 lakhs as arrears! Helped several Maj Gens get their arrears where they were awarded 10% penal interest. Most of the were unaware of the order & totally unaware of MS Excel & formulas.
I have helped several at Gurgaon too - latest case is of a Lt Col 's widow Mrs Reoti Charasia who I have been informed has been paid Rs 4 lakhs.
I can thank honest upright elders like you under whom I served.
I appreciate your letter on OROP.
Warm rgds
Raju Rawat (Brig RS Rawat, ESL Uttrakhund)
To: kuthiala27@hotmail.com
Subject: REPORT BY A DEVOTED VETERAN WORKING IN REMOTE AREAS FOR INDIAN MILITARY VETERANS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 163/2011 - 10 APR 2011 (LIST-3)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:17:30 +0530
Thank you Sir.
This is my second foray as part of "Farthest First". The earlier one was to Pipalkjoti in end Dec.
We have helped 45 plus 16 ESM in these remote areas till now.
The banks have great faith in me. Every case sent by me is is settled promptly even by the CPPC Cell Dehradun. Even PNB Zonal office attaches great significance to my recommendations.
I have so far drawn approx Rs 1.5 cr from the banks in favour of ESM _ AT NO COST TO THEM & always at my cost as I do all errands for them in my car - even visit to the hills. Got my dad Rs 9.27 lakhs as arrears! Helped several Maj Gens get their arrears where they were awarded 10% penal interest. Most of the were unaware of the order & totally unaware of MS Excel & formulas.
I have helped several at Gurgaon too - latest case is of a Lt Col 's widow Mrs Reoti Charasia who I have been informed has been paid Rs 4 lakhs.
I can thank honest upright elders like you under whom I served.
I appreciate your letter on OROP.
Warm rgds
Raju Rawat (Brig RS Rawat, ESL Uttrakhund)
Some views....
Ex-servicemen in another combat
Sharan Poovanna Express News Service First Published : 12 Apr 2011 03:01:01 AM
BANGALORE: Defence personnel dedicate themselves to the country. Day and night, they guard the borders and save the people from enemies. They are recognised by the government and the society for their great contribution to the country with awards and medals.
However, once they retire, they face many problems. Undeterred, these retired officials continue to fight like they did on the battlefield. They have, so far, received nothing more than empty assurances.
"We have been fighting for One Rank One Pension," stated Wing Commander (Retd) Ashok Gupta. Terming the decision of the government to deny them their right as the "funniest thing in the world", he said the entire ex servicemen fraternity had voiced its concerns but the government continued to ignore them.
One Rank One Pension
Explaining the concept, he said a Colonel-rank officer in the army today gets more pension than that of a Major General who retired 15-20 years ago.
"We in the army follow hierarchy, but if a junior ranked official gets more pension, then what is the use of a higher rank?" he questioned.
Adding to this, Lt Col Satwant Singh, Secretary of the Delhi based Retired Defence Officers Association (RDOA), expressed his displeasure and said this trend was funny at best and preposterous at worst.
Informing that retired officers from across the nation have even surrendered their gallantry medals, he said: "Defence personnel have put their lives on the line to earn those medals, which acknowledge and appreciate their work. But if the same people are willing to give away this, it only shows how pained they feel about being treated this way."
Grant of Rank Pay
On June 10, 2010, Major General Mrinal Suman wrote: "The growing adversarial relationship between the government and ex servicemen is a matter of grave concern. For the past few years, an impression is gaining ground that the government is becoming increasingly intolerant and biased against ex servicemen and is treating them unfairly. The military is an instrument of the government. How can a government let itself be seen as an adversary of its own constituent?" He added: "They do not seek favour or pity but ask for compassion, understanding and equity. They want their government to acknowledge the severity of their service conditions and their contribution to nation safeguarding." Lt Col Satwant Singh stated that the fourth Pay Commission had granted Rank Pay in addition to basic pay for officers up to the rank of Brigadier. However, he added, while fixing pay in the integrated scale, an amount equal to the Rank Pay was deceitfully deducted by the bureaucrats from the total dues, thereby causing heavy financial loss to the officers.
"It was an act of betrayal of the trust of the armed forces. No other country in the world is known to have conspired and connived so blatantly to deprive its own soldiers of their rightful dues," Major General Suman added.
Systematically deprived
Lt Col Savant compared an army man's retirement plan with a civilian's. He said civilians can work until their retirement age and hence can avail the full pension. "A Lt Colonel and Colonel retire at 54, Brigadier at 56, Major General at 58 and so on", he said and added: "That's the system which forces them to retire and hence, they would not be able to get the full pension."
Shortchanged
He said Indian Administrative Service (IAS) and other such services had the provision of promotions that would guarantee them a minimum post of secretary in their service.
"It takes an officer more than 33 years of service to become a Major General in the Army, which is equivalent to that of Joint Secretary cadre. But any IAS officer will reach a minimum of secretary cadre within 1622 years of service," he said and added that only five per cent of officers in the Army would reach this position as compared with their civilian counterparts.
Disability pension
"We are not even given disability pension on the same lines as the civilian services," Lt Col Savant added.
Even the Supreme Court has directed the government to ensure that the same services are given to defence personnel but it is yet to be implemented by the government.
"There are over 4,000 cases pending in the Armed Forces Tribunal," he said and added that ex-servicemen were still being made to run from pillar to post to claim their rights.
Big steps
These brave soldiers were given some respite when Member of Parliament Rajeev Chandrashekar gave a presentation on 'One Rank One Pension' to the Petitions Committee of the Parliament. The Petition Committee will now meet to discuss the petition and issue advertisements in leading newspapers to seek comments and suggestions from the public. The Committee will then consider all letters and suggestions and take the matter for consideration.
Ex-servicemen in another combat
Fake democracy at work. Electoral reforms?
Cash-for-votes in Tamil Nadu polls
Sharan Poovanna Express News Service First Published : 12 Apr 2011 03:01:01 AM
BANGALORE: Defence personnel dedicate themselves to the country. Day and night, they guard the borders and save the people from enemies. They are recognised by the government and the society for their great contribution to the country with awards and medals.
However, once they retire, they face many problems. Undeterred, these retired officials continue to fight like they did on the battlefield. They have, so far, received nothing more than empty assurances.
"We have been fighting for One Rank One Pension," stated Wing Commander (Retd) Ashok Gupta. Terming the decision of the government to deny them their right as the "funniest thing in the world", he said the entire ex servicemen fraternity had voiced its concerns but the government continued to ignore them.
One Rank One Pension
Explaining the concept, he said a Colonel-rank officer in the army today gets more pension than that of a Major General who retired 15-20 years ago.
"We in the army follow hierarchy, but if a junior ranked official gets more pension, then what is the use of a higher rank?" he questioned.
Adding to this, Lt Col Satwant Singh, Secretary of the Delhi based Retired Defence Officers Association (RDOA), expressed his displeasure and said this trend was funny at best and preposterous at worst.
Informing that retired officers from across the nation have even surrendered their gallantry medals, he said: "Defence personnel have put their lives on the line to earn those medals, which acknowledge and appreciate their work. But if the same people are willing to give away this, it only shows how pained they feel about being treated this way."
Grant of Rank Pay
On June 10, 2010, Major General Mrinal Suman wrote: "The growing adversarial relationship between the government and ex servicemen is a matter of grave concern. For the past few years, an impression is gaining ground that the government is becoming increasingly intolerant and biased against ex servicemen and is treating them unfairly. The military is an instrument of the government. How can a government let itself be seen as an adversary of its own constituent?" He added: "They do not seek favour or pity but ask for compassion, understanding and equity. They want their government to acknowledge the severity of their service conditions and their contribution to nation safeguarding." Lt Col Satwant Singh stated that the fourth Pay Commission had granted Rank Pay in addition to basic pay for officers up to the rank of Brigadier. However, he added, while fixing pay in the integrated scale, an amount equal to the Rank Pay was deceitfully deducted by the bureaucrats from the total dues, thereby causing heavy financial loss to the officers.
"It was an act of betrayal of the trust of the armed forces. No other country in the world is known to have conspired and connived so blatantly to deprive its own soldiers of their rightful dues," Major General Suman added.
Systematically deprived
Lt Col Savant compared an army man's retirement plan with a civilian's. He said civilians can work until their retirement age and hence can avail the full pension. "A Lt Colonel and Colonel retire at 54, Brigadier at 56, Major General at 58 and so on", he said and added: "That's the system which forces them to retire and hence, they would not be able to get the full pension."
Shortchanged
He said Indian Administrative Service (IAS) and other such services had the provision of promotions that would guarantee them a minimum post of secretary in their service.
"It takes an officer more than 33 years of service to become a Major General in the Army, which is equivalent to that of Joint Secretary cadre. But any IAS officer will reach a minimum of secretary cadre within 1622 years of service," he said and added that only five per cent of officers in the Army would reach this position as compared with their civilian counterparts.
Disability pension
"We are not even given disability pension on the same lines as the civilian services," Lt Col Savant added.
Even the Supreme Court has directed the government to ensure that the same services are given to defence personnel but it is yet to be implemented by the government.
"There are over 4,000 cases pending in the Armed Forces Tribunal," he said and added that ex-servicemen were still being made to run from pillar to post to claim their rights.
Big steps
These brave soldiers were given some respite when Member of Parliament Rajeev Chandrashekar gave a presentation on 'One Rank One Pension' to the Petitions Committee of the Parliament. The Petition Committee will now meet to discuss the petition and issue advertisements in leading newspapers to seek comments and suggestions from the public. The Committee will then consider all letters and suggestions and take the matter for consideration.
Ex-servicemen in another combat
Fake democracy at work. Electoral reforms?
Cash-for-votes in Tamil Nadu polls
Friday, April 15, 2011
Friday, April 8, 2011
Appeal by Brig CS Kamboj
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
It is a great pity that in spite of repeated requests by IESM to All Indian Military Veterans, in and around NCR, out of over 1.5 lakh veterans just two or three veterans show their face at Jantar Mantar and they too come and go after spending hardly few minutes – as if they had come for sightseeing.
All military veterans in and around NCR need to re-examine – do they still have blood running through their veins or has it turned into water!!!
If you are still interested in the welfare of the country – please do visit Jantar Mantar and support IESM in its mission to support Anna Hazare.
Please do read fresh appeal of IESM appended below and cooperate – PLEASE.
DO NO LOOK FOR EXCUSES TO BE ABSENT FROM JANTAR MANTAR.
BE A PROUD SOLDIER AND BE AT IESM TENT TO SUPPORT ANNA HAZARE.
DO SO WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY.
Vande Matram
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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Jai Hind.
It is a great pity that in spite of repeated requests by IESM to All Indian Military Veterans, in and around NCR, out of over 1.5 lakh veterans just two or three veterans show their face at Jantar Mantar and they too come and go after spending hardly few minutes – as if they had come for sightseeing.
All military veterans in and around NCR need to re-examine – do they still have blood running through their veins or has it turned into water!!!
If you are still interested in the welfare of the country – please do visit Jantar Mantar and support IESM in its mission to support Anna Hazare.
Please do read fresh appeal of IESM appended below and cooperate – PLEASE.
DO NO LOOK FOR EXCUSES TO BE ABSENT FROM JANTAR MANTAR.
BE A PROUD SOLDIER AND BE AT IESM TENT TO SUPPORT ANNA HAZARE.
DO SO WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY.
Vande Matram
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
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Long Live Veteran Anna Hazare
Dear Chander,
A small write up is attached. May I request this on the RMS and all other affiliated groups. Chhikara Brig RS Chhikara, Secy Gen, Netaji Subhash Foundation Trust and a devoted member of IESM IS IT OUR DEMOCRACY THAT IS TO BLAME FOR THE SORRY STATE OF INDIA?
I have been witnessing the revolution at Jantar Mantar since yesterday and have listened to responses on TV debates. The Executive and the legislature are worried about losing what they consider their rights and their exclusive space. One basic premise of their responses runs as follows:
We are a democracy with a constitution and nothing can be done or even attempted out side the constitutional frame work. Legislative, Judiciary and Executive alone can make laws, change the constitution, adjudicate constitutional disputes until it is amended and execute laws through procedures and rules laid down by the executive. Civil Society and the citizen at large have no locus standi in decision making once they have sent their pseudo representatives to the legislature.
The following beg serious consideration.
Whose constitution is it? Is it of WE THE PEOPLE or is it of we the legislature?
Who is the sovereign? The Citizen or the MP/ MLA or the PM/ Cabinet?
Does the legislature indeed represent the majority as should be the case in a democracy? Most Win with 15 to 20% of total votes cast.
Do the voting citizen have any say in selecting candidates? Does he have a real choice of selecting? Parties allot tickets through an opaque mechanism.
Is the elected legislator free to work in the best interest of those who he pretends to represent? Or is he subservient to Party whip or his own political interest?
What recourse does the voting community have to correct an errant legislator who manages to get elected on promises he is neither sincere about nor capable of working for?
Does he have the right to recall?
Does our democracy enable citizens to get laws they wish passed? Is referendum not their right especially when his interests are obviously at variance from those of the elected legislators?
Are we not stake holders in our own governance in a democracy ‘of the people for the people and by the people’? People as in the public and as in the Civil Society.
Our legislature has a vested interest in Corruption and power of patronage. Are they our patrons or are they our servants? The question reverts to who is sovereign he or we?
Anna’s agitation as it is being termed is only the starting point for getting answers to these very basic questions in the public mind. It can not stop here because the root causes of the maladies of mis- governance and corruption lie, not in the lok Pal Bill not being in position. It lies with our Electoral System, with our Party System indeed with our democracy. The politician has to find his rightful place as a servant of society who must work for the common good of the majority and for the maximum good of the nation. His own survival (Not his best political interest) must be co terminus with the best interest of the people of India. To that end this movement must aim at rectification of our democratic system. The constitution is sacrosanct only so far as it serves the interest of the people who have adopted it for themselves. A stage of despair and frustration has reached the stage where People don’t give a damn for being called a Democracy. They would rather exchange it with good governance with or without the falce glory of being called the largest democracy in the world.
Long Live Veteran Anna Hazare
Long Live Veteran Solidarity with Anna.
Veterans need to support the Second War of Independence from Corrupt Rule.
Comment: If one answers all the above questions sincerely then one deduces that our Democracy is a Fake and a Farce. Even Banana Republics fair better!
A small write up is attached. May I request this on the RMS and all other affiliated groups. Chhikara Brig RS Chhikara, Secy Gen, Netaji Subhash Foundation Trust and a devoted member of IESM IS IT OUR DEMOCRACY THAT IS TO BLAME FOR THE SORRY STATE OF INDIA?
I have been witnessing the revolution at Jantar Mantar since yesterday and have listened to responses on TV debates. The Executive and the legislature are worried about losing what they consider their rights and their exclusive space. One basic premise of their responses runs as follows:
We are a democracy with a constitution and nothing can be done or even attempted out side the constitutional frame work. Legislative, Judiciary and Executive alone can make laws, change the constitution, adjudicate constitutional disputes until it is amended and execute laws through procedures and rules laid down by the executive. Civil Society and the citizen at large have no locus standi in decision making once they have sent their pseudo representatives to the legislature.
The following beg serious consideration.
Whose constitution is it? Is it of WE THE PEOPLE or is it of we the legislature?
Who is the sovereign? The Citizen or the MP/ MLA or the PM/ Cabinet?
Does the legislature indeed represent the majority as should be the case in a democracy? Most Win with 15 to 20% of total votes cast.
Do the voting citizen have any say in selecting candidates? Does he have a real choice of selecting? Parties allot tickets through an opaque mechanism.
Is the elected legislator free to work in the best interest of those who he pretends to represent? Or is he subservient to Party whip or his own political interest?
What recourse does the voting community have to correct an errant legislator who manages to get elected on promises he is neither sincere about nor capable of working for?
Does he have the right to recall?
Does our democracy enable citizens to get laws they wish passed? Is referendum not their right especially when his interests are obviously at variance from those of the elected legislators?
Are we not stake holders in our own governance in a democracy ‘of the people for the people and by the people’? People as in the public and as in the Civil Society.
Our legislature has a vested interest in Corruption and power of patronage. Are they our patrons or are they our servants? The question reverts to who is sovereign he or we?
Anna’s agitation as it is being termed is only the starting point for getting answers to these very basic questions in the public mind. It can not stop here because the root causes of the maladies of mis- governance and corruption lie, not in the lok Pal Bill not being in position. It lies with our Electoral System, with our Party System indeed with our democracy. The politician has to find his rightful place as a servant of society who must work for the common good of the majority and for the maximum good of the nation. His own survival (Not his best political interest) must be co terminus with the best interest of the people of India. To that end this movement must aim at rectification of our democratic system. The constitution is sacrosanct only so far as it serves the interest of the people who have adopted it for themselves. A stage of despair and frustration has reached the stage where People don’t give a damn for being called a Democracy. They would rather exchange it with good governance with or without the falce glory of being called the largest democracy in the world.
Long Live Veteran Anna Hazare
Long Live Veteran Solidarity with Anna.
Veterans need to support the Second War of Independence from Corrupt Rule.
Comment: If one answers all the above questions sincerely then one deduces that our Democracy is a Fake and a Farce. Even Banana Republics fair better!
Mail from Col Desai ..Kolhapur
From: Vishwasrao Desai
Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 21:03
Subject: Re: [IESM-595] Re: [IESM_Group:116] REPORT OF 5 APR 11 FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION
To: raviwarsha@gmail.com
I am an active member of the local ( Kolhapur ) unit of Anna
Hazare Anti Curruption unit, and participating in the moment.I am
trying to get the local Ex servicemen involved
Col Desai
Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 21:03
Subject: Re: [IESM-595] Re: [IESM_Group:116] REPORT OF 5 APR 11 FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION
To: raviwarsha@gmail.com
I am an active member of the local ( Kolhapur ) unit of Anna
Hazare Anti Curruption unit, and participating in the moment.I am
trying to get the local Ex servicemen involved
Col Desai
REPORT OF 7 APR 11 FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION
Dear Veterans
7 April is the third day of fast of Veteran Anna Hazare. He is in good health and is steadfast in his resolve to continue till Govt agrees to the demands for an effective LokPal bill. Three social activist who were supporting veteran Anna Hazare and were also observing fast felt uncomfortable and their health deteriorated in Delhi heat. These social activist had to be hospitalised.
The mood at the venue is upbeat and veteran Anna sahib is fighting fit for the long battle with the Government. It is understood that Government mediators are in contact with the team and are trying to find a solution. Hopefully a workable solution would be found soon. Veteran Anna Hazare has already refused to head the committee to be set up for drafting the bill. He has proved that he is a social activist in true sense and is not after any post or office.
More than two hundred veterans have visited the IESM tent every day and signed their support for the cause. Some pictures are attached. IESM WOULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT TO THE ANTI CORRUPTION CRUSADE OF VETERAN ANNA HAZARE
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
Thursday, April 7, 2011
LET US REVIVE OUR OLD MORAL TRADITIONS TO END CORRUPTION FROM ROOT BY SUPPORTING CAUSE TAKEN BY ANNA HAAZARE AN EX SOLDIER FROM A S C
LET US REVIVE OUR OLD MORAL TRADITIONS TO END CORRUPTION FROM ROOT BY SUPPORTING CAUSE TAKEN BY ANNA HAAZARE AN EX SOLDIER FROM A S C
Brig(Retd) K.G.BEHL,
President Dehradun Ex-Services League
and
President AICC UttarakhandWhile paying homage on 23 Mar 2011 to Martyrs Shaheed Bhagat Singh, Sukh dev and Raj Guru who sacrificed their lives, on that day, a novel idea sprouted to end corruption. as our martyrs did to remove slavery by their dedication and devotion to create awareness amongst the people by telling that they are slaves and they have to remove it by throwing out British Govt. by sacrificing their lives. They took a pledge to remove slavery and asked every one to do so as it would keep the idea of removing slavery alive all the time and remind that they have not to cooperate with British till they leave the country. Accordingly, it was decided on Martyres Day that each one of us should pledge in writing that he/she will not indulge in corruption come what may. Hence forth, neither will they accept nor give any gratification to do or get done any work which tantamount to corruption.
Today the ruler is Corruption, which has permeated every where including Govt., politicians, bureaucrats or rather all parts of the functioning of the institutions/offices framed under the constitution of India making every one its slave. This slavery of corruption has to be removed at all costs. All of us have to stand united to remove this evil. Anna Hazare is setting example by sitting on fast till end, to force Govt. to act and put up Jan Lok Pal Bill with suggested modifications and get it passed in Parliament so that start may be made to end corruption. The bill will act as adeterrent and instill fear against corruption. Those in Delhi or areas around can join to support Anna Hazare AT 1000 hrs at Janter Mantar New Delhi on 5TH April 2011.
Anna Hazare was a soldier. Driving one of the vehicles in the Convoy during 1965 Indo-Pak war, which was strifed by the Pakistani aircrafts leaving practically all his colleagues dead. Anna treated this as second life which he dedicated for the wellbeing of the society. Whatever gratuity he got from Govt. he spent for the welfare of the people and transformed the village into an ideal village. He lead a simple life. As a bachelor, an ascetic, he has no possessions, no bank balance and lives in a temple. He is a living Mahatma Gandhi.
He lead many delegations and observed fast many times, which forced govt. to change some of their orders which are against the public.
Let all of us at Dehradun INCLUDING ALL Ex-Servicemen of Doon Valley lend full support to this noble cause to liminate corruption by attending rally at Gandhi Park from 5 to 7 PM on 5TH Apr. 11 by lighting a candle. In addition we can send our above Pledge to Anna Hazare that henceforth we will not indulge in corruption come what may. Copies of the pledge will be available on the ground for those who wish to sign. This pledge will become a deterrent to corruption when confronted with such situations.
The cause is being supported by a number of leading social & welfare societies of the town.
Lt Col B M Thapa, VeteranGeneral SecretaryDehradun Ex-Services League
Wednesday, April 6, 2011
IESM WHOLE HEARTED SUPPORT TO VETERAN ANNA HAZARE
From: IESM_GovBody@yahoogroups.com [mailto:IESM_GovBody@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rakesh Prasad Chaturvedi
Sent: 05 April 2011 20:18
Subject: [IESM_GovBody] Anna Hazare's Fast [3 Attachments]
[Attachment(s) from Rakesh Prasad Chaturvedi included below]
IESM today joined Anna Hazare's historic fast for a Jan Lok Pal Bill. Some pictures are attached.
I will be manning the fort tomorrow- all day. Addressees of this mail are requested to come and join me. There are things we can talk and plan. Do come.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
Skype: rakesh.prasad.chaturvedi
Monday, March 28, 2011
MINUTES OF MEETING OF GOV BODY AT 1730H ON 18 MAR 2011 AT VK NEW DELHI
MINUTES OF MEETING OF GOV BODY AT 1730H ON 18 MAR 2011 AT VK NEW DELHI
Following members attended the meeting;
1. Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan PVSM, AVSM and VSM Chairman
2. Maj Gen Satbir Singh SM Vice Chairman
3. Maj Gen PK Renjen AVSM
4. Brig CS Kamboj VSM
5. Col Kirit Joshipura
6. Wg Cdr CK Sharma Treasurer
7. Col Rakesh Chaturvedi
8. Cdr Ravi Pathak On skype from Pune
9. Cdr SS Ahuja Jt Secretary
10. Hony Lt K Pandey
11. Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM Gen Secretary
12. Lt Cdr SS Beniwal Guest in attendance
Following points were discussed:
1. Debrief on core Gp meeting 5 March 2011; Gen Secretary briefed all on the core group meeting held on 5 March 2011 and explained that the total expenditure on the core gp meeting was Rs 8293. It was also brought out that despite reimbursing the fare for the conveners; the strength of members attending the meeting was very less. The members opined that it could be because IESM is only reimbursing the train fare and not the stay for the conveners. It was therefore decided that the conveners would be reimbursed for their to and fro 2 AC train fare plus Rs 500 the meeting as incidental expenditure.
2. Debrief on the IESM Rally on 6 March 2011 at Jantar Mantar; Gen Secretary briefed all on the IESM rally held on 6 March 2011 at Jantar Mantar from 1000h to 1530h. The rally was attended by more than 6500 veterans from 16 states of India. The mood in the rally was upbeat and all veterans were determined for a long fight for OROP. Arrangements in the rally were good. The expenditure on the rally was Rs 221690/. MOM of the rally has been issued.
3. Legal case to be filed for Mil pay; The detail discussion on the issue was held, and despite the fact that a decision was taken in the 8 Jan 11 meeting to file the case for Mil Pay (OROP), it was opined that there is a need for more discussions and advise from legal experts before filing the suit. It was decided that IESM should go ahead and prepare the case for OROP.
4. Filing of PIL in Supreme Court for not implementing the decision of the court orders; It was decided that enough data was not available to file a contempt of court case against Government. It was decided to gather specific cases and then press for the PIL against Government for not implementing the judgment of Supreme Court orders. It was decided to form a team to study and suggest action taken on the issue. The team would comprise of
· Lt Cdr SS Beniwal
· Col Oberoi
· Gp Capt VK Gandhi
5. Status of AFGRC; It was noted with concern that AFGRC has yet not started functioning. These are tricks Government plays with courts and veterans. It would be better to file an RTI rather than a PIL.
6. Status of Major’s pension; It was decided that all help would be provided to the veterans fighting the case.
7. IESM stand on India against Corruption; It was decided that IESM would support the agitation of veteran Anna Hazare and India against corruption group. Gen sec would make a roster for the veterans who would join the agitation on Jantar Mantar. All state conveners would be asked to support the agitation organized by the group in state capital.
There being no other point the meeting was closed at 2030h
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM (Retd)
Gen Secretary IESM
20 March 2010
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Following members attended the meeting;
1. Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan PVSM, AVSM and VSM Chairman
2. Maj Gen Satbir Singh SM Vice Chairman
3. Maj Gen PK Renjen AVSM
4. Brig CS Kamboj VSM
5. Col Kirit Joshipura
6. Wg Cdr CK Sharma Treasurer
7. Col Rakesh Chaturvedi
8. Cdr Ravi Pathak On skype from Pune
9. Cdr SS Ahuja Jt Secretary
10. Hony Lt K Pandey
11. Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM Gen Secretary
12. Lt Cdr SS Beniwal Guest in attendance
Following points were discussed:
1. Debrief on core Gp meeting 5 March 2011; Gen Secretary briefed all on the core group meeting held on 5 March 2011 and explained that the total expenditure on the core gp meeting was Rs 8293. It was also brought out that despite reimbursing the fare for the conveners; the strength of members attending the meeting was very less. The members opined that it could be because IESM is only reimbursing the train fare and not the stay for the conveners. It was therefore decided that the conveners would be reimbursed for their to and fro 2 AC train fare plus Rs 500 the meeting as incidental expenditure.
2. Debrief on the IESM Rally on 6 March 2011 at Jantar Mantar; Gen Secretary briefed all on the IESM rally held on 6 March 2011 at Jantar Mantar from 1000h to 1530h. The rally was attended by more than 6500 veterans from 16 states of India. The mood in the rally was upbeat and all veterans were determined for a long fight for OROP. Arrangements in the rally were good. The expenditure on the rally was Rs 221690/. MOM of the rally has been issued.
3. Legal case to be filed for Mil pay; The detail discussion on the issue was held, and despite the fact that a decision was taken in the 8 Jan 11 meeting to file the case for Mil Pay (OROP), it was opined that there is a need for more discussions and advise from legal experts before filing the suit. It was decided that IESM should go ahead and prepare the case for OROP.
4. Filing of PIL in Supreme Court for not implementing the decision of the court orders; It was decided that enough data was not available to file a contempt of court case against Government. It was decided to gather specific cases and then press for the PIL against Government for not implementing the judgment of Supreme Court orders. It was decided to form a team to study and suggest action taken on the issue. The team would comprise of
· Lt Cdr SS Beniwal
· Col Oberoi
· Gp Capt VK Gandhi
5. Status of AFGRC; It was noted with concern that AFGRC has yet not started functioning. These are tricks Government plays with courts and veterans. It would be better to file an RTI rather than a PIL.
6. Status of Major’s pension; It was decided that all help would be provided to the veterans fighting the case.
7. IESM stand on India against Corruption; It was decided that IESM would support the agitation of veteran Anna Hazare and India against corruption group. Gen sec would make a roster for the veterans who would join the agitation on Jantar Mantar. All state conveners would be asked to support the agitation organized by the group in state capital.
There being no other point the meeting was closed at 2030h
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM (Retd)
Gen Secretary IESM
20 March 2010
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
A CLEAR VICTORY STAMP OF IESM ON THE LATEST REPORT SUBMITTED BY STANDING COMMITTEE ON DEFENCE
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
The email from Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Vice Chairman IESM, and the enclosures received with it appended below, will make it very clear to you all that it is the efforts of IESM that Standing Committee on Defence has submitted two successive reports in favour of Indian Military Veterans.
Dear friends – it is time that those Indian Military Veterans, who had doubt about the success of IESM in its ops, to do serious rethinking.
If you are genuinely interested in getting justice for Indian Defence personnel – serving and retired, please come forward and support IESM whole heartedly
We also appeal to all the ESM Organisations, to stop the policy of pleasing the Babus and toeing their line of thinking.
Those organisations who talk of “Not Crossing the Lakshman Rekha” are doing so for their personal benefits and bluffing the Indian Military Veterans.
Those Military Veterans, who are in position to help and make all ESM Organisations talk the same language must come forward now.
The Babus cannot sustain a joint onslaught by All Indian Military Veterans if we all speak the same language.
Yes all ESM Organisations are welcome to have their own banners and posters at the next rally of Indian Military Veterans – but we all must speak the same language.
We assure Indian Military Veterans, that IESM has done nothing in the past nor will it do anything in future, which is not in keeping with the Military Ethics.
So why talk of “Not Crossing the Lakshman Rekha” – you are bluffing the Indian Military Veterans for your personal benefits.
Dear Senior Indian Military Veterans – it is time for you to come forward and help and unite all ESM Organisations.
IT IS NOW OR NEVER
Vande Matram
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
(PS – The press release of the Standing Committee for Defence has been deliberately put before the email of Gen Satbir)
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Jai Hind.
The email from Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Vice Chairman IESM, and the enclosures received with it appended below, will make it very clear to you all that it is the efforts of IESM that Standing Committee on Defence has submitted two successive reports in favour of Indian Military Veterans.
Dear friends – it is time that those Indian Military Veterans, who had doubt about the success of IESM in its ops, to do serious rethinking.
If you are genuinely interested in getting justice for Indian Defence personnel – serving and retired, please come forward and support IESM whole heartedly
We also appeal to all the ESM Organisations, to stop the policy of pleasing the Babus and toeing their line of thinking.
Those organisations who talk of “Not Crossing the Lakshman Rekha” are doing so for their personal benefits and bluffing the Indian Military Veterans.
Those Military Veterans, who are in position to help and make all ESM Organisations talk the same language must come forward now.
The Babus cannot sustain a joint onslaught by All Indian Military Veterans if we all speak the same language.
Yes all ESM Organisations are welcome to have their own banners and posters at the next rally of Indian Military Veterans – but we all must speak the same language.
We assure Indian Military Veterans, that IESM has done nothing in the past nor will it do anything in future, which is not in keeping with the Military Ethics.
So why talk of “Not Crossing the Lakshman Rekha” – you are bluffing the Indian Military Veterans for your personal benefits.
Dear Senior Indian Military Veterans – it is time for you to come forward and help and unite all ESM Organisations.
IT IS NOW OR NEVER
Vande Matram
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
(PS – The press release of the Standing Committee for Defence has been deliberately put before the email of Gen Satbir)
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Friday, March 25, 2011
Understanding of One Rank One Pension by the Service Headquarters
In his exclusive interaction with the Asia Defence News Editor-in-Chief P N Khera, the AG, Lt Gen Mukesh Sabharwal, who looks every bit a tough combat commander, spoke from a golden heart about the memorable mission he was destined to perform.
Transcripts of Interview: ONE-RANK ONE-PENSION
PNK: There are great expectations about the soldier’s dream of one-rank one-pension coming true one day. What would be its impact on the morale of the soldiers when its is approved by the Government?
AG: The demand for grant of one-rank one-pension has been raised by the ex-Servicemen fraternity since the last few decades. Our main concern has been our JCOs and OR. About 80 to 90 per cent aspirations of JCOs and OR have been met to bring in uniformity in pension of people who retired earlier and who are retiring now. However, issue related to the officers is complex. It can simply be gauged from the fact that 30 years back pension was based on the pay drawn at that time. Now after 30 years pay bands of officers have changed drastically which has raised the complex issue of how do you equalize the two cases. Hence the case is being deliberated upon and it is hoped that government is going to take a pragmatic view on it. Ameliorating this demand is a constant endeavour of both Ministry of Defence and the Service Headquarters.
Asia Defence News- Interview with Adjutant General
Click here to read the full Interview- Resettlement, Rehabilitation, Welfare, Empowerment Projects and Strategy
PARLIAMENT RECOMMENDS PANEL FOR EX-SERVICEMEN
PARLIAMENT RECOMMENDS
PANEL FOR EX-SERVICEMEN
New Delhi | Mar 24, 2011
Stressing upon the "urgent need" to set up a national commission for ex-servicemen, a Parliamentary Committee today asked the Defence Ministry to expedite the matter.
The Standing Committee on Defence in its report said, "as there is apparent dissatisfaction among the ex-servicemen, the committee are of the strong view that there is an urgent need for setting up of a commission at the national level."
(Those Indian Military Veterans, who feel that efforts of IESM are not useful, need to re-examine their views – Chander Kamboj)
The committee also expressed "distress" that even after Defence Minister cleared the matter the Ministry has not done the needful to set up the body.
"The committee are distressed to note than even after getting clearance from Rakhsa Mantri for setting up of National Commission for ex-servicemen, the Ministry has declined to set up the Commission on the plea that number of bodies are existing to undertake the welfare schemes for ex-servicemen," the report said.
On the issue of One Rank One Pension (OROP) for ex-servicemen, the Committee reiterated that the proposal if met would boost morale of defence personnel.
"The Committee would like to reiterate their recommendation made in earlier report to reconsider the issue of OROP, so that the demand of ex-servicemen is met which would boost the morale of the defence personnel," the Committee said.
On Ministry's rejection of proposal to provide monthly stipend to National Defence Academy (NDA) cadets, the Committee said, "extending appropriate financial support during the training would help the cadets in meeting their daily expenses and would also boost their morale."
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THE END
PANEL FOR EX-SERVICEMEN
New Delhi | Mar 24, 2011
Stressing upon the "urgent need" to set up a national commission for ex-servicemen, a Parliamentary Committee today asked the Defence Ministry to expedite the matter.
The Standing Committee on Defence in its report said, "as there is apparent dissatisfaction among the ex-servicemen, the committee are of the strong view that there is an urgent need for setting up of a commission at the national level."
(Those Indian Military Veterans, who feel that efforts of IESM are not useful, need to re-examine their views – Chander Kamboj)
The committee also expressed "distress" that even after Defence Minister cleared the matter the Ministry has not done the needful to set up the body.
"The committee are distressed to note than even after getting clearance from Rakhsa Mantri for setting up of National Commission for ex-servicemen, the Ministry has declined to set up the Commission on the plea that number of bodies are existing to undertake the welfare schemes for ex-servicemen," the report said.
On the issue of One Rank One Pension (OROP) for ex-servicemen, the Committee reiterated that the proposal if met would boost morale of defence personnel.
"The Committee would like to reiterate their recommendation made in earlier report to reconsider the issue of OROP, so that the demand of ex-servicemen is met which would boost the morale of the defence personnel," the Committee said.
On Ministry's rejection of proposal to provide monthly stipend to National Defence Academy (NDA) cadets, the Committee said, "extending appropriate financial support during the training would help the cadets in meeting their daily expenses and would also boost their morale."
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THE END
Monday, March 21, 2011
ANNA HAZARE - MAJORITY OF ESM ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT THE ALL INDIA MOVEMENT AGAINST CORRUPTION
From: RSingh305@aol.com [mailto:RSingh305@aol.com]
Sent: 19 March 2011 05:59
To: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: Re: DEAR VETERANS TIME TO DEFEND THE COUNTRY ONCE AGAIN - THIS TIME FROM CORR...
Brig Kamboj, Sir,
We congratulate Anna Hazare for his commitment "unto death" that the Lok Pal Bill is correctly worded and implemented by the Government.
His life is as precious as that of the Supreme Commander or the Prime Minister In Waiting, Mr Rahul Gandhi, MP. Why should the rulers, the cabinet, the Clergy (i.e., "sadhus, sants, gurus, swamys & preachers"), the ex servicemen & women, and the whole nation watch the tragedy helplessly with apathy?
Higher powers have their own agenda and permanent interests. They have made a rich life of comfort and luxury for themselves and love status quo and inertia. They want none to "wake up the sleeping dogs" and they want nothing to"rock the boat". They will persist in their ways,
In the political climate, as "callous & corrupt" as in Bharat, they will be asking themselves the question, "Will two million citizens gather to protest in anger after his death?"
If the answer is "YES", they will take note and act quickly in order to save the Bhawan and Secretariate from going up in flames. Gandhiji was not sure of even half a million men gathering anywhere to back his cry for Akhand Bharat. So he did not undertake "fast unto death" even for the highest ideal of keeping India united!
63 years after Independence the "Sarkar" still seems to think of Anna Hazare what the British thought of Gandhiji.
Regards
RS Rajput
veteran (UK)
18 March 2011..
Sent: 19 March 2011 05:59
To: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: Re: DEAR VETERANS TIME TO DEFEND THE COUNTRY ONCE AGAIN - THIS TIME FROM CORR...
Brig Kamboj, Sir,
We congratulate Anna Hazare for his commitment "unto death" that the Lok Pal Bill is correctly worded and implemented by the Government.
His life is as precious as that of the Supreme Commander or the Prime Minister In Waiting, Mr Rahul Gandhi, MP. Why should the rulers, the cabinet, the Clergy (i.e., "sadhus, sants, gurus, swamys & preachers"), the ex servicemen & women, and the whole nation watch the tragedy helplessly with apathy?
Higher powers have their own agenda and permanent interests. They have made a rich life of comfort and luxury for themselves and love status quo and inertia. They want none to "wake up the sleeping dogs" and they want nothing to"rock the boat". They will persist in their ways,
In the political climate, as "callous & corrupt" as in Bharat, they will be asking themselves the question, "Will two million citizens gather to protest in anger after his death?"
If the answer is "YES", they will take note and act quickly in order to save the Bhawan and Secretariate from going up in flames. Gandhiji was not sure of even half a million men gathering anywhere to back his cry for Akhand Bharat. So he did not undertake "fast unto death" even for the highest ideal of keeping India united!
63 years after Independence the "Sarkar" still seems to think of Anna Hazare what the British thought of Gandhiji.
Regards
RS Rajput
veteran (UK)
18 March 2011..
Petition by Rajeev Chandrasekhar on Grant of One Rank, One Pension accepted by Petitions Committee of Parliament InboxX
Dear Members,
A self explanatory email received from the office of Mr Rajeev Chandrasekhar, MP by the President, NFDC, is reproduced below for your info please.
Also, it may be mentioned that findings of the committee will be only advisory and are not binding on the government
Warm regards
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Greetings.
We are pleased to inform you that the Petitions Committee of Parliament has accepted a Petition presented by Mr. Rajeev Chandrasekhar, Member of Parliament, on Grant of One Rank, One Pension to ex-servicemen and retired defense personnel. The Petition Committee will now meet to discuss the Petition and issue advertisements in leading news papers to seek comments and suggestions from public. The Committee will then consider all letters and suggestions received and take the matter of One Rank, One Pension for consideration. This Petition by Mr. Chandrasekhar is in continuation of his efforts for the resolution of One Rank, One Pension issue for the armed forces veterans and to address the sense of hurt, injustice and dishonour in the Armed Forces and bring parity in the pensionary benefits for the retired personnel of Armed Forces. We will alert you when the advertisements are issued so that you present your views to the Petitions Committee. Meanwhile, if you have any suggestions or comments you wish to make to the Petitions Committee, you are welcome to send the same to me or Mr. Sanjay Prabhu at sanjay.prabhu@radioindigo.in You are welcome to share your comments or feedback. Sincerely V.AnandPrincipal - Public Affairs,Office of Rajeev Chandrasekhar,Member of Parliament
A self explanatory email received from the office of Mr Rajeev Chandrasekhar, MP by the President, NFDC, is reproduced below for your info please.
Also, it may be mentioned that findings of the committee will be only advisory and are not binding on the government
Warm regards
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Greetings.
We are pleased to inform you that the Petitions Committee of Parliament has accepted a Petition presented by Mr. Rajeev Chandrasekhar, Member of Parliament, on Grant of One Rank, One Pension to ex-servicemen and retired defense personnel. The Petition Committee will now meet to discuss the Petition and issue advertisements in leading news papers to seek comments and suggestions from public. The Committee will then consider all letters and suggestions received and take the matter of One Rank, One Pension for consideration. This Petition by Mr. Chandrasekhar is in continuation of his efforts for the resolution of One Rank, One Pension issue for the armed forces veterans and to address the sense of hurt, injustice and dishonour in the Armed Forces and bring parity in the pensionary benefits for the retired personnel of Armed Forces. We will alert you when the advertisements are issued so that you present your views to the Petitions Committee. Meanwhile, if you have any suggestions or comments you wish to make to the Petitions Committee, you are welcome to send the same to me or Mr. Sanjay Prabhu at sanjay.prabhu@radioindigo.in You are welcome to share your comments or feedback. Sincerely V.AnandPrincipal - Public Affairs,Office of Rajeev Chandrasekhar,Member of Parliament
Get your Interest on late arrears
From: Suhas phatak [mailto:sushan1005@yahoo.com]
Sent: 20 March 2011 19:53
To: Ravindra Pathak
Cc: Pension Cell IESM
Subject: Interest for late arrears
Dear All,
Lt Col Anand Bhagwat who received his VIth Pay Commission arrears very late. According to my advice he had asked for interest and delivered letter to Chairman's Office of Bank of Maharashtra.
I received sms today that he has received Rs 43642.00 as interest credited to his account.
THATS GOOD NEWS.
Regards,
Gp capt SS Phatak(retd) (Member IESM Pension Division)
(Please speak to your friends who may have received their arrears late and advise them to claim interest for the delayed payment. In particular take care of widows, JCOs, NCOs and Jawans. Give wide publicity to this message. Thank you. – Chander Kamboj)
Sent: 20 March 2011 19:53
To: Ravindra Pathak
Cc: Pension Cell IESM
Subject: Interest for late arrears
Dear All,
Lt Col Anand Bhagwat who received his VIth Pay Commission arrears very late. According to my advice he had asked for interest and delivered letter to Chairman's Office of Bank of Maharashtra.
I received sms today that he has received Rs 43642.00 as interest credited to his account.
THATS GOOD NEWS.
Regards,
Gp capt SS Phatak(retd) (Member IESM Pension Division)
(Please speak to your friends who may have received their arrears late and advise them to claim interest for the delayed payment. In particular take care of widows, JCOs, NCOs and Jawans. Give wide publicity to this message. Thank you. – Chander Kamboj)
Wednesday, March 9, 2011
Rally 6 March comments by Col JL Chatterji
From: JLC [mailto:jaharc@rediffmail.com]
Sent: 07 March 2011 22:48
To: Report My Signal (Chander Kamboj)
Subject: Re: ESM SITREP 06 MAR 11 - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 094/2011 - 06 MAR 2011 (LIST-1)
Dear Brig Kamboj Sir,
I could not come to the 'Maha" rally on 6th Mar 2011 being down with severe broncho azma. I had kept all tour programs barring 6th Mar so that I could have joined the elite march.
Nevertheless, I am happy to learn the congregtion was so huge. I convey my strongest support for the cause we are fighting for and always wishing that the success should come fast.
Best regards.
Col JL CHATTERJI, Retd.
in Gurgaon
09312758709
Sent: 07 March 2011 22:48
To: Report My Signal (Chander Kamboj)
Subject: Re: ESM SITREP 06 MAR 11 - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 094/2011 - 06 MAR 2011 (LIST-1)
Dear Brig Kamboj Sir,
I could not come to the 'Maha" rally on 6th Mar 2011 being down with severe broncho azma. I had kept all tour programs barring 6th Mar so that I could have joined the elite march.
Nevertheless, I am happy to learn the congregtion was so huge. I convey my strongest support for the cause we are fighting for and always wishing that the success should come fast.
Best regards.
Col JL CHATTERJI, Retd.
in Gurgaon
09312758709
Rally 6 march comments by Lt Col DC Goyal
From: Dhanesh Chandra Goyal [mailto:dc.goyal@hotmail.com]
Sent: 07 March 2011 14:41
To: cs.kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: RE: VISHAL IESM RALLY-SOME INPUTS AND MORE PHOTOS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 095/2011 - 07 MAR 2011 (LIST-2)
Dear Brig Kambog,
Nice to know the sitrep about the rally. Compliments to all who arranged it and those attended it.
Lt Col D C Goyal
Jaipur+91 93515 14949
Sent: 07 March 2011 14:41
To: cs.kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: RE: VISHAL IESM RALLY-SOME INPUTS AND MORE PHOTOS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 095/2011 - 07 MAR 2011 (LIST-2)
Dear Brig Kambog,
Nice to know the sitrep about the rally. Compliments to all who arranged it and those attended it.
Lt Col D C Goyal
Jaipur+91 93515 14949
Rally 6 March comments by Col Anand
From: Col Anand [mailto:elkayanand@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 March 2011 11:13
To: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in; rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Cc:DELETED
Subject: Re: VISHAL IESM RALLY-SOME INPUTS AND MORE PHOTOS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 095/2011 - 07 MAR 2011 (LIST-1)
Respected Gen Kadyan Sir,
My heartiest congratulations to you, as well as all the members of the Governing Body, for having organised such a gigantic, impressive and highly effective Rally on 6 March 2011. I must also convey my sincerest gratitude and congratulations, on behalf of one and all in the State of MP, to all the participants who came from different corners of the country, to make the Rally a big show. I am very confident that this Rally would have created great impact, not only on those who could actually witness it or participated in it, but also, hopefully on the ruling government, who has so far turned deaf ears and Nelson's eye, towards the injustices being done to the defence veterans.
It would have given me great pleasure, if I could have actually participated in the Rally, though my mind, heart and soul were actually concentrating in that direction only. I was telling all my family members about the sacrifices which the veterans are doing for such a noble cause. I gave every body the first news about the Rally, which came out in the local paper this morning. I shall be sending you its scanned copy as soon as practicable.
Sir, as my contribution to the cause, I have put whatever information I have got, along with all the photographs received through "Report My Signal", on my blog "India of My Dreams" at www.indiamydreamland.blogspot.com for wider viewing and readership. I hope it would be able to spread the message of the IESM far and wide.
With kind regards to you and all organisers.
Col LK Anand Retd
Sent: 07 March 2011 11:13
To: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in; rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Cc:DELETED
Subject: Re: VISHAL IESM RALLY-SOME INPUTS AND MORE PHOTOS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 095/2011 - 07 MAR 2011 (LIST-1)
Respected Gen Kadyan Sir,
My heartiest congratulations to you, as well as all the members of the Governing Body, for having organised such a gigantic, impressive and highly effective Rally on 6 March 2011. I must also convey my sincerest gratitude and congratulations, on behalf of one and all in the State of MP, to all the participants who came from different corners of the country, to make the Rally a big show. I am very confident that this Rally would have created great impact, not only on those who could actually witness it or participated in it, but also, hopefully on the ruling government, who has so far turned deaf ears and Nelson's eye, towards the injustices being done to the defence veterans.
It would have given me great pleasure, if I could have actually participated in the Rally, though my mind, heart and soul were actually concentrating in that direction only. I was telling all my family members about the sacrifices which the veterans are doing for such a noble cause. I gave every body the first news about the Rally, which came out in the local paper this morning. I shall be sending you its scanned copy as soon as practicable.
Sir, as my contribution to the cause, I have put whatever information I have got, along with all the photographs received through "Report My Signal", on my blog "India of My Dreams" at www.indiamydreamland.blogspot.com for wider viewing and readership. I hope it would be able to spread the message of the IESM far and wide.
With kind regards to you and all organisers.
Col LK Anand Retd
Rally 6 March comments by Lt Col Subhash Kumar
From: Subhash Kumar
Dear Veteran Subhash Kumar,
Thank you for your good words. All those who attended the rally together made the event a success. Your enthusiasm for enrolment is laudable. Our member dealing with the subject is being requrested to have the forms made available to you, either through download or by sending you hard copies.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
To: rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Sent: Mon, 7 March, 2011 12:29:57 PM
Subject: I E S M RALLY
Dear Veterns
It gives me a great sense of PRIDE & SATISFACTION to Congratulate you & your TEAM for beautifully organizing the Rally.
Every one present at the venue was full of Positive Energy & spoke WELL of the ORG.The saying goes-----HUM HONGE KAMYAB __EK DIN .
To make our org. more vibrant , we all should take a Recruitment Drive at Individual level.We all existing Members be sent 10/15 Membership Forms
And each of us Iam sure will be able to enrole the given TARGET.I will request you to send me the form on my Res. Adds_----139 Rajdhani Enclave
Dist—Pitampura, DELHI---110034.Iam an existing member.
2. With regards to rally Iam of the VIEW that our Rally should MARCH up to AMAR JAWAN JYOTI&return from there.At A J JYOTI we should take a VOW to
Work for the betterment of our collegues by FIGHTING FOR INJUSTICE meted out to VETERNS.
Once again many many Congratulations.
With Warm Regards------Lt.Col.Subhash kumar.(Veteran)
Dear Veteran Subhash Kumar,
Thank you for your good words. All those who attended the rally together made the event a success. Your enthusiasm for enrolment is laudable. Our member dealing with the subject is being requrested to have the forms made available to you, either through download or by sending you hard copies.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
To: rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Sent: Mon, 7 March, 2011 12:29:57 PM
Subject: I E S M RALLY
Dear Veterns
It gives me a great sense of PRIDE & SATISFACTION to Congratulate you & your TEAM for beautifully organizing the Rally.
Every one present at the venue was full of Positive Energy & spoke WELL of the ORG.The saying goes-----HUM HONGE KAMYAB __EK DIN .
To make our org. more vibrant , we all should take a Recruitment Drive at Individual level.We all existing Members be sent 10/15 Membership Forms
And each of us Iam sure will be able to enrole the given TARGET.I will request you to send me the form on my Res. Adds_----139 Rajdhani Enclave
Dist—Pitampura, DELHI---110034.Iam an existing member.
2. With regards to rally Iam of the VIEW that our Rally should MARCH up to AMAR JAWAN JYOTI&return from there.At A J JYOTI we should take a VOW to
Work for the betterment of our collegues by FIGHTING FOR INJUSTICE meted out to VETERNS.
Once again many many Congratulations.
With Warm Regards------Lt.Col.Subhash kumar.(Veteran)
Thursday, March 3, 2011
SBI,Belapur..more pensions cases cleared by Gp Capt SS Phatak
Dear Ravi,
Following cases have been cleared after my visit to SBI,Belapur.:-
My Sangli visit cases:-
1-- 6272680-Hav B R Patil
2-- 1515637- Spr Shankar Patil
3 --4539275-Hav B M Kamble
4--6272089-Hav J C Patil
5--JC128164--Sub Shankar Patil
6--97389--PO SS Jagtap
All above cases may not be our members but Hav Lele from Sangli is getting their forms filled and sent to us shortly.
In addition other cases cleared are as follows:-
1-- 621119 Sgt TR Dake--Grtuity & DCRG paid
2--276013 Cpl DD Jangam
3--15378765--Naik N E Katake--ACP will be given with fresh PPO.NFA
4--143486--PORCI-M J Bhangade--PPO HO for action.
5--278996271--RBCT R D Gade--PPO for disability HO. Credit awaited.
6--Recruit K S Khaladkar--Pension revised to Rs 3500/-p.m.
7--2789440-Nk S M chaudhary--Pension +disability paid
8--15363503--NK S D Shembade-Pension revised
9--215614--Sgt E L Mali--Pension revised
10--113232--POR D Sandbhor--Pension revised.
11--638674--Sgt P M Govekar--Pension revised
12--144253--POME DP Mutkule--No revision reqd. twice represented.
13-- 662512--Sgt Kazi PD--Pension & disability revised.
14--2748840--D S Shinde--Pension & disability revised. Final PPO for broad banding awaited.
15--JC239634--Sub CV Pusadkar--Pension revised.
16--456311--Nk AK Gaikwad--post 2006 case -Correct pension fixed.
17--625714--AC S M Shaikh--Pension +disability revised.Broadbanding awaited.
18--14551110--HON NB SUB W C Samson--All arears paid on 30 Dec 10.
Cases listed from 7 to 10 above are from Rajguru Nagar and being HO to Air Cmde GT Joshi for membership if not made.
BRDGS,
Gp capt SS Phatak(retd)
Following cases have been cleared after my visit to SBI,Belapur.:-
My Sangli visit cases:-
1-- 6272680-Hav B R Patil
2-- 1515637- Spr Shankar Patil
3 --4539275-Hav B M Kamble
4--6272089-Hav J C Patil
5--JC128164--Sub Shankar Patil
6--97389--PO SS Jagtap
All above cases may not be our members but Hav Lele from Sangli is getting their forms filled and sent to us shortly.
In addition other cases cleared are as follows:-
1-- 621119 Sgt TR Dake--Grtuity & DCRG paid
2--276013 Cpl DD Jangam
3--15378765--Naik N E Katake--ACP will be given with fresh PPO.NFA
4--143486--PORCI-M J Bhangade--PPO HO for action.
5--278996271--RBCT R D Gade--PPO for disability HO. Credit awaited.
6--Recruit K S Khaladkar--Pension revised to Rs 3500/-p.m.
7--2789440-Nk S M chaudhary--Pension +disability paid
8--15363503--NK S D Shembade-Pension revised
9--215614--Sgt E L Mali--Pension revised
10--113232--POR D Sandbhor--Pension revised.
11--638674--Sgt P M Govekar--Pension revised
12--144253--POME DP Mutkule--No revision reqd. twice represented.
13-- 662512--Sgt Kazi PD--Pension & disability revised.
14--2748840--D S Shinde--Pension & disability revised. Final PPO for broad banding awaited.
15--JC239634--Sub CV Pusadkar--Pension revised.
16--456311--Nk AK Gaikwad--post 2006 case -Correct pension fixed.
17--625714--AC S M Shaikh--Pension +disability revised.Broadbanding awaited.
18--14551110--HON NB SUB W C Samson--All arears paid on 30 Dec 10.
Cases listed from 7 to 10 above are from Rajguru Nagar and being HO to Air Cmde GT Joshi for membership if not made.
BRDGS,
Gp capt SS Phatak(retd)
Support from Dehradun for 6th March Rally by Brig KG Behl
From: Kishan Gopal Behl
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (Chander Kamboj)
Cc: IESM GovBody-
Sent: Thu, 3 March, 2011 9:31:28 PM
Subject: From: Kishan Gopal Behl
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (Chander Kamboj)
Cc: IESM GovBody-
Sent: Thu, 3 March, 2011 9:31:28 PM
Subject: Support from Dehradun for 6th March Rally
Daear Chander,
In response to your personal appeal through
Email dated , the following donations were made. by Ex
Servicemen and some supporters in Dehradun in support of the cause.
1. Deposited on 23 Feb in Dehradun HDSF A/C NO. 06162000001330 of
IESM in the name of Mrs KAMAL BEHL
Rs.15000.00 (Cash)
2. Air Marshal B.D.Jayal, PVSM,AVSM,VM (Sent Cheque) Rs. 1000.00
3.Lt Gen G.S.Negi PVSM,AVSM,VSM '' Rs. 1000.00
4. Lt Gen Y.S.Tomar ""
Rs.1000.00
5. Maj Gen C. Nandwani, VSM ""
Rs. 2100 00
6. Maj Gen P.Dutt AVSM,VSM ""
Rs. 1000.00
7. Air Comdr. A. Goswami ( PNB DDUN Cheue NO.966873
DT 03 03 2011 in favour of HDFC ,IESM A/C 06162000001330
"deposited on 03 03 12011
Rs. 5000.00
8. Mr. Pradeep Datta ( Deposited on 3/3 cash)
Rs. 2000.00
9. Brig P.S.Gurung YSM ( Deposited cash on 3/3) Rs. 2000.00
10. CPO Dr. B.K.Nautiyal ( Deposited Cash on3/3) Rs.1000.00
11. Lt col 'B.M.Thapa (Sent earlier)
Rs.1000.00
12. Lt Col B.S.Kshetri ( Daeposited cash on 3/3)
Rs.1001.00
We held officers contributory lunch on 26th Feb and requested all to
contribute as they would like to and we are yet to know how much
further they have sent The Report of the function is enclosed where
many points have been covered besides Rally at Delhi. You may like to
circulate it to others for information.
We wish the rally on 6th March at Delhi a great success.
Regards
Brig BEHL
VETERANS CONTRIBUTORY LUNCH HELD ON 26 FEB AT D S O I IN GAY MOOD
Inspite of the inclement weather a large number of officers and
families turned out for Ex Services contributory Officers lunch held
in DSOI. Though arrangements were made in the hall and verandah but
as the Sunshine appeared every one came to the beautiful lawns to
enjoy with their drinks which were sponsored by veteran Lt Col
S.K.Makin, Engrs, CMD Makin Assocites, Dehradun. Maj Gen Ranvir
Yadav,VSM, GOC Uttarakhand Sub Area was the chief guest. Maj Gen
S.Choaudhuri, Comdr 501 FSEG, Brig A K Verma, Comdt. MH., Col
D S Punia, Col V M Chauoudhari, Lt Col O P Chhabra were the honoured guests
Prominent among those who attended were, Lt Gen M.S.Gosain, Lt Gen
Anand Swaroop MVC, Vice Admiral V.Koppikar, Lt Gen V.K.Sharma, Lt Gen
G.S.Negi, Maj Gen B.C.Khanduri, Former CM, Uttarakhand, Maj Gen
Shamsher Singh,MVC ,Maj Gen S.R. Bahuguna, Maj Gen P.Dutt, Maj Gen O P
Sabarwal, SM, Maj Gen Lal Ji D Singh, Maj Gen M M Verma,Air Commodore
A. Goswami, All Brigadiers N.C.Mehra, B.Kapoor, Vijay Kumar, B M
Verma, Vinai Rai, H C Marwah, H C Joshi, PKulkarni,Wg Cdr M
Trevwdi,Cols S S Thapa, M S Rawat,
R S Negi, U S Thakur, R S Thapa, D M Rai, S Kapoor , Capt M G Singh
& many others.
Lt Col B.M.Thapa, General Secretary, DESL, Lt Col A.S.Arya, Vice
President DESL, Lt Col B.S.Chhetri, Snr Vice President DESL, looked
after all the arrangements. ASC Jazz Band was in attendance and
entertained
all. Shri Kailash Prasad took the snaps.
Before going for lunch it is a practice that a light talk apprising
all about the latest happenings, called ‘Pep Talk’, which serves as an
mappetizer, is delivered for better assimilation of food. Brig
K.G.Behl, President DESL, gave all the details, copies of which were
circulated and cheered all with some latest jokes. The talk included:
1.Rank Pay of Officers- Case in Supreme Court It is learnt that the
case came up for hearing on 24 Feb 2011 in the Court of Justice Shri
Aftab Alam & Justice Shri RM Lodha (Court No 12). There were partial
arguments on the pay fixation done as per IV
Pay Commission. The court has asked UOI to file an affidavit on the
pay fixation of civilian officers who were drawing the same basic pay
as that of army officers at the time of IV Pay commission. The next
date of hearing has been fixed as 08 Mar 2011.
2.Modified Parity for Casualty awards. The letter on modified parity
for casualty awards has finally been issued. Casualty awards from now
onwards are to be calculated based on 6th CPC scales.
In brief, this shall be the fresh entitlement with effect from 01-01-2006 :
Special Family Pension : Would not be less than 60% of minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) corresponding to the rank held.
Liberalized Family Pension : Would not be less than the (100% of)
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable).
Disability Element : Would not be less than 30% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability, proportionately reduced for
lesser disability.
War Injury Element : Would not be less than 60% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately reduced for
lesser disability in cases of retirement / discharge and 100% of the
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately
reduced for lesser disability in cases of invalidment.
Some more categories have been added in death due to snake bite,
unintentional killing by own troops, accidental deaths due to natural
calamity, electrocution, and accidents while performing duties in
operational areas. MOD letter n dated 03 Feb 2011.
3. One Rank One Pension (OROP)
In one of his talks the Army Chief has stated that OROP, so far
as JCO’s and Ors are concerned is almost through but the recent reply
sent by Jt. Secretary Pension who has replied on 11.02.2011 to Lt Gen
S.K.BahriPVSM(Retd) that a committee under the chairmanship of
Cabinet Secretary was set up to look into the demand of OROP and
related issues. Although the committee did not recommend OROP but
substantial improvement in the pension of commissioned officers and
JCOs and Ors have been made recommended. All orders implementing the
recommendations of the committee have been issued vide MOD’s letters
dated 30.10.2009, 19 01 2010, 21 01 2010 and 08 03 2010.
The above letters, so far as JCOs ,Ors are concerned have
merely removed the disparity existing between various classification
pays and made pensions better but not near OROP. This is where
agitation of Ex Servicemen is continuing at Delhi where they are
planning to hold a big Rally on 06 03 2011 and have requested support
from Ex Servicemen all over the country. Those who wish can contribute
to the cause.
4. Welfare Measures by not setting up commission ordered by the Supreme Court.
In one of the cases in Supreme Court the restoration of some one's
dues after more than four decades, has been described as welfare
measure and have the guts to tell the Hon'ble Supreme Court, through
Attorney General of India that they restored pension of Rs
75/- sanctioned to the family of a Major who died in 1967, to Rs
18000/-. Surprisingly the Court did not ask them why it took them so
many years to give justice if it was a welfare measure taken by them.
They did it ,not as a welfare measure, but when they were cornered to
do that through ESM organisations and courts. Their contention that
'a proper mechanism is being evolved to address the grievances of
ex-service personnel at their "doorsteps", and Government was fully
concerned with the welfare of the armed forces and greatly valued
their contribution to the nation and there was no need at the moment
for setting up any separate commission to address the problems of
ex-servicemen as the defense
department has a separate welfare wings at the district level to
tackle the grievances appears a farce.
It is just an eye wash and cannot be believed as so many cases
reported to them long back are still to see the light of the day as
those are the real Welfare measures which need to be resolved. A
welfare measure is that, when action is taken suo moto as and when
any matter is either seen or reported against certain laid down rules,
where welfare of other Defence Forces is being jeopardised. But
nothing of the sort is being done by the welfare directorates of the
MOD and rather the cases already decided by the courts are either
being delayed or twisted to
the disadvantage of the Defence Personnel. It will be a misnomer to
call these welfare measures.
Surprisingly even the PCDA(P) Allahabad, whom those
irregularities were pointed out, expressed their helplessness as it was
a matter of Policy which only MOD can decide. Was It not their duty
,as auditors of Defence Accounts, to bring it to the notice of MOD and
get the orders amended, When nothing came out the Comptroller and
Auditor General was approached to find out why their auditors cannot
detect the glaring anomalies and get those rectified which are later
pointed out by Courts in a long drawn process and by the time
judgments are implemented some of the beneficiaries leave this world.
Who is looking after the welfare of the Defence personnel?
Even judgments of the Supreme Court, when
quoted, are not being implemented and same is the plight of the
Judgments of the Armed Forces Tribunal. Heavens are not going to fall
even if the Commission suggested by the Hon'ble Supreme Court is
constituted by the Govt. Though it has not been given any powers but
may only expedite in waking up authorities and prompt them to take
quick remedial action. They are scared to constitute above commission
because ,unlike Govt. committees, the aggrieved persons will be
feeding them directly and not MOD who had been feeding earlier
committees with data they wanted to project and not what was required.
Those who drew less lumpsum gratuity after 1.1.2006 on retirement
can draw up 3 to 41 to 43% as per latest rules.
Use of word - PBOR AHQ letter No.13048/SD- 1B dated 30 Dec. 2010
The issue has been considered at the IHQ of MoD(Army). It has been
decided that the acronym PBOR will not be used, instead JCOs & ORs
will be used in all letters/Comns.
Purchase of vehicles through CSD
The case for removing all limitations on such vehicles is being
processed and it has been promised by the CM that all those will be
removed to bring those at par with other States.
Allotment of land for State War Memorial has been taken up with Army
Comdr during his recent visit. Plan to hold a big rally during the
year has also been mooted.
We appreciate the efforts of Maj Gen Ranvir Yadav,VSM, GOC
Uttarakhand Sub Area for taking up actions to improve facilities in
CSD, ECHS and taking up other welfare activities.
Daear Chander,
In response to your personal appeal through
Email dated , the following donations were made. by Ex
Servicemen and some supporters in Dehradun in support of the cause.
1. Deposited on 23 Feb in Dehradun HDSF A/C NO. 06162000001330 of
IESM in the name of Mrs KAMAL BEHL
Rs.15000.00 (Cash)
2. Air Marshal B.D.Jayal, PVSM,AVSM,VM (Sent Cheque) Rs. 1000.00
3.Lt Gen G.S.Negi PVSM,AVSM,VSM '' Rs. 1000.00
4. Lt Gen Y.S.Tomar ""
Rs.1000.00
5. Maj Gen C. Nandwani, VSM ""
Rs. 2100 00
6. Maj Gen P.Dutt AVSM,VSM ""
Rs. 1000.00
7. Air Comdr. A. Goswami ( PNB DDUN Cheue NO.966873
DT 03 03 2011 in favour of HDFC ,IESM A/C 06162000001330
"deposited on 03 03 12011
Rs. 5000.00
8. Mr. Pradeep Datta ( Deposited on 3/3 cash)
Rs. 2000.00
9. Brig P.S.Gurung YSM ( Deposited cash on 3/3) Rs. 2000.00
10. CPO Dr. B.K.Nautiyal ( Deposited Cash on3/3) Rs.1000.00
11. Lt col 'B.M.Thapa (Sent earlier)
Rs.1000.00
12. Lt Col B.S.Kshetri ( Daeposited cash on 3/3)
Rs.1001.00
We held officers contributory lunch on 26th Feb and requested all to
contribute as they would like to and we are yet to know how much
further they have sent The Report of the function is enclosed where
many points have been covered besides Rally at Delhi. You may like to
circulate it to others for information.
We wish the rally on 6th March at Delhi a great success.
Regards
Brig BEHL
VETERANS CONTRIBUTORY LUNCH HELD ON 26 FEB AT D S O I IN GAY MOOD
Inspite of the inclement weather a large number of officers and
families turned out for Ex Services contributory Officers lunch held
in DSOI. Though arrangements were made in the hall and verandah but
as the Sunshine appeared every one came to the beautiful lawns to
enjoy with their drinks which were sponsored by veteran Lt Col
S.K.Makin, Engrs, CMD Makin Assocites, Dehradun. Maj Gen Ranvir
Yadav,VSM, GOC Uttarakhand Sub Area was the chief guest. Maj Gen
S.Choaudhuri, Comdr 501 FSEG, Brig A K Verma, Comdt. MH., Col
D S Punia, Col V M Chauoudhari, Lt Col O P Chhabra were the honoured guests
Prominent among those who attended were, Lt Gen M.S.Gosain, Lt Gen
Anand Swaroop MVC, Vice Admiral V.Koppikar, Lt Gen V.K.Sharma, Lt Gen
G.S.Negi, Maj Gen B.C.Khanduri, Former CM, Uttarakhand, Maj Gen
Shamsher Singh,MVC ,Maj Gen S.R. Bahuguna, Maj Gen P.Dutt, Maj Gen O P
Sabarwal, SM, Maj Gen Lal Ji D Singh, Maj Gen M M Verma,Air Commodore
A. Goswami, All Brigadiers N.C.Mehra, B.Kapoor, Vijay Kumar, B M
Verma, Vinai Rai, H C Marwah, H C Joshi, PKulkarni,Wg Cdr M
Trevwdi,Cols S S Thapa, M S Rawat,
R S Negi, U S Thakur, R S Thapa, D M Rai, S Kapoor , Capt M G Singh
& many others.
Lt Col B.M.Thapa, General Secretary, DESL, Lt Col A.S.Arya, Vice
President DESL, Lt Col B.S.Chhetri, Snr Vice President DESL, looked
after all the arrangements. ASC Jazz Band was in attendance and
entertained
all. Shri Kailash Prasad took the snaps.
Before going for lunch it is a practice that a light talk apprising
all about the latest happenings, called ‘Pep Talk’, which serves as an
mappetizer, is delivered for better assimilation of food. Brig
K.G.Behl, President DESL, gave all the details, copies of which were
circulated and cheered all with some latest jokes. The talk included:
1.Rank Pay of Officers- Case in Supreme Court It is learnt that the
case came up for hearing on 24 Feb 2011 in the Court of Justice Shri
Aftab Alam & Justice Shri RM Lodha (Court No 12). There were partial
arguments on the pay fixation done as per IV
Pay Commission. The court has asked UOI to file an affidavit on the
pay fixation of civilian officers who were drawing the same basic pay
as that of army officers at the time of IV Pay commission. The next
date of hearing has been fixed as 08 Mar 2011.
2.Modified Parity for Casualty awards. The letter on modified parity
for casualty awards has finally been issued. Casualty awards from now
onwards are to be calculated based on 6th CPC scales.
In brief, this shall be the fresh entitlement with effect from 01-01-2006 :
Special Family Pension : Would not be less than 60% of minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) corresponding to the rank held.
Liberalized Family Pension : Would not be less than the (100% of)
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable).
Disability Element : Would not be less than 30% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability, proportionately reduced for
lesser disability.
War Injury Element : Would not be less than 60% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately reduced for
lesser disability in cases of retirement / discharge and 100% of the
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately
reduced for lesser disability in cases of invalidment.
Some more categories have been added in death due to snake bite,
unintentional killing by own troops, accidental deaths due to natural
calamity, electrocution, and accidents while performing duties in
operational areas. MOD letter n dated 03 Feb 2011.
3. One Rank One Pension (OROP)
In one of his talks the Army Chief has stated that OROP, so far
as JCO’s and Ors are concerned is almost through but the recent reply
sent by Jt. Secretary Pension who has replied on 11.02.2011 to Lt Gen
S.K.BahriPVSM(Retd) that a committee under the chairmanship of
Cabinet Secretary was set up to look into the demand of OROP and
related issues. Although the committee did not recommend OROP but
substantial improvement in the pension of commissioned officers and
JCOs and Ors have been made recommended. All orders implementing the
recommendations of the committee have been issued vide MOD’s letters
dated 30.10.2009, 19 01 2010, 21 01 2010 and 08 03 2010.
The above letters, so far as JCOs ,Ors are concerned have
merely removed the disparity existing between various classification
pays and made pensions better but not near OROP. This is where
agitation of Ex Servicemen is continuing at Delhi where they are
planning to hold a big Rally on 06 03 2011 and have requested support
from Ex Servicemen all over the country. Those who wish can contribute
to the cause.
4. Welfare Measures by not setting up commission ordered by the Supreme Court.
In one of the cases in Supreme Court the restoration of some one's
dues after more than four decades, has been described as welfare
measure and have the guts to tell the Hon'ble Supreme Court, through
Attorney General of India that they restored pension of Rs
75/- sanctioned to the family of a Major who died in 1967, to Rs
18000/-. Surprisingly the Court did not ask them why it took them so
many years to give justice if it was a welfare measure taken by them.
They did it ,not as a welfare measure, but when they were cornered to
do that through ESM organisations and courts. Their contention that
'a proper mechanism is being evolved to address the grievances of
ex-service personnel at their "doorsteps", and Government was fully
concerned with the welfare of the armed forces and greatly valued
their contribution to the nation and there was no need at the moment
for setting up any separate commission to address the problems of
ex-servicemen as the defense
department has a separate welfare wings at the district level to
tackle the grievances appears a farce.
It is just an eye wash and cannot be believed as so many cases
reported to them long back are still to see the light of the day as
those are the real Welfare measures which need to be resolved. A
welfare measure is that, when action is taken suo moto as and when
any matter is either seen or reported against certain laid down rules,
where welfare of other Defence Forces is being jeopardised. But
nothing of the sort is being done by the welfare directorates of the
MOD and rather the cases already decided by the courts are either
being delayed or twisted to
the disadvantage of the Defence Personnel. It will be a misnomer to
call these welfare measures.
Surprisingly even the PCDA(P) Allahabad, whom those
irregularities were pointed out, expressed their helplessness as it was
a matter of Policy which only MOD can decide. Was It not their duty
,as auditors of Defence Accounts, to bring it to the notice of MOD and
get the orders amended, When nothing came out the Comptroller and
Auditor General was approached to find out why their auditors cannot
detect the glaring anomalies and get those rectified which are later
pointed out by Courts in a long drawn process and by the time
judgments are implemented some of the beneficiaries leave this world.
Who is looking after the welfare of the Defence personnel?
Even judgments of the Supreme Court, when
quoted, are not being implemented and same is the plight of the
Judgments of the Armed Forces Tribunal. Heavens are not going to fall
even if the Commission suggested by the Hon'ble Supreme Court is
constituted by the Govt. Though it has not been given any powers but
may only expedite in waking up authorities and prompt them to take
quick remedial action. They are scared to constitute above commission
because ,unlike Govt. committees, the aggrieved persons will be
feeding them directly and not MOD who had been feeding earlier
committees with data they wanted to project and not what was required.
Those who drew less lumpsum gratuity after 1.1.2006 on retirement
can draw up 3 to 41 to 43% as per latest rules.
Use of word - PBOR AHQ letter No.13048/SD- 1B dated 30 Dec. 2010
The issue has been considered at the IHQ of MoD(Army). It has been
decided that the acronym PBOR will not be used, instead JCOs & ORs
will be used in all letters/Comns.
Purchase of vehicles through CSD
The case for removing all limitations on such vehicles is being
processed and it has been promised by the CM that all those will be
removed to bring those at par with other States.
Allotment of land for State War Memorial has been taken up with Army
Comdr during his recent visit. Plan to hold a big rally during the
year has also been mooted.
We appreciate the efforts of Maj Gen Ranvir Yadav,VSM, GOC
Uttarakhand Sub Area for taking up actions to improve facilities in
CSD, ECHS and taking up other welfare activities.
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (Chander Kamboj)
Cc: IESM GovBody-
Sent: Thu, 3 March, 2011 9:31:28 PM
Subject: From: Kishan Gopal Behl
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (Chander Kamboj)
Cc: IESM GovBody-
Sent: Thu, 3 March, 2011 9:31:28 PM
Subject: Support from Dehradun for 6th March Rally
Daear Chander,
In response to your personal appeal through
Email dated , the following donations were made. by Ex
Servicemen and some supporters in Dehradun in support of the cause.
1. Deposited on 23 Feb in Dehradun HDSF A/C NO. 06162000001330 of
IESM in the name of Mrs KAMAL BEHL
Rs.15000.00 (Cash)
2. Air Marshal B.D.Jayal, PVSM,AVSM,VM (Sent Cheque) Rs. 1000.00
3.Lt Gen G.S.Negi PVSM,AVSM,VSM '' Rs. 1000.00
4. Lt Gen Y.S.Tomar ""
Rs.1000.00
5. Maj Gen C. Nandwani, VSM ""
Rs. 2100 00
6. Maj Gen P.Dutt AVSM,VSM ""
Rs. 1000.00
7. Air Comdr. A. Goswami ( PNB DDUN Cheue NO.966873
DT 03 03 2011 in favour of HDFC ,IESM A/C 06162000001330
"deposited on 03 03 12011
Rs. 5000.00
8. Mr. Pradeep Datta ( Deposited on 3/3 cash)
Rs. 2000.00
9. Brig P.S.Gurung YSM ( Deposited cash on 3/3) Rs. 2000.00
10. CPO Dr. B.K.Nautiyal ( Deposited Cash on3/3) Rs.1000.00
11. Lt col 'B.M.Thapa (Sent earlier)
Rs.1000.00
12. Lt Col B.S.Kshetri ( Daeposited cash on 3/3)
Rs.1001.00
We held officers contributory lunch on 26th Feb and requested all to
contribute as they would like to and we are yet to know how much
further they have sent The Report of the function is enclosed where
many points have been covered besides Rally at Delhi. You may like to
circulate it to others for information.
We wish the rally on 6th March at Delhi a great success.
Regards
Brig BEHL
VETERANS CONTRIBUTORY LUNCH HELD ON 26 FEB AT D S O I IN GAY MOOD
Inspite of the inclement weather a large number of officers and
families turned out for Ex Services contributory Officers lunch held
in DSOI. Though arrangements were made in the hall and verandah but
as the Sunshine appeared every one came to the beautiful lawns to
enjoy with their drinks which were sponsored by veteran Lt Col
S.K.Makin, Engrs, CMD Makin Assocites, Dehradun. Maj Gen Ranvir
Yadav,VSM, GOC Uttarakhand Sub Area was the chief guest. Maj Gen
S.Choaudhuri, Comdr 501 FSEG, Brig A K Verma, Comdt. MH., Col
D S Punia, Col V M Chauoudhari, Lt Col O P Chhabra were the honoured guests
Prominent among those who attended were, Lt Gen M.S.Gosain, Lt Gen
Anand Swaroop MVC, Vice Admiral V.Koppikar, Lt Gen V.K.Sharma, Lt Gen
G.S.Negi, Maj Gen B.C.Khanduri, Former CM, Uttarakhand, Maj Gen
Shamsher Singh,MVC ,Maj Gen S.R. Bahuguna, Maj Gen P.Dutt, Maj Gen O P
Sabarwal, SM, Maj Gen Lal Ji D Singh, Maj Gen M M Verma,Air Commodore
A. Goswami, All Brigadiers N.C.Mehra, B.Kapoor, Vijay Kumar, B M
Verma, Vinai Rai, H C Marwah, H C Joshi, PKulkarni,Wg Cdr M
Trevwdi,Cols S S Thapa, M S Rawat,
R S Negi, U S Thakur, R S Thapa, D M Rai, S Kapoor , Capt M G Singh
& many others.
Lt Col B.M.Thapa, General Secretary, DESL, Lt Col A.S.Arya, Vice
President DESL, Lt Col B.S.Chhetri, Snr Vice President DESL, looked
after all the arrangements. ASC Jazz Band was in attendance and
entertained
all. Shri Kailash Prasad took the snaps.
Before going for lunch it is a practice that a light talk apprising
all about the latest happenings, called ‘Pep Talk’, which serves as an
mappetizer, is delivered for better assimilation of food. Brig
K.G.Behl, President DESL, gave all the details, copies of which were
circulated and cheered all with some latest jokes. The talk included:
1.Rank Pay of Officers- Case in Supreme Court It is learnt that the
case came up for hearing on 24 Feb 2011 in the Court of Justice Shri
Aftab Alam & Justice Shri RM Lodha (Court No 12). There were partial
arguments on the pay fixation done as per IV
Pay Commission. The court has asked UOI to file an affidavit on the
pay fixation of civilian officers who were drawing the same basic pay
as that of army officers at the time of IV Pay commission. The next
date of hearing has been fixed as 08 Mar 2011.
2.Modified Parity for Casualty awards. The letter on modified parity
for casualty awards has finally been issued. Casualty awards from now
onwards are to be calculated based on 6th CPC scales.
In brief, this shall be the fresh entitlement with effect from 01-01-2006 :
Special Family Pension : Would not be less than 60% of minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) corresponding to the rank held.
Liberalized Family Pension : Would not be less than the (100% of)
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable).
Disability Element : Would not be less than 30% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability, proportionately reduced for
lesser disability.
War Injury Element : Would not be less than 60% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately reduced for
lesser disability in cases of retirement / discharge and 100% of the
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately
reduced for lesser disability in cases of invalidment.
Some more categories have been added in death due to snake bite,
unintentional killing by own troops, accidental deaths due to natural
calamity, electrocution, and accidents while performing duties in
operational areas. MOD letter n dated 03 Feb 2011.
3. One Rank One Pension (OROP)
In one of his talks the Army Chief has stated that OROP, so far
as JCO’s and Ors are concerned is almost through but the recent reply
sent by Jt. Secretary Pension who has replied on 11.02.2011 to Lt Gen
S.K.BahriPVSM(Retd) that a committee under the chairmanship of
Cabinet Secretary was set up to look into the demand of OROP and
related issues. Although the committee did not recommend OROP but
substantial improvement in the pension of commissioned officers and
JCOs and Ors have been made recommended. All orders implementing the
recommendations of the committee have been issued vide MOD’s letters
dated 30.10.2009, 19 01 2010, 21 01 2010 and 08 03 2010.
The above letters, so far as JCOs ,Ors are concerned have
merely removed the disparity existing between various classification
pays and made pensions better but not near OROP. This is where
agitation of Ex Servicemen is continuing at Delhi where they are
planning to hold a big Rally on 06 03 2011 and have requested support
from Ex Servicemen all over the country. Those who wish can contribute
to the cause.
4. Welfare Measures by not setting up commission ordered by the Supreme Court.
In one of the cases in Supreme Court the restoration of some one's
dues after more than four decades, has been described as welfare
measure and have the guts to tell the Hon'ble Supreme Court, through
Attorney General of India that they restored pension of Rs
75/- sanctioned to the family of a Major who died in 1967, to Rs
18000/-. Surprisingly the Court did not ask them why it took them so
many years to give justice if it was a welfare measure taken by them.
They did it ,not as a welfare measure, but when they were cornered to
do that through ESM organisations and courts. Their contention that
'a proper mechanism is being evolved to address the grievances of
ex-service personnel at their "doorsteps", and Government was fully
concerned with the welfare of the armed forces and greatly valued
their contribution to the nation and there was no need at the moment
for setting up any separate commission to address the problems of
ex-servicemen as the defense
department has a separate welfare wings at the district level to
tackle the grievances appears a farce.
It is just an eye wash and cannot be believed as so many cases
reported to them long back are still to see the light of the day as
those are the real Welfare measures which need to be resolved. A
welfare measure is that, when action is taken suo moto as and when
any matter is either seen or reported against certain laid down rules,
where welfare of other Defence Forces is being jeopardised. But
nothing of the sort is being done by the welfare directorates of the
MOD and rather the cases already decided by the courts are either
being delayed or twisted to
the disadvantage of the Defence Personnel. It will be a misnomer to
call these welfare measures.
Surprisingly even the PCDA(P) Allahabad, whom those
irregularities were pointed out, expressed their helplessness as it was
a matter of Policy which only MOD can decide. Was It not their duty
,as auditors of Defence Accounts, to bring it to the notice of MOD and
get the orders amended, When nothing came out the Comptroller and
Auditor General was approached to find out why their auditors cannot
detect the glaring anomalies and get those rectified which are later
pointed out by Courts in a long drawn process and by the time
judgments are implemented some of the beneficiaries leave this world.
Who is looking after the welfare of the Defence personnel?
Even judgments of the Supreme Court, when
quoted, are not being implemented and same is the plight of the
Judgments of the Armed Forces Tribunal. Heavens are not going to fall
even if the Commission suggested by the Hon'ble Supreme Court is
constituted by the Govt. Though it has not been given any powers but
may only expedite in waking up authorities and prompt them to take
quick remedial action. They are scared to constitute above commission
because ,unlike Govt. committees, the aggrieved persons will be
feeding them directly and not MOD who had been feeding earlier
committees with data they wanted to project and not what was required.
Those who drew less lumpsum gratuity after 1.1.2006 on retirement
can draw up 3 to 41 to 43% as per latest rules.
Use of word - PBOR AHQ letter No.13048/SD- 1B dated 30 Dec. 2010
The issue has been considered at the IHQ of MoD(Army). It has been
decided that the acronym PBOR will not be used, instead JCOs & ORs
will be used in all letters/Comns.
Purchase of vehicles through CSD
The case for removing all limitations on such vehicles is being
processed and it has been promised by the CM that all those will be
removed to bring those at par with other States.
Allotment of land for State War Memorial has been taken up with Army
Comdr during his recent visit. Plan to hold a big rally during the
year has also been mooted.
We appreciate the efforts of Maj Gen Ranvir Yadav,VSM, GOC
Uttarakhand Sub Area for taking up actions to improve facilities in
CSD, ECHS and taking up other welfare activities.
Daear Chander,
In response to your personal appeal through
Email dated , the following donations were made. by Ex
Servicemen and some supporters in Dehradun in support of the cause.
1. Deposited on 23 Feb in Dehradun HDSF A/C NO. 06162000001330 of
IESM in the name of Mrs KAMAL BEHL
Rs.15000.00 (Cash)
2. Air Marshal B.D.Jayal, PVSM,AVSM,VM (Sent Cheque) Rs. 1000.00
3.Lt Gen G.S.Negi PVSM,AVSM,VSM '' Rs. 1000.00
4. Lt Gen Y.S.Tomar ""
Rs.1000.00
5. Maj Gen C. Nandwani, VSM ""
Rs. 2100 00
6. Maj Gen P.Dutt AVSM,VSM ""
Rs. 1000.00
7. Air Comdr. A. Goswami ( PNB DDUN Cheue NO.966873
DT 03 03 2011 in favour of HDFC ,IESM A/C 06162000001330
"deposited on 03 03 12011
Rs. 5000.00
8. Mr. Pradeep Datta ( Deposited on 3/3 cash)
Rs. 2000.00
9. Brig P.S.Gurung YSM ( Deposited cash on 3/3) Rs. 2000.00
10. CPO Dr. B.K.Nautiyal ( Deposited Cash on3/3) Rs.1000.00
11. Lt col 'B.M.Thapa (Sent earlier)
Rs.1000.00
12. Lt Col B.S.Kshetri ( Daeposited cash on 3/3)
Rs.1001.00
We held officers contributory lunch on 26th Feb and requested all to
contribute as they would like to and we are yet to know how much
further they have sent The Report of the function is enclosed where
many points have been covered besides Rally at Delhi. You may like to
circulate it to others for information.
We wish the rally on 6th March at Delhi a great success.
Regards
Brig BEHL
VETERANS CONTRIBUTORY LUNCH HELD ON 26 FEB AT D S O I IN GAY MOOD
Inspite of the inclement weather a large number of officers and
families turned out for Ex Services contributory Officers lunch held
in DSOI. Though arrangements were made in the hall and verandah but
as the Sunshine appeared every one came to the beautiful lawns to
enjoy with their drinks which were sponsored by veteran Lt Col
S.K.Makin, Engrs, CMD Makin Assocites, Dehradun. Maj Gen Ranvir
Yadav,VSM, GOC Uttarakhand Sub Area was the chief guest. Maj Gen
S.Choaudhuri, Comdr 501 FSEG, Brig A K Verma, Comdt. MH., Col
D S Punia, Col V M Chauoudhari, Lt Col O P Chhabra were the honoured guests
Prominent among those who attended were, Lt Gen M.S.Gosain, Lt Gen
Anand Swaroop MVC, Vice Admiral V.Koppikar, Lt Gen V.K.Sharma, Lt Gen
G.S.Negi, Maj Gen B.C.Khanduri, Former CM, Uttarakhand, Maj Gen
Shamsher Singh,MVC ,Maj Gen S.R. Bahuguna, Maj Gen P.Dutt, Maj Gen O P
Sabarwal, SM, Maj Gen Lal Ji D Singh, Maj Gen M M Verma,Air Commodore
A. Goswami, All Brigadiers N.C.Mehra, B.Kapoor, Vijay Kumar, B M
Verma, Vinai Rai, H C Marwah, H C Joshi, PKulkarni,Wg Cdr M
Trevwdi,Cols S S Thapa, M S Rawat,
R S Negi, U S Thakur, R S Thapa, D M Rai, S Kapoor , Capt M G Singh
& many others.
Lt Col B.M.Thapa, General Secretary, DESL, Lt Col A.S.Arya, Vice
President DESL, Lt Col B.S.Chhetri, Snr Vice President DESL, looked
after all the arrangements. ASC Jazz Band was in attendance and
entertained
all. Shri Kailash Prasad took the snaps.
Before going for lunch it is a practice that a light talk apprising
all about the latest happenings, called ‘Pep Talk’, which serves as an
mappetizer, is delivered for better assimilation of food. Brig
K.G.Behl, President DESL, gave all the details, copies of which were
circulated and cheered all with some latest jokes. The talk included:
1.Rank Pay of Officers- Case in Supreme Court It is learnt that the
case came up for hearing on 24 Feb 2011 in the Court of Justice Shri
Aftab Alam & Justice Shri RM Lodha (Court No 12). There were partial
arguments on the pay fixation done as per IV
Pay Commission. The court has asked UOI to file an affidavit on the
pay fixation of civilian officers who were drawing the same basic pay
as that of army officers at the time of IV Pay commission. The next
date of hearing has been fixed as 08 Mar 2011.
2.Modified Parity for Casualty awards. The letter on modified parity
for casualty awards has finally been issued. Casualty awards from now
onwards are to be calculated based on 6th CPC scales.
In brief, this shall be the fresh entitlement with effect from 01-01-2006 :
Special Family Pension : Would not be less than 60% of minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) corresponding to the rank held.
Liberalized Family Pension : Would not be less than the (100% of)
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable).
Disability Element : Would not be less than 30% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability, proportionately reduced for
lesser disability.
War Injury Element : Would not be less than 60% of the minimum of 6th
CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X Group Pay
(wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately reduced for
lesser disability in cases of retirement / discharge and 100% of the
minimum of 6th CPC pay band + Grade Pay + Military Service Pay + X
Group Pay (wherever applicable) for 100% disability proportionately
reduced for lesser disability in cases of invalidment.
Some more categories have been added in death due to snake bite,
unintentional killing by own troops, accidental deaths due to natural
calamity, electrocution, and accidents while performing duties in
operational areas. MOD letter n dated 03 Feb 2011.
3. One Rank One Pension (OROP)
In one of his talks the Army Chief has stated that OROP, so far
as JCO’s and Ors are concerned is almost through but the recent reply
sent by Jt. Secretary Pension who has replied on 11.02.2011 to Lt Gen
S.K.BahriPVSM(Retd) that a committee under the chairmanship of
Cabinet Secretary was set up to look into the demand of OROP and
related issues. Although the committee did not recommend OROP but
substantial improvement in the pension of commissioned officers and
JCOs and Ors have been made recommended. All orders implementing the
recommendations of the committee have been issued vide MOD’s letters
dated 30.10.2009, 19 01 2010, 21 01 2010 and 08 03 2010.
The above letters, so far as JCOs ,Ors are concerned have
merely removed the disparity existing between various classification
pays and made pensions better but not near OROP. This is where
agitation of Ex Servicemen is continuing at Delhi where they are
planning to hold a big Rally on 06 03 2011 and have requested support
from Ex Servicemen all over the country. Those who wish can contribute
to the cause.
4. Welfare Measures by not setting up commission ordered by the Supreme Court.
In one of the cases in Supreme Court the restoration of some one's
dues after more than four decades, has been described as welfare
measure and have the guts to tell the Hon'ble Supreme Court, through
Attorney General of India that they restored pension of Rs
75/- sanctioned to the family of a Major who died in 1967, to Rs
18000/-. Surprisingly the Court did not ask them why it took them so
many years to give justice if it was a welfare measure taken by them.
They did it ,not as a welfare measure, but when they were cornered to
do that through ESM organisations and courts. Their contention that
'a proper mechanism is being evolved to address the grievances of
ex-service personnel at their "doorsteps", and Government was fully
concerned with the welfare of the armed forces and greatly valued
their contribution to the nation and there was no need at the moment
for setting up any separate commission to address the problems of
ex-servicemen as the defense
department has a separate welfare wings at the district level to
tackle the grievances appears a farce.
It is just an eye wash and cannot be believed as so many cases
reported to them long back are still to see the light of the day as
those are the real Welfare measures which need to be resolved. A
welfare measure is that, when action is taken suo moto as and when
any matter is either seen or reported against certain laid down rules,
where welfare of other Defence Forces is being jeopardised. But
nothing of the sort is being done by the welfare directorates of the
MOD and rather the cases already decided by the courts are either
being delayed or twisted to
the disadvantage of the Defence Personnel. It will be a misnomer to
call these welfare measures.
Surprisingly even the PCDA(P) Allahabad, whom those
irregularities were pointed out, expressed their helplessness as it was
a matter of Policy which only MOD can decide. Was It not their duty
,as auditors of Defence Accounts, to bring it to the notice of MOD and
get the orders amended, When nothing came out the Comptroller and
Auditor General was approached to find out why their auditors cannot
detect the glaring anomalies and get those rectified which are later
pointed out by Courts in a long drawn process and by the time
judgments are implemented some of the beneficiaries leave this world.
Who is looking after the welfare of the Defence personnel?
Even judgments of the Supreme Court, when
quoted, are not being implemented and same is the plight of the
Judgments of the Armed Forces Tribunal. Heavens are not going to fall
even if the Commission suggested by the Hon'ble Supreme Court is
constituted by the Govt. Though it has not been given any powers but
may only expedite in waking up authorities and prompt them to take
quick remedial action. They are scared to constitute above commission
because ,unlike Govt. committees, the aggrieved persons will be
feeding them directly and not MOD who had been feeding earlier
committees with data they wanted to project and not what was required.
Those who drew less lumpsum gratuity after 1.1.2006 on retirement
can draw up 3 to 41 to 43% as per latest rules.
Use of word - PBOR AHQ letter No.13048/SD- 1B dated 30 Dec. 2010
The issue has been considered at the IHQ of MoD(Army). It has been
decided that the acronym PBOR will not be used, instead JCOs & ORs
will be used in all letters/Comns.
Purchase of vehicles through CSD
The case for removing all limitations on such vehicles is being
processed and it has been promised by the CM that all those will be
removed to bring those at par with other States.
Allotment of land for State War Memorial has been taken up with Army
Comdr during his recent visit. Plan to hold a big rally during the
year has also been mooted.
We appreciate the efforts of Maj Gen Ranvir Yadav,VSM, GOC
Uttarakhand Sub Area for taking up actions to improve facilities in
CSD, ECHS and taking up other welfare activities.
Support from Dehradun for 6th March Rally
From: CS Kamboj [mailto:kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in]
Sent: 04 March 2011 07:43
To: Kishan Gopal Behl
Cc: Kamboj CS
Subject: Re: Support from Dehradun for 6th March Rally
Dear Brigadier Behl,
Thank you SO MUCH for your very kind efforts for collecting contributions from Military Veterans in Doon Valley.
I am sure Gen Kadyan will personally respond to this email of yours.
Forgive me for pointing out an error - the email ID kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in , on which you have sent this email, was abondoned by me morer than a month ago as I receive lot of trash on this ID. I had informed all about and had requested to delete this ID from their address book. Somehow, you missed that message.
Sometimes I check this email box to ensure nothing important is missed out - and today I found your VERY IMPORTANT email here today burried in lot of trash.
My only valid email ID now is CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Kindly record this new ID and delete all other email IDs of mine that you may have.
Once again SIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VERY KIND EFFORTS.
I am redirecting this email to my current valid ID, from where I will write to the IESM Governing Body and inform them of your great effort.
Very fond regards and my Salute to you and Veterans in Doon Valley.
Chander Kamboj
Sent: 04 March 2011 07:43
To: Kishan Gopal Behl
Cc: Kamboj CS
Subject: Re: Support from Dehradun for 6th March Rally
Dear Brigadier Behl,
Thank you SO MUCH for your very kind efforts for collecting contributions from Military Veterans in Doon Valley.
I am sure Gen Kadyan will personally respond to this email of yours.
Forgive me for pointing out an error - the email ID kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in , on which you have sent this email, was abondoned by me morer than a month ago as I receive lot of trash on this ID. I had informed all about and had requested to delete this ID from their address book. Somehow, you missed that message.
Sometimes I check this email box to ensure nothing important is missed out - and today I found your VERY IMPORTANT email here today burried in lot of trash.
My only valid email ID now is CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Kindly record this new ID and delete all other email IDs of mine that you may have.
Once again SIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VERY KIND EFFORTS.
I am redirecting this email to my current valid ID, from where I will write to the IESM Governing Body and inform them of your great effort.
Very fond regards and my Salute to you and Veterans in Doon Valley.
Chander Kamboj
MoD drops use of term PBOR in Armed Forces
MoD drops use of term PBOR in Armed Forces
Bhartesh Singh Thakur Posted online: Thu Mar 03 2011, 00:36 hrs Chandigarh : The Ministry of Defence has accepted a long-pending demand of ex-servicemen to drop the use of the term ‘Personnel Below Officers Rank’ (PBOR) in official communication. A letter to this effect has been issued to all command headquarters of the Army, Air Force and Navy. Henceforth, in official communication, soldiers will be referred as Other Ranks (Sepoy, Naik and Havildar), Junior Commissioned Officers (Hony Naib Subedar, Naib Subedar, Subedar, Subedar Major) and Officers (Lieutenants and above). Officers are commissioned in forces, so are Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs). The JCOs also put on stars on shoulders like officers. The JCOs are Class II gazetted officers and their gazette notification is also signed by the President of India. Some JCOs do take on officer’s duties, responsibilities and also draw officiating allowances for that. Lt Gen Raj Kadyan (retd), former Vice-Chief of the Army and chairman of the Indian Ex-servicemen Movement, said: “I am happy the system has recognised it. It was unfair to call Junior Commissioned Officers as PBORs.” The term PBORs is considered derogatory because it draws a line between officers and the other ranks. “It creates a deep sense of difference in the hearts and mind of ex-servicemen and also in forces,” said Lt Col SS Sohi (retd), president of the Ex-servicemen Grievance Cell. He had also petitioned the MoD to drop the term. Bhim Sen Sehgal, chairman of the All-India Ex-servicemen Welfare Association, however, said everybody should be called ex-servicemen after retirement. "After retirement, all are equal and categorising soldiers who have served at the lowest ranks as Other Ranks should also be avoided," he said.
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Bhartesh Singh Thakur Posted online: Thu Mar 03 2011, 00:36 hrs Chandigarh : The Ministry of Defence has accepted a long-pending demand of ex-servicemen to drop the use of the term ‘Personnel Below Officers Rank’ (PBOR) in official communication. A letter to this effect has been issued to all command headquarters of the Army, Air Force and Navy. Henceforth, in official communication, soldiers will be referred as Other Ranks (Sepoy, Naik and Havildar), Junior Commissioned Officers (Hony Naib Subedar, Naib Subedar, Subedar, Subedar Major) and Officers (Lieutenants and above). Officers are commissioned in forces, so are Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs). The JCOs also put on stars on shoulders like officers. The JCOs are Class II gazetted officers and their gazette notification is also signed by the President of India. Some JCOs do take on officer’s duties, responsibilities and also draw officiating allowances for that. Lt Gen Raj Kadyan (retd), former Vice-Chief of the Army and chairman of the Indian Ex-servicemen Movement, said: “I am happy the system has recognised it. It was unfair to call Junior Commissioned Officers as PBORs.” The term PBORs is considered derogatory because it draws a line between officers and the other ranks. “It creates a deep sense of difference in the hearts and mind of ex-servicemen and also in forces,” said Lt Col SS Sohi (retd), president of the Ex-servicemen Grievance Cell. He had also petitioned the MoD to drop the term. Bhim Sen Sehgal, chairman of the All-India Ex-servicemen Welfare Association, however, said everybody should be called ex-servicemen after retirement. "After retirement, all are equal and categorising soldiers who have served at the lowest ranks as Other Ranks should also be avoided," he said.
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Wednesday, March 2, 2011
IESM Tamilnadu Meeting -27 Feb 2011
Dear Members,
The Meeting went off well. I am happy to report that members from Madurai, Thirunelveli, Thanjavur, Trichy, Villupuram, Thiruvallur, Kanchepuram, Chennai, Kumbakonam & a few other Districts participated. A total of 71 IESM Members & another 14 Office Bearers of five other ESM Organisations attended the Meet.
Eleven new members have also joined the Movement. Many more from the interior Tamilnadu are also likely to join the Movement shortly.
From 9 am to 10 am, Col Charavarthy projected a Video presentation of 1971 war & the celebration of Martyrs Day in Chennai.
The detailed report will be sent in a couple of days.
Regards,
Col TN Raman
Convener IESM Tamilnadu
The Meeting went off well. I am happy to report that members from Madurai, Thirunelveli, Thanjavur, Trichy, Villupuram, Thiruvallur, Kanchepuram, Chennai, Kumbakonam & a few other Districts participated. A total of 71 IESM Members & another 14 Office Bearers of five other ESM Organisations attended the Meet.
Eleven new members have also joined the Movement. Many more from the interior Tamilnadu are also likely to join the Movement shortly.
From 9 am to 10 am, Col Charavarthy projected a Video presentation of 1971 war & the celebration of Martyrs Day in Chennai.
The detailed report will be sent in a couple of days.
Regards,
Col TN Raman
Convener IESM Tamilnadu
RALLY 6 MAR 2011
From: Vinay Khanna [mailto:ransomesindia@yahoo.com]
Sent: 25 February 2011 22:20
To: Satbir Singh
Cc: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: RALLY 6 MAR 2011
Dear Satbir,
I have attended every rally at Jantar Mantar since inception.
As in the past, I herewith enclose a small donation of Rs 10,000 towards rally expenses.
Union Bank of India cq No 027991 dated 24 Feb 2011 has been posted
Last time it was nice to see the outstation faujis and the ladies who had come all the way from different places being handed over lunch packets in an organised manner. I am sure under your devoted managementship, this time it will be even better.
Best wishes for a successful rally & I shall be there.
Lt Col Vinay Khanna
Signals ( 1957 Batch IMA )
C -79, G.K.- I , New Delhi - 110 048
M 91 9818301089
Sent: 25 February 2011 22:20
To: Satbir Singh
Cc: CS.Kamboj@yahoo.in
Subject: RALLY 6 MAR 2011
Dear Satbir,
I have attended every rally at Jantar Mantar since inception.
As in the past, I herewith enclose a small donation of Rs 10,000 towards rally expenses.
Union Bank of India cq No 027991 dated 24 Feb 2011 has been posted
Last time it was nice to see the outstation faujis and the ladies who had come all the way from different places being handed over lunch packets in an organised manner. I am sure under your devoted managementship, this time it will be even better.
Best wishes for a successful rally & I shall be there.
Lt Col Vinay Khanna
Signals ( 1957 Batch IMA )
C -79, G.K.- I , New Delhi - 110 048
M 91 9818301089
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
Erroneous Instruction for Family Pension of Lt Cols Amended
From: CK Sharma
Sent: 28 February 2011 22:07
To: Members_IESM
Cc: 22NDA; 84th/24th
Subject: [IESM_GovBody] Erroneous Instruction for Family Pension of Lt Cols Amended
Affected families can now breathe easy!
Take Care!
Wg Cdr CK Sharma (Retd)Treasurer, IESM--------------Incorrect pension to families of Lt Cols: Clarification issued
As discussed earlier, the Ministry of Defence, in its letter dated 15-11-2010, had incorrectly mentioned the ordinary family pension in respect of Lt Cols as Rs 8760/- per month whereas it should have actually been Rs 15420/- per month.
The PCDA(P) had also floated a circular to all Pension Disbursing Agencies (PDAs) with the same incorrect amount.
However now, the PCDA(P) vide a circular issued on 22-02-2011, has clarified the following to all PDAs :
“There shall be no change in the entitlement of the rates of minimum guaranteed family pension for the rank of Lt Col (TS) / Lt Col (S) which had already been notified as 15420/- pm under VI CPC vide MOD letter dated 21.05.2009 and circulated vide this office circular No. 412 dated 26.05.2009”
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Sent: 28 February 2011 22:07
To: Members_IESM
Cc: 22NDA; 84th/24th
Subject: [IESM_GovBody] Erroneous Instruction for Family Pension of Lt Cols Amended
Affected families can now breathe easy!
Take Care!
Wg Cdr CK Sharma (Retd)Treasurer, IESM--------------Incorrect pension to families of Lt Cols: Clarification issued
As discussed earlier, the Ministry of Defence, in its letter dated 15-11-2010, had incorrectly mentioned the ordinary family pension in respect of Lt Cols as Rs 8760/- per month whereas it should have actually been Rs 15420/- per month.
The PCDA(P) had also floated a circular to all Pension Disbursing Agencies (PDAs) with the same incorrect amount.
However now, the PCDA(P) vide a circular issued on 22-02-2011, has clarified the following to all PDAs :
“There shall be no change in the entitlement of the rates of minimum guaranteed family pension for the rank of Lt Col (TS) / Lt Col (S) which had already been notified as 15420/- pm under VI CPC vide MOD letter dated 21.05.2009 and circulated vide this office circular No. 412 dated 26.05.2009”
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New members by Cdr Pathak
From: Ravindra Pathak [mailto:raviwarsha@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 March 2011 15:53
To: Satbir Singh, Maj Gen
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Wg Cdr C K Sharma; wingco_2001@yahoo.com
Subject: IESM membership
Dear Sir
I have today registered the following members online.
Maj Gen Appachu, CJ Rs 100+400+1000(Donation)
Wg Cdr Chandrasekaran M Rs 100+400+4000(Donation)
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Brgds
Ravi
Sent: 01 March 2011 15:53
To: Satbir Singh, Maj Gen
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Wg Cdr C K Sharma; wingco_2001@yahoo.com
Subject: IESM membership
Dear Sir
I have today registered the following members online.
Maj Gen Appachu, CJ Rs 100+400+1000(Donation)
Wg Cdr Chandrasekaran M Rs 100+400+4000(Donation)
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Brgds
Ravi
New members at Hissar on 20 Feb 2011
Friends,
During the IESM Rally @ HISSAR on 20th Feb, I have enrolled the following SIXTEEN new members of the IESM ( U will be3 happy to note that most of those who attended that rally were already members of our IESM ).
We owe our Sincere THANKS to Sub HARI SINGH's tireless efforts & Shri RANBIR SINGH BENIWAL for motivating these Veterans to become members of IESM.
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Amounts collected & Forms will be given to Gen Satbir/CEEKAY, Sir during next mtng
1. Sub AZAD SINGH
2. Sub Clk RAJINDER SINGH
3. Hav SANJEEV KUMAR
4. Sgt HARENDER SINGH JAT
5. Hav RAJBIR SINGH BENIWAL
6. Nk DHARAMPAL SINGH
7. Nk RAM NIWAS SHEORAN
8. Sep Partap singh
9. Sep VED PAL SINGH
10.Sep RAM KANWAR
11. Spr RADHA KRISHAN
12. Sub SURENDER SING
13. Sub RAM SARUP
14. Sub Maj SHAMSHER SINGH VIJAI
15 Sub OM PARKASH
16. Hav PRABHU NEHARA
IESM -- 'JAI HO'
General A.J.B.Jaini, AVSM
Member Gov Body - IESM
9810180189
During the IESM Rally @ HISSAR on 20th Feb, I have enrolled the following SIXTEEN new members of the IESM ( U will be3 happy to note that most of those who attended that rally were already members of our IESM ).
We owe our Sincere THANKS to Sub HARI SINGH's tireless efforts & Shri RANBIR SINGH BENIWAL for motivating these Veterans to become members of IESM.
... edited ...
Amounts collected & Forms will be given to Gen Satbir/CEEKAY, Sir during next mtng
1. Sub AZAD SINGH
2. Sub Clk RAJINDER SINGH
3. Hav SANJEEV KUMAR
4. Sgt HARENDER SINGH JAT
5. Hav RAJBIR SINGH BENIWAL
6. Nk DHARAMPAL SINGH
7. Nk RAM NIWAS SHEORAN
8. Sep Partap singh
9. Sep VED PAL SINGH
10.Sep RAM KANWAR
11. Spr RADHA KRISHAN
12. Sub SURENDER SING
13. Sub RAM SARUP
14. Sub Maj SHAMSHER SINGH VIJAI
15 Sub OM PARKASH
16. Hav PRABHU NEHARA
IESM -- 'JAI HO'
General A.J.B.Jaini, AVSM
Member Gov Body - IESM
9810180189
Usage of PBOR
From: kishore sule [mailto:thesignalmanmcte@yahoo.co.in]
Sent: 26 February 2011 09:07
To: Report My Signal (Chander Kamboj)
Subject: Re: SOME OF THE EMAILS RECEIVED FROM MEMBERS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 082/2011 - 25 FEB 2011 (LIST-6)
Sir,
I have been voicing my concerns on the usage of PBOR. One such write-up published in the MCTE Newsletter is att.
Lt Col(Retd) H S Bhandari
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PBORSome things you don’t digest. Hard as you may try to convince yourself to swim along the current, you may yet be uncomfortable. As a uniformed man for so long, I have not been able to accept our rank and file category being called ‘PBOR’. This was coined by bureaucrats in the South Block and we have lapped it up gleefully. In civil departments there are officers and non-officers. In the MOD, the ACSO (Assistant Civilian Staff Officer) is not an officer, per se, but the CSO (Civilian Staff Officer) is an officer. This classification has different sets of rules as regards to recruitment, training, transfers and growth. Take Central Police Organizations, for example. The officers are bureaucrats (IPS or State Polices Service cadre) but the troops are fauji type soldiers. In banks, when a clerk is due to become an officer he declines the promotion because now he would be liable to transfers.
We take pride in having Junior Commissioned Officers and Non-Commissioned Officers in our ranks for whom the tenures, terrains, transfers are the same as for the Officers. Air Force and Navy can, to some extent, think on these lines (PBOR) but surely not the Army. This PBOR started from South Block, came to Sena Bhawan and now it is an accepted nomenclature even in Part I Orders published ‘somewhere in the western sector’. It is painful to notice that the Record Offices have started using this acronym.
In MCTE, where 50% staff is civilian, we may be tempted to the classification of Os and PBOR. What about a Field unit ? And we talk of values and traditions ! Do we no longer take pride in our JCOs and NCOs ? What about the junior leadership ? The Platoon or Section 'Commanders' leading the patrols or even the operations ?
Change is good. It should be in the outlook, in thinking and in deeds. Copying the bureaucratic jargons just to please them ‘on file’ is definitely lowering the bar.
Sent: 26 February 2011 09:07
To: Report My Signal (Chander Kamboj)
Subject: Re: SOME OF THE EMAILS RECEIVED FROM MEMBERS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 082/2011 - 25 FEB 2011 (LIST-6)
Sir,
I have been voicing my concerns on the usage of PBOR. One such write-up published in the MCTE Newsletter is att.
Lt Col(Retd) H S Bhandari
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PBORSome things you don’t digest. Hard as you may try to convince yourself to swim along the current, you may yet be uncomfortable. As a uniformed man for so long, I have not been able to accept our rank and file category being called ‘PBOR’. This was coined by bureaucrats in the South Block and we have lapped it up gleefully. In civil departments there are officers and non-officers. In the MOD, the ACSO (Assistant Civilian Staff Officer) is not an officer, per se, but the CSO (Civilian Staff Officer) is an officer. This classification has different sets of rules as regards to recruitment, training, transfers and growth. Take Central Police Organizations, for example. The officers are bureaucrats (IPS or State Polices Service cadre) but the troops are fauji type soldiers. In banks, when a clerk is due to become an officer he declines the promotion because now he would be liable to transfers.
We take pride in having Junior Commissioned Officers and Non-Commissioned Officers in our ranks for whom the tenures, terrains, transfers are the same as for the Officers. Air Force and Navy can, to some extent, think on these lines (PBOR) but surely not the Army. This PBOR started from South Block, came to Sena Bhawan and now it is an accepted nomenclature even in Part I Orders published ‘somewhere in the western sector’. It is painful to notice that the Record Offices have started using this acronym.
In MCTE, where 50% staff is civilian, we may be tempted to the classification of Os and PBOR. What about a Field unit ? And we talk of values and traditions ! Do we no longer take pride in our JCOs and NCOs ? What about the junior leadership ? The Platoon or Section 'Commanders' leading the patrols or even the operations ?
Change is good. It should be in the outlook, in thinking and in deeds. Copying the bureaucratic jargons just to please them ‘on file’ is definitely lowering the bar.
ATF slaps Rs 1 lakh fine
ATF slaps Rs 1 lakh fine on pension officer
(should be AFT, really!)
Vijay Mohan
Tribune News Service
Chandigarh, February 27.
Taking the pension disbursing authorities to task for virtually forcing a 100 per cent disabled soldier into litigation to get his due pensionary benefits, the Armed Forces Tribunal has imposed a fine of Rs 1 lakh on the Defence Pension Disbursing Officer (DPDO), Pathankot.
The tribunal’s bench, comprising Justice NP Gupta and Lt Gen NS Brar, also granted liberty to the government to recover the said amount from the salary of the officer concerned.
The case related to a 100 per cent disabled soldier, Havildar Hari Singh of Manwal Upperala village near Pathankot, who was granted a constant attendance allowance (CAA) by the government on being medically boarded out. Vide orders issued in May 2009, the allowance was revised to Rs 3,000 per month after the 6th Pay Commission with retrospective effect from January 1, 2006.
However, the DPDO, Pathankot, instead of releasing the amount to the soldier from January 2006, paid it only from July 2009 onwards. Constant requests of the soldier as well as the Army to the DPDO fell on deaf ears. Thereafter the veteran was forced to knock the doors of the tribunal. On filing of the case, the DPDO immediately released the balance amount of about Rs 1 lakh.
The bench, however, took strong exception to the fact that economically weak, disabled veterans were being forced into litigation even on issues which did not require any interpretation or clarification by the authorities concerned. In the instant issue, the Principal Controller of Defence Accounts (Pensions) as well as the Army had issued clear directions to the DPDO for grant of arrears with effect from January 2006, but despite the orders issued in May 2009 the veteran was paid his dues in January 2011 and that too after he filed a petition before the tribunal.
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(should be AFT, really!)
Vijay Mohan
Tribune News Service
Chandigarh, February 27.
Taking the pension disbursing authorities to task for virtually forcing a 100 per cent disabled soldier into litigation to get his due pensionary benefits, the Armed Forces Tribunal has imposed a fine of Rs 1 lakh on the Defence Pension Disbursing Officer (DPDO), Pathankot.
The tribunal’s bench, comprising Justice NP Gupta and Lt Gen NS Brar, also granted liberty to the government to recover the said amount from the salary of the officer concerned.
The case related to a 100 per cent disabled soldier, Havildar Hari Singh of Manwal Upperala village near Pathankot, who was granted a constant attendance allowance (CAA) by the government on being medically boarded out. Vide orders issued in May 2009, the allowance was revised to Rs 3,000 per month after the 6th Pay Commission with retrospective effect from January 1, 2006.
However, the DPDO, Pathankot, instead of releasing the amount to the soldier from January 2006, paid it only from July 2009 onwards. Constant requests of the soldier as well as the Army to the DPDO fell on deaf ears. Thereafter the veteran was forced to knock the doors of the tribunal. On filing of the case, the DPDO immediately released the balance amount of about Rs 1 lakh.
The bench, however, took strong exception to the fact that economically weak, disabled veterans were being forced into litigation even on issues which did not require any interpretation or clarification by the authorities concerned. In the instant issue, the Principal Controller of Defence Accounts (Pensions) as well as the Army had issued clear directions to the DPDO for grant of arrears with effect from January 2006, but despite the orders issued in May 2009 the veteran was paid his dues in January 2011 and that too after he filed a petition before the tribunal.
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MODIFIED PARITY FOR PRE-2006 DISABLED WAR VETERAN
From: DIWAVE Disabled war Veterans [mailto:diwave1@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 March 2011 10:37
To: DELETED
Subject: INTEPRETATION OF MOD LETTER
MODIFIED PARITY FOR PRE-2006 DISABLED WAR VETERANSEXPLANATORY NOTE As a result of DIWAVE’s persistent efforts to take up issues relating to war injury pension and other welfare measures of concern to disabled war veterans, MoD has issued an order dated 15.2.11 revising war injury element of war injury pension (as also disability element in respect of other disabled ex-servicemen). The letter was circulated vide DIWAVE email dated 25.2.11.
2. We have been receiving several queries, seeking clarifications regarding the order and other related issues which are addressed as follows –
a) This is a major policy decision resulting in substantial benefits to pre-2006 recipients of war injury pension.
b) With this order, war injury element will be calculated w.e.f. 1.1.06 on percentage basis linked with reckonable pay (minimum of relevant Pay Band + Grade Pay + MSP). Service element is already 50% of reckonable pay for pre-2006 invalided out.
c) This replaces the earlier system of fixed amount (for 100 % disability - 11760 for officers, 8600 for JCOs & 7020 for ORs).
d) Also, w.e.f. 1.7.2009, the cap on maximum war injury pension at 100% of minimum pay of PB has been removed. That means those with 100% disability will now get 150% of their reckonable pay.
e) Also, pre-96 invalided out war veterans have been granted broad-banding benefit w.e.f. 1.7.09. (20-49% = 50%, 50-75% = 75% and 76-100% = 100%) Efforts are still continuing to get broad-banding benefit w.e.f. 1.1.96, covering invalided out as well as superannuated /discharged war veterans, at par with the disabled civilian pensioners.
3. Examples of current entitlement of war injury pension -
A. Pre-2006 invalided out Captain with 100% disability –
Reckonable Pay (Minimum Pay in PB3 + Grade Pay + MSP) = 27700 (X)
Service Element – 50% of X = 13850 (Y)
War Injury Element – 100% of X = 27700 (Z)
Current rate of Dearness Relief – 45% of (Y+Z)
Current Pension = (Y+Z) x 1.45 = 60247.50
Pension from 1.1. 06 to 30.6.09 = 27700 (maximum capped at 100%) + DR as revised from time to time.
B. Pre-2006 invalided out Colonel with 60% disability Reckonable Pay (Minimum Pay in PB + GP + MSP) = 37400 + 8700 + 6000 = 52100 (X)
Service Element = 50% of X = 26050 (Y)
War Injury Element (w.e.f. 1.7.09) = 75% of X (after broad-banding) = 39075 (Z)
Current Rate of Dearness Relief = 45%
Current Pension – (Y+Z) x 1.45 = 94431
Pension from 1.1.06 to 30.6.09 = 52100* +DR as revised from time to time. *Maximum capped at 100% of pay.
C. Pre-2006 superannuated Brig with 40% disability
Reckonable Pay ( Minimum of PB + GP +MSP) = 37400 + 8900 + 6000 = 52300 (X)
Service Element = 50% of X = 26150 (Y)
War Injury Element = 50% (after broad-banding) x 60 % of X = 15690 (Z)
Current Rate of Dearness Relief = 45%
Current Pension – (Y+Z) x 1.45 = 60668
Note - Post-96 invalided out disabled war veterans were granted broad-banding benefit vide MoD letter dated 31.1.2001, but maximum pension remained capped to 100% of reckonable pay until 30.6.09 i.e. up to that date, broad-banding benefits only those with < 50% disability element.
4. For revision of war injury pension and payment of arrears, PCDA (P) Allahabad needs to issue revised PPO. To expedite it, you can write to PCDA (P), giving reference of the following letters –
a) No. 17(4)/2008(1)/D (Pen/Policy)/ - Vol-V dated 15.2.2011 (Grant of Modified Parity)
b) No. 10 (01)/D (Pen/Pol)/2009/Vol.II dated 19.1.2010
(Grant of broad-banding and removal of cap on maximum pension.)
Other Major decisions sought from MOD are awaited and we hope that orders on these will be issued shortly.
Col H N Handa
President Diwave
B6/6 DLF City, Phase 1,
Gurgaon 122002
Tele: 0124-4051570, Fax: 0124-4051572
Mob: +919811920190, Mail: diwave1@gmail.com
Sent: 02 March 2011 10:37
To: DELETED
Subject: INTEPRETATION OF MOD LETTER
MODIFIED PARITY FOR PRE-2006 DISABLED WAR VETERANSEXPLANATORY NOTE As a result of DIWAVE’s persistent efforts to take up issues relating to war injury pension and other welfare measures of concern to disabled war veterans, MoD has issued an order dated 15.2.11 revising war injury element of war injury pension (as also disability element in respect of other disabled ex-servicemen). The letter was circulated vide DIWAVE email dated 25.2.11.
2. We have been receiving several queries, seeking clarifications regarding the order and other related issues which are addressed as follows –
a) This is a major policy decision resulting in substantial benefits to pre-2006 recipients of war injury pension.
b) With this order, war injury element will be calculated w.e.f. 1.1.06 on percentage basis linked with reckonable pay (minimum of relevant Pay Band + Grade Pay + MSP). Service element is already 50% of reckonable pay for pre-2006 invalided out.
c) This replaces the earlier system of fixed amount (for 100 % disability - 11760 for officers, 8600 for JCOs & 7020 for ORs).
d) Also, w.e.f. 1.7.2009, the cap on maximum war injury pension at 100% of minimum pay of PB has been removed. That means those with 100% disability will now get 150% of their reckonable pay.
e) Also, pre-96 invalided out war veterans have been granted broad-banding benefit w.e.f. 1.7.09. (20-49% = 50%, 50-75% = 75% and 76-100% = 100%) Efforts are still continuing to get broad-banding benefit w.e.f. 1.1.96, covering invalided out as well as superannuated /discharged war veterans, at par with the disabled civilian pensioners.
3. Examples of current entitlement of war injury pension -
A. Pre-2006 invalided out Captain with 100% disability –
Reckonable Pay (Minimum Pay in PB3 + Grade Pay + MSP) = 27700 (X)
Service Element – 50% of X = 13850 (Y)
War Injury Element – 100% of X = 27700 (Z)
Current rate of Dearness Relief – 45% of (Y+Z)
Current Pension = (Y+Z) x 1.45 = 60247.50
Pension from 1.1. 06 to 30.6.09 = 27700 (maximum capped at 100%) + DR as revised from time to time.
B. Pre-2006 invalided out Colonel with 60% disability Reckonable Pay (Minimum Pay in PB + GP + MSP) = 37400 + 8700 + 6000 = 52100 (X)
Service Element = 50% of X = 26050 (Y)
War Injury Element (w.e.f. 1.7.09) = 75% of X (after broad-banding) = 39075 (Z)
Current Rate of Dearness Relief = 45%
Current Pension – (Y+Z) x 1.45 = 94431
Pension from 1.1.06 to 30.6.09 = 52100* +DR as revised from time to time. *Maximum capped at 100% of pay.
C. Pre-2006 superannuated Brig with 40% disability
Reckonable Pay ( Minimum of PB + GP +MSP) = 37400 + 8900 + 6000 = 52300 (X)
Service Element = 50% of X = 26150 (Y)
War Injury Element = 50% (after broad-banding) x 60 % of X = 15690 (Z)
Current Rate of Dearness Relief = 45%
Current Pension – (Y+Z) x 1.45 = 60668
Note - Post-96 invalided out disabled war veterans were granted broad-banding benefit vide MoD letter dated 31.1.2001, but maximum pension remained capped to 100% of reckonable pay until 30.6.09 i.e. up to that date, broad-banding benefits only those with < 50% disability element.
4. For revision of war injury pension and payment of arrears, PCDA (P) Allahabad needs to issue revised PPO. To expedite it, you can write to PCDA (P), giving reference of the following letters –
a) No. 17(4)/2008(1)/D (Pen/Policy)/ - Vol-V dated 15.2.2011 (Grant of Modified Parity)
b) No. 10 (01)/D (Pen/Pol)/2009/Vol.II dated 19.1.2010
(Grant of broad-banding and removal of cap on maximum pension.)
Other Major decisions sought from MOD are awaited and we hope that orders on these will be issued shortly.
Col H N Handa
President Diwave
B6/6 DLF City, Phase 1,
Gurgaon 122002
Tele: 0124-4051570, Fax: 0124-4051572
Mob: +919811920190, Mail: diwave1@gmail.com
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