Thursday, February 16, 2012
Finally ECHS has its own website..Col RP Chaturvedi
Finally ECHS has its own website. Please visit http://echs.gov.in/
It includes e Mail ids of Region Centres and Tele numbers of ECHS functionaries. There is also a click on for Claim status. This should be a Great help.
Please send in your suggestions for improvement to ECHS, with cc to me if you wish.
Its really a GREAT site. DO visit. You will find answers to all your queries. Cheers. And lots of Good Health.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
E Mail ID: rpchaturvedi@gmail.com
Tuesday, February 14, 2012
New members IESM
Dear Sir
I have registered online the following members today
Mrs Priti Keskar w/o Lt Col Keskar SV
Mrs DH Kumawat from BSF as supporter
Hav More RS
HDFC Bank receipt will follow.
Application forms will follow in due course.
Brgds
Pathak
I have registered online the following members today
Mrs Priti Keskar w/o Lt Col Keskar SV
Mrs DH Kumawat from BSF as supporter
Hav More RS
HDFC Bank receipt will follow.
Application forms will follow in due course.
Brgds
Pathak
ECHS Improvement Suggestions Needed ASAP
From: Rakesh Prasad Chaturvedi
Date: 13 February 2012 00:14
Subject: colrpc-choice:836) ECHS Improvement Suggestions Needed ASAP
To:
I am compiling points for improvements of ECHS services, to project them to MD/ AG.
Kindly help by forwarding a) Problems specific to YOUR area (mention Polyclinic location to which point pertains), and b) Suggestions for improvement- Needless to say these should be general in nature and not specific to you personally.
Please let me have these by 1000 hrs Monday 13 Feb POSITIVELY. Thanks.
Also, lastly if YOU have a specific long standing problem that's not been resolved even after your efforts, kindly share details separately- Wednesday on.
The former requirement is time bound. The last para is not. Feel free to write to me.
Those reading this on blog, please respond on my id rpchaturvedi@gmail.com, and not on blog address please. Thanks.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
E Mail ID: rpchaturvedi@gmail.com
Date: 13 February 2012 00:14
Subject: colrpc-choice:836) ECHS Improvement Suggestions Needed ASAP
To:
I am compiling points for improvements of ECHS services, to project them to MD/ AG.
Kindly help by forwarding a) Problems specific to YOUR area (mention Polyclinic location to which point pertains), and b) Suggestions for improvement- Needless to say these should be general in nature and not specific to you personally.
Please let me have these by 1000 hrs Monday 13 Feb POSITIVELY. Thanks.
Also, lastly if YOU have a specific long standing problem that's not been resolved even after your efforts, kindly share details separately- Wednesday on.
The former requirement is time bound. The last para is not. Feel free to write to me.
Those reading this on blog, please respond on my id rpchaturvedi@gmail.com, and not on blog address please. Thanks.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
E Mail ID: rpchaturvedi@gmail.com
Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Gratitude
Dear Mrs Pratibha Kulkarni,
On behalf of the IESM, I express my deep gratitude to you for your generous donation to the cause of the veterans' welfare. You have been kind in doing it regularly. We highly appreciate your exemplary gesture and will ensure that your contribution is used for the intended purpose.
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Best regards,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Chairman IESM
262, Sector - 17A
Gurgaon - 122 001
On behalf of the IESM, I express my deep gratitude to you for your generous donation to the cause of the veterans' welfare. You have been kind in doing it regularly. We highly appreciate your exemplary gesture and will ensure that your contribution is used for the intended purpose.
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Best regards,
Lt Gen Raj Kadyan
Chairman IESM
262, Sector - 17A
Gurgaon - 122 001
Our main aim is to fight for one rank, one pension’
Cdr Ravindra Waman PathakCommander Ravindra Waman Pathak, convenor of Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement (IESM), studied in various schools while travelling with his IAS father. He finished his schooling from Sainik School, Satara and joined the National Defence Academy as a naval cadet in 1965. He joined the Indian Navy in 1969 and saw action during the 1971 war. During his tenure, he specialised in navigation duties and commanded two warships. He was the intelligence and protocol officer at Western Naval Command at the time of his retirement in 1989. Pathak spoke to Kiran Dahitule about IESM, which is a NGO working for the cause of retired defence personnel.
What is the aim of IESM?
IESM was born in 2008 to protest against the injustice meted out to retired defence personnel that has been taking place since 1947 when Jawaharlal Nehru said independent India does not need armed forces until after the sixth pay commission.
Our main aim is to fight for OROP (one rank, one pension), which means same pension for same rank irrespective of the date of retirement. We strongly feel that a separate pay commission for the defence forces should be set up on the lines of other national commissions.
What issues are being tackled by IESM?
One of the major issues that we are handling is injustice against widows and officers. Having increased the pensions of JCOs (junior commissioned officer) and those below them with effect from July 1, 2009, which aims to bring near parity with post 2006 retirees, the Indian government did not give any benefits to widows or the officers.
The officers have been provided relief by AFT (Armed Forces Tribunal) but the government is yet to implement the ruling.
Denial of the right to vote is yet another issue we are looking at. The serving personnel have been denied the right to vote at their place of posting since 1995 after the Supreme Court judgment on the same.
What are the problems faced by ex-servicemen and widows of servicemen and how does IESM plan to resolve it?
The IESM is working at ground level in the following areas: Pension: We liaise with banks and record offices to correct the pensions and payment of dues in time.
ECHS: We have been officially recognised as the liaison between the ECHS (Ex-servicemen contributory health scheme) central organisation and the veterans. We are committed to spread the word about ECHS to veterans and encourage them to benefit from this very good scheme.
We are also working towards improving other benefits like Ayurveda treatment offered to veterans, fixed medical allowance for those living far from ECHS polyclinics, improvement in canteen services and ensuring the right to vote for serving personnel in places of posting. IESM does not work on issues that are at local level.
How can people contact you or how can they become members of your NGO?
For enrolling as members or to get redressal on issues connected with pension one can contact the following:
Cdr R W Pathak, 982329340, raviwarsha@gmail.com Gp Capt SS Phatak, 9421003200, sushan1005@yahoo.com
Lt Col Vinod Patil, 9923701885, bscd5791@gmail.com
Thursday, February 2, 2012
Passing away of Lt Gen Ranjit Singh Dayal, MVC
Subject: Passing away of Lt Gen Ranjit Singh Dayal, MVC
Pl. pass the information that Lt Gen Ranjit Singh Dayal, MVC, PVSM, , ADC passed away in Chandigarh at the age of 83. He was former Army Commander, Lt Governor of Puducherry, Andaman & Nicobar Islands and a Member of UPSC during this life time.
He was Georgian from Jullundhar School. He was Patron of Georgians Association - Delhi.
s m sundaram
Pl. pass the information that Lt Gen Ranjit Singh Dayal, MVC, PVSM, , ADC passed away in Chandigarh at the age of 83. He was former Army Commander, Lt Governor of Puducherry, Andaman & Nicobar Islands and a Member of UPSC during this life time.
He was Georgian from Jullundhar School. He was Patron of Georgians Association - Delhi.
s m sundaram
Wednesday, February 1, 2012
One rank one pension to the armed forces personnel…
One rank one pension to the armed forces personnel…
Posted: 30 Jan 2012 06:30 PM PST
Parliament of India
(Rajya Sabha Secretariat)
Press Release
Hundred and Forty-second Report on the petition praying for grant of one rank one pension to the armed forces personnel.
The Committee on Petitions of Rajya Sabha under the Chairmanship of Shri Bhagat Singh Koshyari, MP, presented its Hundred and Forty-second Report to the Rajya Sabha on 19th December, 2011 on the petition praying for grant of one rank one pension to the armed forces personnel.
2. The Petition was submitted by Shri Sanjay Prabhu and others, resident of Bangalore and countersigned by Rajeev Chandrasekhar, MP, Rajya Sabha.
3. The Committee during the course of its deliberations interacted with the petitioners, representatives of Departments of Ex-servicemen Welfare (M/o Defence), Expenditure (M/o Finance) and Pensions and Pensioner's Welfare (M/o Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions) and some organizations/individuals.
4. Following are the important recommendations of the Committee:-
4.1 The Committee has taken note of the fact that a sum of Rs.1300 crores is the total financial liability for the year 2011-12 in case OROP is implemented fully for all the defence personnel in the country across the board. The Committee was informed that out of this, 1065 crores would go to retirees belonging to Post Below Officer Ranks (PBOR) while the Commissioned Officers would be getting the remaining i.e. 235 crores. The Committee felt that 1300 crores is not a very big amount for a country of our size and economy for meeting the long pending demand of the armed forces of the country. The Committee understand that this 1300 crores is the expenditure for one year which might increase at the rate of 10 percent annually. Even if it is so, the Committee does not consider this amount to be high, keeping in view the objective for which it would be spent.
(Para 11 of the Report)
4.2 The Committee was not convinced with the version of the Ministry of Finance that the grant of OROP to the defence personnel would eventually generate similar requests from the civilian work force of the country under the Central Government and the State Governments. The Committee feels so because of the quite different terms and conditions of service of the two different categories of employments. The terms and conditions of armed forces are tougher and harsher than the civilian Government employee. On the issue of returning of service medals by the defence personnel of our country to the President of India in view of the Governments' apathetic attitude towards their demand of grant of OROP, the Committee was of the view that our defence personnel should not feel alienated to this extent again and they are not forced to surrender their hard earned service medals in this manner to exhibit their discontent with the government policies.
(Para 11.2 of the Report)
4.3 The Committee also felt that the decision of the Government to bring our defence personnel on the pattern of the civilians with regard to their pay, pension, etc. (from Third Central Pay Commission onwards) is not a considered decision which has caused hardship to the defence personnel and has given birth to their demand for OROP. The Committee understand that before the Third Central Pay Commission, the defence personnel were getting their pay / pension on the basis of separate criteria unconnected with the criteria devised for the civilian work force. That criteria acknowledged and covered the concept of OROP which has been given up after the Third Central Pay Commission.
(Para 11.4 of the Report)
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Monday, January 30, 2012
Comments on Asian Age...Brigadier V Mahalingam
Dear All,
My comments on Asian Age writings are:
On any issue especially at the level of the Government, effective leadership demands application of mind. Legal opinion is not the end all. If one is to go entirely by the views of the junior bureaucrat, a financial advisor or a legal opinion, leaders become redundant. The elected leadership in particular, is meant to moderate the views of all concerned and take appropriate decisions in the country’s interest. In the instant case the country’s leadership has failed in its obligations.
What is mutually acceptable solution? Accepting a date mid way? In cases like this, truth cannot be altered. If one were to ask if the officer would have been allowed to appear for the examination without proper verification of the educational qualification and date of birth by the UPSC or permitted to join the NDA by the Army Headquarters, the answer to the entire puzzle would have emerged. Ask any official of the UPSC handling these cases and they would have given the answer. Instead, the Government chose to confuse the issue beyond rational resolution.
A question has also been raised as to why the General did not accept the Government’s orders as he is covered under the Army Act. The Army Act mandates a soldier to obey only “Lawful Command”. Asking the Chief to accept a wrong date as his date of birth is falsehood and hence not a lawful command. On the same breath one would like to ask the proponents of this view, if in case the government wants a Lieutenant General to accept a date of birth which makes him 2 years younger than his correct date of birth for reasons that the Infantry Directorate maintained that date and being an Infantry Officer the Government is obliged to go by that date, should the officer accept that date? Why this double standards?
It is also being professed that the morale of the Armed Forces is being affected by the Chief going to the court and that this act of the Chief going to the court is not good for the Army. Rational thinking and a soldier’s mind suggests that in case the Chief had accepted the Government’s version of the date of birth and had decided to retire in 2012, the junior officers and the troops would have got away with the impression that the Army Chief indeed had told a lie to hang on to his post for a year longer and probably since the truth had been found, the Chief was saving his own face by accepting the Government’s version on the pretext of being a disciplined soldier. I leave it to the, people, the fraternity of the serving soldiers and the Military Veterans to decide which of the options would have affected the morale of the troops.
No one has so far clarified as to how the Chief going to the Court is not good for the Army. Are they suggesting that the bureaucracy would block all legitimate cases of procurement and modernization? If that be the case, so be it. Indian Army is not the Indian Army’s Army. It is India’s Army and it if for the people to decide what the country needs in terms of defence needs. The bureaucrats are no one to stand in-between the people and national interests. If the bureaucrats decide to field an ill equipped Army against an adversary and if lives and territory are lost, those concerned will be made to pay a very heavy price by the people.
Regards,
Brigadier V Mahalingam
My comments on Asian Age writings are:
On any issue especially at the level of the Government, effective leadership demands application of mind. Legal opinion is not the end all. If one is to go entirely by the views of the junior bureaucrat, a financial advisor or a legal opinion, leaders become redundant. The elected leadership in particular, is meant to moderate the views of all concerned and take appropriate decisions in the country’s interest. In the instant case the country’s leadership has failed in its obligations.
What is mutually acceptable solution? Accepting a date mid way? In cases like this, truth cannot be altered. If one were to ask if the officer would have been allowed to appear for the examination without proper verification of the educational qualification and date of birth by the UPSC or permitted to join the NDA by the Army Headquarters, the answer to the entire puzzle would have emerged. Ask any official of the UPSC handling these cases and they would have given the answer. Instead, the Government chose to confuse the issue beyond rational resolution.
A question has also been raised as to why the General did not accept the Government’s orders as he is covered under the Army Act. The Army Act mandates a soldier to obey only “Lawful Command”. Asking the Chief to accept a wrong date as his date of birth is falsehood and hence not a lawful command. On the same breath one would like to ask the proponents of this view, if in case the government wants a Lieutenant General to accept a date of birth which makes him 2 years younger than his correct date of birth for reasons that the Infantry Directorate maintained that date and being an Infantry Officer the Government is obliged to go by that date, should the officer accept that date? Why this double standards?
It is also being professed that the morale of the Armed Forces is being affected by the Chief going to the court and that this act of the Chief going to the court is not good for the Army. Rational thinking and a soldier’s mind suggests that in case the Chief had accepted the Government’s version of the date of birth and had decided to retire in 2012, the junior officers and the troops would have got away with the impression that the Army Chief indeed had told a lie to hang on to his post for a year longer and probably since the truth had been found, the Chief was saving his own face by accepting the Government’s version on the pretext of being a disciplined soldier. I leave it to the, people, the fraternity of the serving soldiers and the Military Veterans to decide which of the options would have affected the morale of the troops.
No one has so far clarified as to how the Chief going to the Court is not good for the Army. Are they suggesting that the bureaucracy would block all legitimate cases of procurement and modernization? If that be the case, so be it. Indian Army is not the Indian Army’s Army. It is India’s Army and it if for the people to decide what the country needs in terms of defence needs. The bureaucrats are no one to stand in-between the people and national interests. If the bureaucrats decide to field an ill equipped Army against an adversary and if lives and territory are lost, those concerned will be made to pay a very heavy price by the people.
Regards,
Brigadier V Mahalingam
Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Views of Gp Capt Subramanian
Dear Friends,
In principle I avoid joining such discussions or venturing any opinion.
It is perhaps quite a different thing to mention a fact which might be relevant.
As a techno-legal view, if the COAS resigns his commission before going to court and subsequently the court upholds his stand and gives a verdict that his yob is 1951, legally the Resigned / lost / surrendered President's Commission, CANNOT BE REVOKED AND HE CANNOT BE RE-COMMISSIONED.
In the attached Decision Flow Chart, The COAS has to consistently remain on the GREEN CHANNEL for achieving his aim of establishing his YOB (Year of birth) as 1951 and DERIVE BENEFIT from that.
For easy and lucid understanding, if he resigns his commission, he is an ordinary veteran like us. If he approaches the SC for determination of his DOB, the court would first ask him, even before admitting the petition, why he wants such determination and how he stands to benefit from such determination. He will be told that it is a futile exercise, as the commission once resigned , this action cannot be revoked, and it would be a fait accompli. If he says that it is a matter of his Integrity & Honour, he will be told that SC is already quite busy with huge backlogs, and cannot afford the luxury of entertaining such frivolous matters.
( I am providing this clarification, from personal experience. I went on deputation to HAL in May 1984 for 2 years, and as per the then prevalent practice, would have been extending my deputation until I became due for Air Cmde and come back to IAF. However, in Feb 1985, Rajiv Gandhi stopped all further deputations (except for Test Pilots and IPS Officers on Security & Vigilance Posts) and stipulated that no extensions would be given to already deputed officers. Came March 1986, and though I had been cleared for Air Cmde (as ascertained by HAL), as they had no vacancy of Addl General Manager to absorb me in, as an Air Cmde, they told me that I will certainly rise to the topmost post of Chief of Commercial Services, but would have to initially accept absorption as Deputy General Manager and that I should give my willingness for the same. As there was no likely vacancy of an Air Cmde, in the IAF for the next two years, and the possibility of moving into Corporate Office at Bangalore and remaining there until superannuation, if absorbed, I gave my willingness. HAL / Govt processed the premature retirement and absorption and were about to issue the Govt letter, when I had second thoughts and wanted to change my mind and withdraw my willingness.
On personally and physically approaching Air HQ / MOD, I was told that the file was just awaiting signature of the Raksha Rajya Mantri, and might even have been signed by the RRM, and that once that Statutory Authority signs the file, I would be deemed to have resigned my commission and there is no way or provision for restoring a resigned commission. Little did I realize then, that that single act would haunt me for more than quarter of a century and make me a PSU Absorbee Criminal for life. Perhaps, that was Divine Will. )
Hence, when somebody says on TV that the COAS should have resigned and then gone to court, they are "Talking through their hat", whether wearing one or not, and are providing only entertainment.
Sorry, for this long story. I had to do it because of the adage, " The most difficult thing in the world is for, a person to know how to do something correctly, see somebody doing it incorrectly, and KEEP QUIET". I had to adopt the easy way out.
Thanks for your patience and best wishes,
Gp Capt Subramanian
In principle I avoid joining such discussions or venturing any opinion.
It is perhaps quite a different thing to mention a fact which might be relevant.
As a techno-legal view, if the COAS resigns his commission before going to court and subsequently the court upholds his stand and gives a verdict that his yob is 1951, legally the Resigned / lost / surrendered President's Commission, CANNOT BE REVOKED AND HE CANNOT BE RE-COMMISSIONED.
In the attached Decision Flow Chart, The COAS has to consistently remain on the GREEN CHANNEL for achieving his aim of establishing his YOB (Year of birth) as 1951 and DERIVE BENEFIT from that.
For easy and lucid understanding, if he resigns his commission, he is an ordinary veteran like us. If he approaches the SC for determination of his DOB, the court would first ask him, even before admitting the petition, why he wants such determination and how he stands to benefit from such determination. He will be told that it is a futile exercise, as the commission once resigned , this action cannot be revoked, and it would be a fait accompli. If he says that it is a matter of his Integrity & Honour, he will be told that SC is already quite busy with huge backlogs, and cannot afford the luxury of entertaining such frivolous matters.
( I am providing this clarification, from personal experience. I went on deputation to HAL in May 1984 for 2 years, and as per the then prevalent practice, would have been extending my deputation until I became due for Air Cmde and come back to IAF. However, in Feb 1985, Rajiv Gandhi stopped all further deputations (except for Test Pilots and IPS Officers on Security & Vigilance Posts) and stipulated that no extensions would be given to already deputed officers. Came March 1986, and though I had been cleared for Air Cmde (as ascertained by HAL), as they had no vacancy of Addl General Manager to absorb me in, as an Air Cmde, they told me that I will certainly rise to the topmost post of Chief of Commercial Services, but would have to initially accept absorption as Deputy General Manager and that I should give my willingness for the same. As there was no likely vacancy of an Air Cmde, in the IAF for the next two years, and the possibility of moving into Corporate Office at Bangalore and remaining there until superannuation, if absorbed, I gave my willingness. HAL / Govt processed the premature retirement and absorption and were about to issue the Govt letter, when I had second thoughts and wanted to change my mind and withdraw my willingness.
On personally and physically approaching Air HQ / MOD, I was told that the file was just awaiting signature of the Raksha Rajya Mantri, and might even have been signed by the RRM, and that once that Statutory Authority signs the file, I would be deemed to have resigned my commission and there is no way or provision for restoring a resigned commission. Little did I realize then, that that single act would haunt me for more than quarter of a century and make me a PSU Absorbee Criminal for life. Perhaps, that was Divine Will. )
Hence, when somebody says on TV that the COAS should have resigned and then gone to court, they are "Talking through their hat", whether wearing one or not, and are providing only entertainment.
Sorry, for this long story. I had to do it because of the adage, " The most difficult thing in the world is for, a person to know how to do something correctly, see somebody doing it incorrectly, and KEEP QUIET". I had to adopt the easy way out.
Thanks for your patience and best wishes,
Gp Capt Subramanian
Govt ignored military secretary's recommendation on Army chief's age
India Today / India / North / StoryCourtesy: Headlines TodayShiv Aroor New Delhi, January 20, 2012 | UPDATED 17:44 IST
The Ministry of Defence ignored a crucial document which shows that Army chief General V.K Singh's contention on his age was accepted and there was no controversy on it within the forces. The document clearly gives the Army chief an edge over the government's stand on the issue in the court.
Headlines Today accessed the July 2011 note from the military secretary's (MS) branch which states that the chief's age be treated as May 10, 1951 and not 1950.
The document, signed by then military secretary Lt Gen G.M Nair, provides instances of selection boards that promoted V.K Singh up the ranks based on 1951 as the year of birth.
The reason why this document could prove crucial is that it was the MS branch that originally had in its possession the documents which recorded the chief's year of birth as 1950.
In other words, the document is the MS branch recommending that the anomalous records in its possession be ignored and 1951 be treated as the year of Singh's birth.
As it turned out, the government chose not to accept this recommendation. However sources told Headlines Today that the document strengthens the chief's case and could prove a trump card in the Supreme Court.
The document also lays to rest the notion that there was any internal conflict over the chief's age between the MS branch and the adjutant general's branch.
The Ministry of Defence ignored a crucial document which shows that Army chief General V.K Singh's contention on his age was accepted and there was no controversy on it within the forces. The document clearly gives the Army chief an edge over the government's stand on the issue in the court.
Headlines Today accessed the July 2011 note from the military secretary's (MS) branch which states that the chief's age be treated as May 10, 1951 and not 1950.
The document, signed by then military secretary Lt Gen G.M Nair, provides instances of selection boards that promoted V.K Singh up the ranks based on 1951 as the year of birth.
The reason why this document could prove crucial is that it was the MS branch that originally had in its possession the documents which recorded the chief's year of birth as 1950.
In other words, the document is the MS branch recommending that the anomalous records in its possession be ignored and 1951 be treated as the year of Singh's birth.
As it turned out, the government chose not to accept this recommendation. However sources told Headlines Today that the document strengthens the chief's case and could prove a trump card in the Supreme Court.
The document also lays to rest the notion that there was any internal conflict over the chief's age between the MS branch and the adjutant general's branch.
The Times of India-Editor Views of Wing commander (Retd) Shashank Bendre
Sir,
In his article "Bridging The Gap" (January 20) Admiral Sushil Kumar has brought the very crucial issue of Civil Military relationship to the fore.Unfortunately,it required the ongoing unseemly controversy over the date of birth of the present COAS unfolding into a major crisis, to bring it into focus.For the military,the reason for this conflict is very palpable- a result of the mistrust in which the military is held by the civilian authority.While the world powers understand that their military has an important role in planning strategic policies of their countries, the Indian military is kept at a hand's distance by the civilian authority.Moreover,the servicemen allege that the standing of the Armed Forces vis-a-vis their civil counterparts is being systematically lowered over the years, on purpose.They charge the bureaucracy of selfish motives in conspiring to see that the military is not given its due prestige in the scheme of things.Therefore,a distinction must be made between the bureaucratic and political authority to remove any misgivings.The civilian political leadership can no longer avoid addressing this anomaly to formalise a code of conduct and restore the dignity of the military before the situation goes out of hand.
Wing commander (Retd) Shashank Bendre
In his article "Bridging The Gap" (January 20) Admiral Sushil Kumar has brought the very crucial issue of Civil Military relationship to the fore.Unfortunately,it required the ongoing unseemly controversy over the date of birth of the present COAS unfolding into a major crisis, to bring it into focus.For the military,the reason for this conflict is very palpable- a result of the mistrust in which the military is held by the civilian authority.While the world powers understand that their military has an important role in planning strategic policies of their countries, the Indian military is kept at a hand's distance by the civilian authority.Moreover,the servicemen allege that the standing of the Armed Forces vis-a-vis their civil counterparts is being systematically lowered over the years, on purpose.They charge the bureaucracy of selfish motives in conspiring to see that the military is not given its due prestige in the scheme of things.Therefore,a distinction must be made between the bureaucratic and political authority to remove any misgivings.The civilian political leadership can no longer avoid addressing this anomaly to formalise a code of conduct and restore the dignity of the military before the situation goes out of hand.
Wing commander (Retd) Shashank Bendre
Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Ageing Indian Army: Anti- Insurgency/ Counter- Terrorism or a Combat Force?
The Asian Age Home » Opinion » Interview of the Week
‘In terms of manpower, the Indian Army is ageing’
This is a good interview. I endorse Gen Malik's views on most issues.
1. Defence Services must have greater voice in forming National Strategic policies. Not to be left to Group of Ministers, mostly.
2. Having a CDS is a must.
3. Our organisations and concepts of large scale operations in mountains are old. The Army in the mountains in particular has to become LEANER AND MEANER. Much greater integral heli lift is essential as also armed hepter resources.
4. Indian Army has got tired of operating in counter insurgency operations in J&K and in the East. How long can a unit remain in such areas, year after year. Pakistan has really bled us for the last 64 years. These guys have nothing to eat and spend and an individual can be hired to do Jehad for paltry sums. Our passive attitude has not served us well. The only way is to have a TIT for TAT policy. We have to ignite the flame in Balochistan and let the Pak Army bleed there. The British and the Americans would also be interested to boil up things in Balochistan. Pak Army only understands a strong response.
Veteran Harbhajan Singh
Lt Gen
Interview of the Week with General VP Malik Jan 15, 2012
On the occasion of Army Day, former Army Chief Gen. V.P. Malik says that the current method of civilian control over the military leaves much to be desired. He also tells Sridhar Kumaraswami that grouping all strike corps under a strategic command is not a good idea.
In what ways can a career in the Army be made more attractive? Does this require more cash incentives or just better parity with the civilian services?
Three requirements, in order of priority:
improved promotion prospects with a golden handshake early-retirement policy
improved civil-military services parity
greater respect for soldiers and ex-servicemen from the government and society. We need to revisit terms and conditions of service that were framed in a different socio-economic milieu many years ago.
‘In terms of manpower, the Indian Army is ageing’
This is a good interview. I endorse Gen Malik's views on most issues.
1. Defence Services must have greater voice in forming National Strategic policies. Not to be left to Group of Ministers, mostly.
2. Having a CDS is a must.
3. Our organisations and concepts of large scale operations in mountains are old. The Army in the mountains in particular has to become LEANER AND MEANER. Much greater integral heli lift is essential as also armed hepter resources.
4. Indian Army has got tired of operating in counter insurgency operations in J&K and in the East. How long can a unit remain in such areas, year after year. Pakistan has really bled us for the last 64 years. These guys have nothing to eat and spend and an individual can be hired to do Jehad for paltry sums. Our passive attitude has not served us well. The only way is to have a TIT for TAT policy. We have to ignite the flame in Balochistan and let the Pak Army bleed there. The British and the Americans would also be interested to boil up things in Balochistan. Pak Army only understands a strong response.
Veteran Harbhajan Singh
Lt Gen
Interview of the Week with General VP Malik Jan 15, 2012
On the occasion of Army Day, former Army Chief Gen. V.P. Malik says that the current method of civilian control over the military leaves much to be desired. He also tells Sridhar Kumaraswami that grouping all strike corps under a strategic command is not a good idea.
In what ways can a career in the Army be made more attractive? Does this require more cash incentives or just better parity with the civilian services?
Three requirements, in order of priority:
improved promotion prospects with a golden handshake early-retirement policy
improved civil-military services parity
greater respect for soldiers and ex-servicemen from the government and society. We need to revisit terms and conditions of service that were framed in a different socio-economic milieu many years ago.
Hooda offers war heroes annuity hike
By Daily PostBhiwani
Haryana Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda announced to increase the amount of lumpsum financial assistance and annuity of the gallantry award winners of the state. He also announced to get a survey conducted to assess repair and renovation of all the existing Sainik rest houses to be done as per their need and to construct a new Sainik rest house at Dadri.
The CM was speaking as chief guest in the 30th annual Sammelan of All India Ex-services Welfare Association organised at new Anaj Mandi, Dadri, on Sunday. He said the state government had decided to increase the award money of the winners of Paramvir Chakra and Ashok Chakra from Rs 25 lakh each to Rs 31 lakh each, of Mahavir Chakra and Kirti Chakra from Rs 15 lakh each to Rs 25 lakh each and of Vir Chakra and Shaurya Chakra from Rs 10 lakh each to Rs 15 lakh each.
Similarly, the amount being given to the winners of Vayusena medal, Navsena medal and Sena medal had also been increased from Rs five lakh to Rs 7.50 lakh and the amount for Mention-in-dispatches from Rs 2.50 lakh to Rs 5.50 lakh.
He said the annuity for the winners of Paramvir Chakra, Ashok Chakra and Mahavir Chakra had been increased to Rs 2.50 lakh, Rs 2 lakh and Rs 1.90 lakh respectively.
Besides, winners of Kirti Chakra, Shaurya Chakra and Sena medal would get annuity of Rs 1.50 lakh, Rs 70,000 and Rs 40,000 respectively. Annuity for mention-in-dispatches had been increased to Rs 20,000, he added. Hooda said it was a matter of great pride that Haryana with 1.37 per cent of the geographical area of the country was contributing a lot to the Armed Forces of the country.
Every tenth soldier of the Armed Forces belonged to Haryana. The youth of Haryana were safeguarding the borders of the country and the farmers of this sacred land were producing foodgrains for the teeming millions. Despite better availability of employment in the state, the youth of Haryana preferred to join Army.
The number of serving personnel and ex-servicemen of the state stood at 19.38 lakh. The state government was committed to the welfare of serving personnel, ex-servicemen and their dependents. For the welfare of these persons, the state government had made a provision of Rs 33 crore in the annual budget for the year 2011-12.
Citing details of the incentives being given to the serving personnel and ex-servicemen by the state government, Hooda said ex-servicemen above the age of 60 years and their widows, who are not getting any pension, were being given financial assistance of Rs 1,000 per month.
The war widows were being given a financial assistance of Rs 1,000 per month besides their monthly pension. The ex-servicemen, who took part in World War II and who were not getting any kind of pension, and their widows were being given a financial assistance of Rs 1500 per month by the state government. The blind ex-servicemen and handicapped ex-servicemen, who were not getting any kind of pension, were also being given a monthly financial assistance of Rs 1,000.
Hooda said 10 per cent residential plots floated by HUDA and 5 per cent houses built by Haryana Housing Board (HHB) have been reserved for ex-servicemen and serving personnel. Defence colonies were being set up at Rohtak, Rewari, Jhajjar, Hisar, Narnaul, Bahadurgarh, Jind, Dadri and Karnal by HUDA.
Hooda offers war heroes annuity hike
Haryana Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda announced to increase the amount of lumpsum financial assistance and annuity of the gallantry award winners of the state. He also announced to get a survey conducted to assess repair and renovation of all the existing Sainik rest houses to be done as per their need and to construct a new Sainik rest house at Dadri.
The CM was speaking as chief guest in the 30th annual Sammelan of All India Ex-services Welfare Association organised at new Anaj Mandi, Dadri, on Sunday. He said the state government had decided to increase the award money of the winners of Paramvir Chakra and Ashok Chakra from Rs 25 lakh each to Rs 31 lakh each, of Mahavir Chakra and Kirti Chakra from Rs 15 lakh each to Rs 25 lakh each and of Vir Chakra and Shaurya Chakra from Rs 10 lakh each to Rs 15 lakh each.
Similarly, the amount being given to the winners of Vayusena medal, Navsena medal and Sena medal had also been increased from Rs five lakh to Rs 7.50 lakh and the amount for Mention-in-dispatches from Rs 2.50 lakh to Rs 5.50 lakh.
He said the annuity for the winners of Paramvir Chakra, Ashok Chakra and Mahavir Chakra had been increased to Rs 2.50 lakh, Rs 2 lakh and Rs 1.90 lakh respectively.
Besides, winners of Kirti Chakra, Shaurya Chakra and Sena medal would get annuity of Rs 1.50 lakh, Rs 70,000 and Rs 40,000 respectively. Annuity for mention-in-dispatches had been increased to Rs 20,000, he added. Hooda said it was a matter of great pride that Haryana with 1.37 per cent of the geographical area of the country was contributing a lot to the Armed Forces of the country.
Every tenth soldier of the Armed Forces belonged to Haryana. The youth of Haryana were safeguarding the borders of the country and the farmers of this sacred land were producing foodgrains for the teeming millions. Despite better availability of employment in the state, the youth of Haryana preferred to join Army.
The number of serving personnel and ex-servicemen of the state stood at 19.38 lakh. The state government was committed to the welfare of serving personnel, ex-servicemen and their dependents. For the welfare of these persons, the state government had made a provision of Rs 33 crore in the annual budget for the year 2011-12.
Citing details of the incentives being given to the serving personnel and ex-servicemen by the state government, Hooda said ex-servicemen above the age of 60 years and their widows, who are not getting any pension, were being given financial assistance of Rs 1,000 per month.
The war widows were being given a financial assistance of Rs 1,000 per month besides their monthly pension. The ex-servicemen, who took part in World War II and who were not getting any kind of pension, and their widows were being given a financial assistance of Rs 1500 per month by the state government. The blind ex-servicemen and handicapped ex-servicemen, who were not getting any kind of pension, were also being given a monthly financial assistance of Rs 1,000.
Hooda said 10 per cent residential plots floated by HUDA and 5 per cent houses built by Haryana Housing Board (HHB) have been reserved for ex-servicemen and serving personnel. Defence colonies were being set up at Rohtak, Rewari, Jhajjar, Hisar, Narnaul, Bahadurgarh, Jind, Dadri and Karnal by HUDA.
Hooda offers war heroes annuity hike
Monday, January 23, 2012
Defence Service Officers Subjected to Functional Degradation
Discrimination & Agony of Defence Service Officers Continues
ISSUE OF NFU (NON FUNCTIONAL UPGRADATION) NEEDS URGENT ATTENTION
1. All Defence Offrs, please be informed that Offrs of other services with whom you interact on functional basis, like MES Civ Offrs, GREF Civ Offrs, Offrs of BSF, CRPF ,ITBP, Def Accts(IDAS), Test Audit(IA&AS), Ord Factory Bd etc, will now get the salary and grade pay of Joint Secretary/ Maj Gen (GP Rs 10000/-) in 19 yrs of service, and will draw the pay of Addl Secretary to Govt of India which is equal to a Lt Gen(GP Rs 12000/-) in 32 yrs of service by virtue of their service being Organised Gp A Service.
2. The above condition has been brought about consequent to acceptance of 6 CPC recom on NFU by GoI, wherein it recommended that whenever any IAS officer of the state or joint cadre is posted at the Centre to a particular grade carrying a specific grade pay in Pay Bands PB-3 or PB-4,the officers belonging to batches of Organised Group A services that are senior by two years or more and have not been promoted so far to that particular grade would be granted the same grade on a non functional basis from the date of posting of the IAS officers in that grade at the centre. Hence if an IAS officer becomes Joint Secretary in 17 years of service the offrs of Org Gp A Service(like the ones mentioned in Para 1) will start drawing the salary of Joint Secretary in maximum of 19 years of service and similarly that of Addl Secretary / Lt Gen in 30 and 32 yrs resp.
3. Why is it not applicable to Def Offrs: Because as per Govt of India Defence Officers are NOT part of Organic Gp A Services and the above recommendation is applicable to only to the latter.
4. If Def Offrs are not part of Org Gp A service then what are they: They are just ‘Commissioned Officers’.
5. If all the above is correct then who all form part of Org Gp A Services and then how come Defence Officers are bracketted as Class 1 offrs: Central Civil Services mainly include AIS (All India Services, namely, IAS, IPS and Indian Forest Service) and Org Gp A service. There are a total of 58 services forming part of Org Gp A service. Defence Officers are not part of Civil Services but have been broadly kept at par with Gp A Offrs of Civil Services(erstwhile known as Class 1 offrs) by various Pay Commissions. The reference to same since independence.
6. Background to recommendation of NFU for Org Gp A Service as per 6 CPC:
(a) The Sixth CPC observed that there is a conventional edge of two years between IAS and other AIS/ Central Group A services and stated that though the Fifth CPC had taken the view that the edge need not be disturbed, in practice, however, the gap of two years (for posting to various grades in the Centre in form of empanelment of IAS officers and promotion for other Group A officers), has increased in respect of many organised Group A services.
(b) The sixth CPC felt that this is not justified as Organised Group A services have to be given their due which justifiably should mean that the disparity, as far as appointment to various grades in Centre are concerned, should not exceed two years between IAS and organised Central Group A services. It recommended that the Government should, accordingly, consider batch-wise parity while empanelling and/or posting at Centre between respective batches of IAS and other organised Group A services with the gap being restricted to two years.
(c) Therefore whenever any IAS officer of the state or joint cadre is posted at the Centre to a particular grade carrying a specific grade pay in Pay Bands PB-3 or PB-4, the officers belonging to batches of Organised Group A services that are senior by two years or more and have not been promoted so far to that particular grade would be granted the same grade on a non functional basis from the date of posting of the IAS officers in that grade at the centre.
(d) The higher non-functional grade so given to the officers of organised Group A services will be personal to them and will not depend on the number of vacancies in that grade.
(e) These officers will continue in their existing posts and will get substantial posting in the higher grade that they are holding on non functional basis only after vacancies arise in that grade. This will not only ensure some sort of modified parity between IAS and other Central Group A services but will also alleviate the present grade of disparity existing between promotional avenues available to different organised Group A services.
(f) The Government accepted the recommendations of Sixth CPC and granted the NFU to Organized GP A Services .
7. Why should the def offrs get NFU: Because for the following reasons:
None of the Org Gp A service faces as much stagnation as the Armed Forces officers because of its pyramidal structure. In fact, on the contrary, most of the Gp A service offrs, as it is, reach the level equal to Addl Secretary due to cylindrical structure of promotion of their service. Only issue for them is,’ in how many years’. In comparison, 97% defence officers retire at the levels below Joint Secretary/ Maj Gen. Hence, if the logic of giving NFU to Org Gp A offrs is stagnation, then, no one deserves it more than the Armed Forces Offrs.
Traditionally, since independence, there has been a broad parity between the Class 1 / Gp A offrs of Civil Services and the Defence Services Officers which has been acknowledged by different Pay Commissions in their reports. In such a case, the differential behaviour of 6 CPC not only disturbs the financial parity, it pushes down the defence services in status as even directly recruited officers of Gp B services attain a better pay and promotional avenue and manage to reach the level of Joint Secretary/ Maj Gen before retiring. In fact, now Sub Inspectors of CRPF/ BSF/ ITBP too can beat Defence Services Officers when they too will retire with the salary of Addl Secretary/ Lt Gen, if they get promoted as Asstt Comdt/ DSP in 8 yrs. All this will only fuel frustration, disgruntlement and will have a demoralising effect on the Armed Forces Offrs.
Since Def Offrs will have to work alongside some of the Organised Gp A Services mentioned, a disparity of this magnitude will lead to functional problems .In some stations, it is already being heard that Civ Offrs have started projecting themselves as senior to top military offr like Stn Cdr. In a specific case a Civ Chief Engineer of MES has started considering himself senior to a COS due to NFU and started saying so all around. Such problems will only increase in future. Moreover, this issue must not be allowed to linger till 7th CPC for resolution. If our top brass stands up united on this issue, the Government will have to accept it. Service HQs are aware of this issue and had sent a proposal to MoD, but it has been rejected. However, the issue needs a more forceful pleading duly backed by Service Officers unanimously.
8. Benefits of NFU: It will not only benefit the officers facing stagnation at the level of Lt Col, Col, and Brig, but will also benefit senior offrs like Maj Gen and Lt Gen who otherwise pick up their ranks in 29 yrs and 35 yrs respectively, as they will too start drawing the pay of Maj Gen in 19 yrs of service and that of Lt Gen in 32 yrs of service.
9. What can you do: Don’t accept ‘fait accompli’, Spread awareness, as knowledge is power. Apprise more and more officers about this discrimination. Raise it in appropriate forums to escalate its level and let the top brass take it up as seriously as PB-4 issue with the govt for IT IS, AS SERIOUS AN ISSUE. It not only affects pay, it also affects status. So please do your bit, at least ask for it from your seniors. If you have anything more to add to this article, which is relevant and factually correct, please go ahead and add on for the benefit of all, and circulate this in your yahoo/ google/ any other groups of various courses/ batches on the internet.
CAN ANYONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
ISSUE OF NFU (NON FUNCTIONAL UPGRADATION) NEEDS URGENT ATTENTION
1. All Defence Offrs, please be informed that Offrs of other services with whom you interact on functional basis, like MES Civ Offrs, GREF Civ Offrs, Offrs of BSF, CRPF ,ITBP, Def Accts(IDAS), Test Audit(IA&AS), Ord Factory Bd etc, will now get the salary and grade pay of Joint Secretary/ Maj Gen (GP Rs 10000/-) in 19 yrs of service, and will draw the pay of Addl Secretary to Govt of India which is equal to a Lt Gen(GP Rs 12000/-) in 32 yrs of service by virtue of their service being Organised Gp A Service.
2. The above condition has been brought about consequent to acceptance of 6 CPC recom on NFU by GoI, wherein it recommended that whenever any IAS officer of the state or joint cadre is posted at the Centre to a particular grade carrying a specific grade pay in Pay Bands PB-3 or PB-4,the officers belonging to batches of Organised Group A services that are senior by two years or more and have not been promoted so far to that particular grade would be granted the same grade on a non functional basis from the date of posting of the IAS officers in that grade at the centre. Hence if an IAS officer becomes Joint Secretary in 17 years of service the offrs of Org Gp A Service(like the ones mentioned in Para 1) will start drawing the salary of Joint Secretary in maximum of 19 years of service and similarly that of Addl Secretary / Lt Gen in 30 and 32 yrs resp.
3. Why is it not applicable to Def Offrs: Because as per Govt of India Defence Officers are NOT part of Organic Gp A Services and the above recommendation is applicable to only to the latter.
4. If Def Offrs are not part of Org Gp A service then what are they: They are just ‘Commissioned Officers’.
5. If all the above is correct then who all form part of Org Gp A Services and then how come Defence Officers are bracketted as Class 1 offrs: Central Civil Services mainly include AIS (All India Services, namely, IAS, IPS and Indian Forest Service) and Org Gp A service. There are a total of 58 services forming part of Org Gp A service. Defence Officers are not part of Civil Services but have been broadly kept at par with Gp A Offrs of Civil Services(erstwhile known as Class 1 offrs) by various Pay Commissions. The reference to same since independence.
6. Background to recommendation of NFU for Org Gp A Service as per 6 CPC:
(a) The Sixth CPC observed that there is a conventional edge of two years between IAS and other AIS/ Central Group A services and stated that though the Fifth CPC had taken the view that the edge need not be disturbed, in practice, however, the gap of two years (for posting to various grades in the Centre in form of empanelment of IAS officers and promotion for other Group A officers), has increased in respect of many organised Group A services.
(b) The sixth CPC felt that this is not justified as Organised Group A services have to be given their due which justifiably should mean that the disparity, as far as appointment to various grades in Centre are concerned, should not exceed two years between IAS and organised Central Group A services. It recommended that the Government should, accordingly, consider batch-wise parity while empanelling and/or posting at Centre between respective batches of IAS and other organised Group A services with the gap being restricted to two years.
(c) Therefore whenever any IAS officer of the state or joint cadre is posted at the Centre to a particular grade carrying a specific grade pay in Pay Bands PB-3 or PB-4, the officers belonging to batches of Organised Group A services that are senior by two years or more and have not been promoted so far to that particular grade would be granted the same grade on a non functional basis from the date of posting of the IAS officers in that grade at the centre.
(d) The higher non-functional grade so given to the officers of organised Group A services will be personal to them and will not depend on the number of vacancies in that grade.
(e) These officers will continue in their existing posts and will get substantial posting in the higher grade that they are holding on non functional basis only after vacancies arise in that grade. This will not only ensure some sort of modified parity between IAS and other Central Group A services but will also alleviate the present grade of disparity existing between promotional avenues available to different organised Group A services.
(f) The Government accepted the recommendations of Sixth CPC and granted the NFU to Organized GP A Services .
7. Why should the def offrs get NFU: Because for the following reasons:
None of the Org Gp A service faces as much stagnation as the Armed Forces officers because of its pyramidal structure. In fact, on the contrary, most of the Gp A service offrs, as it is, reach the level equal to Addl Secretary due to cylindrical structure of promotion of their service. Only issue for them is,’ in how many years’. In comparison, 97% defence officers retire at the levels below Joint Secretary/ Maj Gen. Hence, if the logic of giving NFU to Org Gp A offrs is stagnation, then, no one deserves it more than the Armed Forces Offrs.
Traditionally, since independence, there has been a broad parity between the Class 1 / Gp A offrs of Civil Services and the Defence Services Officers which has been acknowledged by different Pay Commissions in their reports. In such a case, the differential behaviour of 6 CPC not only disturbs the financial parity, it pushes down the defence services in status as even directly recruited officers of Gp B services attain a better pay and promotional avenue and manage to reach the level of Joint Secretary/ Maj Gen before retiring. In fact, now Sub Inspectors of CRPF/ BSF/ ITBP too can beat Defence Services Officers when they too will retire with the salary of Addl Secretary/ Lt Gen, if they get promoted as Asstt Comdt/ DSP in 8 yrs. All this will only fuel frustration, disgruntlement and will have a demoralising effect on the Armed Forces Offrs.
Since Def Offrs will have to work alongside some of the Organised Gp A Services mentioned, a disparity of this magnitude will lead to functional problems .In some stations, it is already being heard that Civ Offrs have started projecting themselves as senior to top military offr like Stn Cdr. In a specific case a Civ Chief Engineer of MES has started considering himself senior to a COS due to NFU and started saying so all around. Such problems will only increase in future. Moreover, this issue must not be allowed to linger till 7th CPC for resolution. If our top brass stands up united on this issue, the Government will have to accept it. Service HQs are aware of this issue and had sent a proposal to MoD, but it has been rejected. However, the issue needs a more forceful pleading duly backed by Service Officers unanimously.
8. Benefits of NFU: It will not only benefit the officers facing stagnation at the level of Lt Col, Col, and Brig, but will also benefit senior offrs like Maj Gen and Lt Gen who otherwise pick up their ranks in 29 yrs and 35 yrs respectively, as they will too start drawing the pay of Maj Gen in 19 yrs of service and that of Lt Gen in 32 yrs of service.
9. What can you do: Don’t accept ‘fait accompli’, Spread awareness, as knowledge is power. Apprise more and more officers about this discrimination. Raise it in appropriate forums to escalate its level and let the top brass take it up as seriously as PB-4 issue with the govt for IT IS, AS SERIOUS AN ISSUE. It not only affects pay, it also affects status. So please do your bit, at least ask for it from your seniors. If you have anything more to add to this article, which is relevant and factually correct, please go ahead and add on for the benefit of all, and circulate this in your yahoo/ google/ any other groups of various courses/ batches on the internet.
CAN ANYONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
SEMINAR OF ESM ORGANISATIONS...Col (Retd) TN Raman
AN APPROACH PAPER
SEMINAR OF ESM ORGANISATIONS
( Col (Retd) TN Raman)
Introduction
1. I thank all the Veterans who have responded to my appeal for a Seminar of all ESM Organisations. At the outset, I wish to clarify that there was & is, no intention of floating any New ESM Organisation in the form of a Federation. The concept of Federational approach to be adopted by the existing ESM Organisations is the most important factor to be considered. This concept will help the ESM Organisations, which are working for the same cause with divergent views & methods, to harness their strength in Unity, focus the attention at National level to the real problems of the ESM as a community & act in unison to achieve our goals.
2. The idea is not to break up any Organisation to form a new one. Instead to allow each Organisation to flourish on its own slated path, bring about the cohesion that is required to build up a National level challenge to the arbitrary decisions of the Govt in power.
3. How to achieve this objective is what to be discussed in the Seminar. Such an ideal situation cannot be wished for, unless the major ESM Organisations come together & debate.
Points for Discussion in the Seminar
4. The proposed points for discussion in the Seminar are given below.
a. Projection of our demand of OROP. This was the main issue which dominated the entire struggle of IESM over the last year, which led to various forms of protests including the Return of Medals. Though it could galvanize the emotions, sympathy & the spirit of the ESM as a whole & projected a nascent IESM to lime light, it could not muster the numbers required to dominate the proceedings. With the result, some of the leading ESM Organisations could not see eye to eye with the concept of OROP as envisaged by IESM. The result was the OTI or PIP concept the Govt managed to push through. Since the time for post mortem is over, what should be our future strategy? Are we capable of achieving this by the present form of dissipated protests by individual Organisations & a few interviews in the Electronic Media? Or is there a requirement of synergising our efforts into a single forum, however loosely knit & by whatever name we may call it?
b. ESM Welfare. The present ESM Welfare set up, both at the Centre & States level are well known to all of us. We are also aware of the enormous funds that are available for this activity. We are also aware that all ESM Committees floated by the Centre or the States are dominated by non ESM members. What should be our Road Map for the future ESM Welfare Management?
c. ECHS. The subject of medical facilities to the ESM & their dependents, or the lack of it is the predominant issue today. Various Seminars & Interactive Sessions are being held Nation wide. But the benefits have not trickled down to the Rural Areas. How to revamp the system?
d. Second Career for the Veterans. We have discussed various probable avenues for the assured employment of Veterans till the age of 60 years. But no concrete proposal, which is implementable, has emerged so far. Can we jointly submit a paper to the Govt on this issue?
Conclusion
5. The above mentioned points are only a few that require detailed discussion & decision taken. There may be some more points which require urgent resolution. It is unfortunate that the enormous potential of the ESM Community in Nation Building & other constructive tasks has not come to light so far. All this can be achieved only by us all joining our hands together. Not necessarily in the literal sense. But, emotionally & morally.
6. I am not the first one to moot the idea of a Seminar. Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi, Maj Gen RN Radhakrisnan, Maj Gen Inderjit Kashyap & a few others had already found the necessity of the same. I am trying to give a shape to their thoughts.
7. You comments, views & suggestions would be of great help to me.
Veteran Raman
The mail below was addressed only to the Core Group, IESM, some three weeks back.
SEMINAR OF ESM ORGANISATIONS
( Col (Retd) TN Raman)
Introduction
1. I thank all the Veterans who have responded to my appeal for a Seminar of all ESM Organisations. At the outset, I wish to clarify that there was & is, no intention of floating any New ESM Organisation in the form of a Federation. The concept of Federational approach to be adopted by the existing ESM Organisations is the most important factor to be considered. This concept will help the ESM Organisations, which are working for the same cause with divergent views & methods, to harness their strength in Unity, focus the attention at National level to the real problems of the ESM as a community & act in unison to achieve our goals.
2. The idea is not to break up any Organisation to form a new one. Instead to allow each Organisation to flourish on its own slated path, bring about the cohesion that is required to build up a National level challenge to the arbitrary decisions of the Govt in power.
3. How to achieve this objective is what to be discussed in the Seminar. Such an ideal situation cannot be wished for, unless the major ESM Organisations come together & debate.
Points for Discussion in the Seminar
4. The proposed points for discussion in the Seminar are given below.
a. Projection of our demand of OROP. This was the main issue which dominated the entire struggle of IESM over the last year, which led to various forms of protests including the Return of Medals. Though it could galvanize the emotions, sympathy & the spirit of the ESM as a whole & projected a nascent IESM to lime light, it could not muster the numbers required to dominate the proceedings. With the result, some of the leading ESM Organisations could not see eye to eye with the concept of OROP as envisaged by IESM. The result was the OTI or PIP concept the Govt managed to push through. Since the time for post mortem is over, what should be our future strategy? Are we capable of achieving this by the present form of dissipated protests by individual Organisations & a few interviews in the Electronic Media? Or is there a requirement of synergising our efforts into a single forum, however loosely knit & by whatever name we may call it?
b. ESM Welfare. The present ESM Welfare set up, both at the Centre & States level are well known to all of us. We are also aware of the enormous funds that are available for this activity. We are also aware that all ESM Committees floated by the Centre or the States are dominated by non ESM members. What should be our Road Map for the future ESM Welfare Management?
c. ECHS. The subject of medical facilities to the ESM & their dependents, or the lack of it is the predominant issue today. Various Seminars & Interactive Sessions are being held Nation wide. But the benefits have not trickled down to the Rural Areas. How to revamp the system?
d. Second Career for the Veterans. We have discussed various probable avenues for the assured employment of Veterans till the age of 60 years. But no concrete proposal, which is implementable, has emerged so far. Can we jointly submit a paper to the Govt on this issue?
Conclusion
5. The above mentioned points are only a few that require detailed discussion & decision taken. There may be some more points which require urgent resolution. It is unfortunate that the enormous potential of the ESM Community in Nation Building & other constructive tasks has not come to light so far. All this can be achieved only by us all joining our hands together. Not necessarily in the literal sense. But, emotionally & morally.
6. I am not the first one to moot the idea of a Seminar. Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi, Maj Gen RN Radhakrisnan, Maj Gen Inderjit Kashyap & a few others had already found the necessity of the same. I am trying to give a shape to their thoughts.
7. You comments, views & suggestions would be of great help to me.
Veteran Raman
The mail below was addressed only to the Core Group, IESM, some three weeks back.
Friday, January 13, 2012
ANOTHER SPANNER PROPOSED BY UOI: IV CPC RANK PAY CASE
The UOI has suggested another 'spanner' to cause delay in the IV CPC rank pay case.In its affidivit filed the UOI says that the Central Govt is open and willing to constitute an independent commission headed by a retired judge of the Supreme Court to examine the correctness of the implementation of the recommendations by IV CPC related to rank pay as given in para 28.113 of its report and to make recommendations for further improvements to the proceedure for disbursement of pension to retired Armed forces personnel based on Govt orders subsequent to VI CPC recommendations
THIS IS PURE HOGWASH AND ONLY TO DELAY MATTERS. RDOA IS NOT GOING TO BUY THIS LINE OF ACTION.
Further it says:Apart from the enormous financial implications, actual implementation of the Hon'ble Court's order would involve the following stages;
(a) Revision of pay of offrs on 1/1/1986, 1/1/1996, and 1/1/2006 with simultaneous revision of all pay linked allowances/benefits.
(b) Calculation of DA on slab basis from 1/1/1986 to 31/12/1995 is time consuming
(c) Revision of retirement benefits (gratuity, leave encashment)of offrs retiring after 1/1/1986
(d) Revision of pension on 1/1/1986, 1/1/1996, 1/1/2006.
(e) Revision of family pension based on revision of pension of offr
(f) Payments to be made to legal heirs of deceased offrs
(g) Interest @ 6 % per annum for upto 24 yrs in each case will have to be calculated and paid.
This would be a protracted exercise taking a lot of time and involving huge manpower as each case will have to be examined/ calculated individually.
RDOA comment. UOI is responsible for this faux pas and should do the needful and pay the offrs their legitimate dues. The Court should raise the penalty to 18% for causing unnecessary delays in implementing court orders.
Next hearing is due on 18 Jan 2012
THIS IS PURE HOGWASH AND ONLY TO DELAY MATTERS. RDOA IS NOT GOING TO BUY THIS LINE OF ACTION.
Further it says:Apart from the enormous financial implications, actual implementation of the Hon'ble Court's order would involve the following stages;
(a) Revision of pay of offrs on 1/1/1986, 1/1/1996, and 1/1/2006 with simultaneous revision of all pay linked allowances/benefits.
(b) Calculation of DA on slab basis from 1/1/1986 to 31/12/1995 is time consuming
(c) Revision of retirement benefits (gratuity, leave encashment)of offrs retiring after 1/1/1986
(d) Revision of pension on 1/1/1986, 1/1/1996, 1/1/2006.
(e) Revision of family pension based on revision of pension of offr
(f) Payments to be made to legal heirs of deceased offrs
(g) Interest @ 6 % per annum for upto 24 yrs in each case will have to be calculated and paid.
This would be a protracted exercise taking a lot of time and involving huge manpower as each case will have to be examined/ calculated individually.
RDOA comment. UOI is responsible for this faux pas and should do the needful and pay the offrs their legitimate dues. The Court should raise the penalty to 18% for causing unnecessary delays in implementing court orders.
Next hearing is due on 18 Jan 2012
Tuesday, January 3, 2012
Minimum Pension
Minimum Pension.
Wef 01-01-06 the minimum rates of pension for various
types of pension for are as follows:-
(a) Retiring & Ordinary family pension - Rs 3500/- PM + DR
(b) Special &Liberalised family pension - Rs 7000/-PM + DR
(c) Min Disability element for officers (for 100% disability, - Rs 8100/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(d) Min Disability element for other ranks (for 100% disability, - Rs 3510/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(e) Min Disability pension (total of service +disability element) - Rs 7000/- PM + DR
For permanent Disability not less than 60%
(f) Min war injury element for officers (for 100% disability on - Rs 16200/-PM+ DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(g) Min war injury element for other ranks (for 100% disability on - Rs 7020/- PM + DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability
Wef 01-01-06 the minimum rates of pension for various
types of pension for are as follows:-
(a) Retiring & Ordinary family pension - Rs 3500/- PM + DR
(b) Special &Liberalised family pension - Rs 7000/-PM + DR
(c) Min Disability element for officers (for 100% disability, - Rs 8100/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(d) Min Disability element for other ranks (for 100% disability, - Rs 3510/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(e) Min Disability pension (total of service +disability element) - Rs 7000/- PM + DR
For permanent Disability not less than 60%
(f) Min war injury element for officers (for 100% disability on - Rs 16200/-PM+ DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(g) Min war injury element for other ranks (for 100% disability on - Rs 7020/- PM + DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability
Minimum Pension.
Minimum Pension.
Wef 01-01-06 the minimum rates of pension for various
types of pension for are as follows:-
(a) Retiring & Ordinary family pension - Rs 3500/- PM + DR
(b) Special &Liberalised family pension - Rs 7000/-PM + DR
(c) Min Disability element for officers (for 100% disability, - Rs 8100/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(d) Min Disability element for other ranks (for 100% disability, - Rs 3510/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(e) Min Disability pension (total of service +disability element) - Rs 7000/- PM + DR
For permanent Disability not less than 60%
(f) Min war injury element for officers (for 100% disability on - Rs 16200/-PM+ DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(g) Min war injury element for other ranks (for 100% disability on - Rs 7020/- PM + DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability
Wef 01-01-06 the minimum rates of pension for various
types of pension for are as follows:-
(a) Retiring & Ordinary family pension - Rs 3500/- PM + DR
(b) Special &Liberalised family pension - Rs 7000/-PM + DR
(c) Min Disability element for officers (for 100% disability, - Rs 8100/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(d) Min Disability element for other ranks (for 100% disability, - Rs 3510/- PM + DR
Proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(e) Min Disability pension (total of service +disability element) - Rs 7000/- PM + DR
For permanent Disability not less than 60%
(f) Min war injury element for officers (for 100% disability on - Rs 16200/-PM+ DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability)
(g) Min war injury element for other ranks (for 100% disability on - Rs 7020/- PM + DR
retirement/Discharge, proportionate reduction for lesser disability
Govt's next battle: Against army chief Ajai Shukla
Govt's next battle: Against army chief
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi January 1, 2012, 0:13 IST
The UPA government, still smarting from the Lok Pal Bill fiasco in the Rajya Sabha, already contemplates its next battle. Business Standard has learnt that the Chief of Army Staff (COAS), General V K Singh, plans to petition the Supreme Court on Monday after the Ministry of Defence (MoD) yesterday rejected his statutory complaint asking for his date of birth to be reconciled.
The army chief contends (supported by 19 documents, including matriculation and birth certificates) that he was born on May 10, 1951. That makes him eligible to serve till May 31, 2013, when he would retire after completing 62 years that month. The Adjutant General’s (AG’s) Branch, the army’s official record keeper, supports that date. But the Military Secretary’s Branch, which handles promotions, has him born on May 10, 1950 and, therefore, due for retirement on May 31, 2012. The MoD has ruled that the latter date is correct.
“The chief will leave on January 5 for an official visit to Myanmar. Before that, he would like to file his writ petition, to which he is entitled as a citizen of India,” says a close aide to Singh.
Sources close to Singh describe him as “extremely bitter” at the government’s “backstabbing” over this issue. They say Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee was mediating with the army chief on behalf of the government. After Singh refused the offer of a post-retirement ambassadorship or governorship, retorting that this was a matter of honour, Mukherjee is said to have asked the chief to wait till January 16, 2012, when a face-saving compromise would be worked out. To the army chief’s surprise yesterday, the government rejected his petition.
Approached for comments, Mukherjee’s office admitted the finance minister met Singh yesterday, in a closed-door one-on-one meeting. But the official denied that the date-of-birth issue was discussed. “So many people discuss different things with the finance minister. We cannot reveal what they talked,” the official said.
Govt's next battle: Against army chief
COAS to resign ahead of tenure?
General Singh is consulting legal experts, including three former Chief Justices of India, and they have strongly supported him. Sources say the Army chief has two options: Either to go to the Armed Forces Tribunal, or move to Supreme Court directly. The Supreme Court is already hearing a Public Interest Litigation over the issue.
Sources also say that General Singh has also not ruled out resigning ahead of his tenure ending on May 31, 2012 - the date which the government has now decided.
Read more at: click here
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi January 1, 2012, 0:13 IST
The UPA government, still smarting from the Lok Pal Bill fiasco in the Rajya Sabha, already contemplates its next battle. Business Standard has learnt that the Chief of Army Staff (COAS), General V K Singh, plans to petition the Supreme Court on Monday after the Ministry of Defence (MoD) yesterday rejected his statutory complaint asking for his date of birth to be reconciled.
The army chief contends (supported by 19 documents, including matriculation and birth certificates) that he was born on May 10, 1951. That makes him eligible to serve till May 31, 2013, when he would retire after completing 62 years that month. The Adjutant General’s (AG’s) Branch, the army’s official record keeper, supports that date. But the Military Secretary’s Branch, which handles promotions, has him born on May 10, 1950 and, therefore, due for retirement on May 31, 2012. The MoD has ruled that the latter date is correct.
“The chief will leave on January 5 for an official visit to Myanmar. Before that, he would like to file his writ petition, to which he is entitled as a citizen of India,” says a close aide to Singh.
Sources close to Singh describe him as “extremely bitter” at the government’s “backstabbing” over this issue. They say Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee was mediating with the army chief on behalf of the government. After Singh refused the offer of a post-retirement ambassadorship or governorship, retorting that this was a matter of honour, Mukherjee is said to have asked the chief to wait till January 16, 2012, when a face-saving compromise would be worked out. To the army chief’s surprise yesterday, the government rejected his petition.
Approached for comments, Mukherjee’s office admitted the finance minister met Singh yesterday, in a closed-door one-on-one meeting. But the official denied that the date-of-birth issue was discussed. “So many people discuss different things with the finance minister. We cannot reveal what they talked,” the official said.
Govt's next battle: Against army chief
COAS to resign ahead of tenure?
General Singh is consulting legal experts, including three former Chief Justices of India, and they have strongly supported him. Sources say the Army chief has two options: Either to go to the Armed Forces Tribunal, or move to Supreme Court directly. The Supreme Court is already hearing a Public Interest Litigation over the issue.
Sources also say that General Singh has also not ruled out resigning ahead of his tenure ending on May 31, 2012 - the date which the government has now decided.
Read more at: click here
One Rank One Pension gets buried with Lokpal Bill
hr singh - canada
Indian defence pensioners owe a gratitude to the Petition Committee of Rajya Sabha headed by Shri Rajeev Chandrasekhar MP for recommending the government to implement One Rank One Pension(OROP) in defence forces. It is an historic decision for which the defence pensioners had been demanding that all defence pensioners should get similar pension for putting in equal numbers of years of service and retiring at the same rank irrespective of the date of retirement. A glaring example of disparity and discrimination during the implementation of fourth CPC recommendation when the rates of pension of a Captain like me with 16 years of service were less than a L/Corporal with equal years of service retiring under the same pay commission. My pension with 16 years of service was fixed as Rs. 437/pm whereas pension of the following ranks with 16 years of service and retiring under the same pay commission was fixed as follows: MWO-1031, WO-941, JWO-809, SGT-592, Corporal-521, LAN CORP-455. One can imagine the height of discrimination. Hope the government will soon end the disparity
Implement one rank, one pension: Par panel to govt
Last Updated: Monday, December 26, 2011,
In its report, the Rajya Sabha Petitions Committee said the financial liability of Rs 1,300 crores is not very big amount to deny the parity in pension, the release said. The Committee rejected Finance Ministry's apprehension of that acceptance of the demand for equal pension to personnel of equal rank and equal length of service will trigger similar request from other government employees. The Committee pointed out that "terms and conditions of defence personnel and civil servants are vastly different and said the demand of armed forces personnel demand for OROP was unresolved due to bureaucratic apathy".
The Rajya Sabha Committee on Petitions is headed by Bhagat Singh Koshyari (BJP)
Monday, December 26, 2011
Brig Rattan Nath Sharma..demise...Mahavir chakra
For a soldier who braved enemy bullets and was decorated with the nation’s second highest gallantry award, losing his life while merely standing on the roadside is a strange twist of fate.
Brig Rattan Nath Sharma was killed after being allegedly hit by a speeding vehicle while he was waiting for a bus near Kharar, near here, yesterday. He succumbed to his injuries today while being taken to the PGIMER.
On a complaint by his son-in-law, Gurpreet Singh, the Kharar police has registered a case of negligent driving against Pankaj, driver of the vehicle. A case under Sections 279 and 304-A, IPC, has been registered at the City Kharar police station.
According to information, Brigadier Sharma belonged to Palampur and had come to Kharar for some property matter. He was knocked down by the vehicle yesterday and rushed to a local hospital. It was only after the police found a diary on his person containing the telephone number of a CSD in Palampur that his identity could be ascertained.
He is survived by his wife, a son, who looks after the family estate in Palampur, and two daughters, both doctors. His daughter and son-in-law reached here at around midnight after the family was informed about the mishap.
Brigadier Sharma was commissioned into the Punjab Regiment in August 1949, and decorated with the Maha Vir Chakra for commanding a battalion of the Punjab Regiment in the Poonch Sector of Jammu and Kashmir during the 1971 Indo-Pak war. He had been tasked to capture a strong and fortified enemy post situated on a dominating feature. The then Lt-Col Sharma encouraged his men by his presence and courage to achieve the given task.
His cremation is scheduled to take place with full military honours at his native place in Palampur on December 26.
Service: Army
Arm: Infantry
Unit: 21 Punjab
P. Number: IC-5270
Birth: 23 Nov 1926
Medals:
MVC, Operation: 1971 Cactus Lily, Date of Award: 10 Dec 1971 More Details
Educational Institutions:
Permanent Address:
Vatika House
District Palampur
Bundla Tea Estate
Himachal Pradesh
176061
India
Brig Rattan Nath Sharma was killed after being allegedly hit by a speeding vehicle while he was waiting for a bus near Kharar, near here, yesterday. He succumbed to his injuries today while being taken to the PGIMER.
On a complaint by his son-in-law, Gurpreet Singh, the Kharar police has registered a case of negligent driving against Pankaj, driver of the vehicle. A case under Sections 279 and 304-A, IPC, has been registered at the City Kharar police station.
According to information, Brigadier Sharma belonged to Palampur and had come to Kharar for some property matter. He was knocked down by the vehicle yesterday and rushed to a local hospital. It was only after the police found a diary on his person containing the telephone number of a CSD in Palampur that his identity could be ascertained.
He is survived by his wife, a son, who looks after the family estate in Palampur, and two daughters, both doctors. His daughter and son-in-law reached here at around midnight after the family was informed about the mishap.
Brigadier Sharma was commissioned into the Punjab Regiment in August 1949, and decorated with the Maha Vir Chakra for commanding a battalion of the Punjab Regiment in the Poonch Sector of Jammu and Kashmir during the 1971 Indo-Pak war. He had been tasked to capture a strong and fortified enemy post situated on a dominating feature. The then Lt-Col Sharma encouraged his men by his presence and courage to achieve the given task.
His cremation is scheduled to take place with full military honours at his native place in Palampur on December 26.
Service: Army
Arm: Infantry
Unit: 21 Punjab
P. Number: IC-5270
Birth: 23 Nov 1926
Medals:
MVC, Operation: 1971 Cactus Lily, Date of Award: 10 Dec 1971 More Details
Educational Institutions:
Permanent Address:
Vatika House
District Palampur
Bundla Tea Estate
Himachal Pradesh
176061
India
Friday, December 23, 2011
Parliament panel favours one rank-one pension
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20111223/nation.htm#7
Parliament panel favours one rank-one pension
Says financial liability of Rs 3,000 cr a year incorrect
Vijay Mohan/TNS
Chandigarh, December 22
Recommending the grant of one rank-one pension (OROP) to retired armed forces personnel, the Parliament’s Committee on Petitions has said that it is not convinced with the hurdles projected by the Ministry of Defence in implementing the proposal.
Observing that the financial liability for implementing OROP is Rs 1,300 crore for 20110-12 "which is not a very big amount for a country of our size and economy and also considering the purpose for which it would be utilised", the committee said it is not convinced with the version of the Finance Ministry that implementing OROP would generate similar requests from civilian employees because the terms and conditions of service of the two are vastly different and much harsher and difficult for the military.
The committee, in its report tabled in Rajya Sabha yesterday, also found to be incorrect, the financial liability of Rs 3,000 crore per annum put forth by the Department of Ex-servicemen Welfare (DOEW) for OROP.
Nixing financial, administrative and legal hurdles projected by the DOEW, the committee observed,” The defence services serve the nation with utmost devotion and selflessness but their demands are consistently being ignored, not by the heads of the Armed Forces, but by bureaucrats. It’s a typical example of bureaucratic apathy.” The Committee observed that the demands of veterans, including OROP, were included in the election manifestos of various parties but not given effect
“The findings of the committee were appreciable and pro-veteran,” said Maj Navdeep Singh, a High Court lawyer dealing with service matters. “Even the legal difficulties expressed by DOEW have no legs to stand upon. It claimed that the Supreme Court had upheld the implementation of cut-off dates in pensionary matters in various cases. However, what DESW did not mention is the fact that there are many more decisions, including very recent ones, where cut-off dates have been deprecated,” he added. Further, the committee did not accept DOWS’ claims on legal issues and held that on the contrary.
Parliament panel favours one rank-one pension
Says financial liability of Rs 3,000 cr a year incorrect
Vijay Mohan/TNS
Chandigarh, December 22
Recommending the grant of one rank-one pension (OROP) to retired armed forces personnel, the Parliament’s Committee on Petitions has said that it is not convinced with the hurdles projected by the Ministry of Defence in implementing the proposal.
Observing that the financial liability for implementing OROP is Rs 1,300 crore for 20110-12 "which is not a very big amount for a country of our size and economy and also considering the purpose for which it would be utilised", the committee said it is not convinced with the version of the Finance Ministry that implementing OROP would generate similar requests from civilian employees because the terms and conditions of service of the two are vastly different and much harsher and difficult for the military.
The committee, in its report tabled in Rajya Sabha yesterday, also found to be incorrect, the financial liability of Rs 3,000 crore per annum put forth by the Department of Ex-servicemen Welfare (DOEW) for OROP.
Nixing financial, administrative and legal hurdles projected by the DOEW, the committee observed,” The defence services serve the nation with utmost devotion and selflessness but their demands are consistently being ignored, not by the heads of the Armed Forces, but by bureaucrats. It’s a typical example of bureaucratic apathy.” The Committee observed that the demands of veterans, including OROP, were included in the election manifestos of various parties but not given effect
“The findings of the committee were appreciable and pro-veteran,” said Maj Navdeep Singh, a High Court lawyer dealing with service matters. “Even the legal difficulties expressed by DOEW have no legs to stand upon. It claimed that the Supreme Court had upheld the implementation of cut-off dates in pensionary matters in various cases. However, what DESW did not mention is the fact that there are many more decisions, including very recent ones, where cut-off dates have been deprecated,” he added. Further, the committee did not accept DOWS’ claims on legal issues and held that on the contrary.
Tuesday, December 20, 2011
News on OROP to Parliament...
Some good cheer for Christmas after all. Read paragraph 10.3 - it
is heartening. Let us hope the UPA govt relents.
Cheers
Carl H Gomes
====================================
forwarded message:
As you are aware the Rajya Sabha Committee on Petitions accepted a Petition presented by Mr. Rajeev Chandrasekhar, Member of Parliament, on Grant of One Rank, One Pension to ex-servicemen and retired defence personnel.
The Petition Committee which held its hearings in May, 2011 has submitted its Report to Rajya Sabha today.
Please click here to read the copy of the Committee On Petitions Report on OROP.
Among others, the Petitions Committee has strongly recommended the Government should implement OROP at the earliest.
You are welcome to share your comments or feedback.
Sincerely
V.Anand
Principal - Public Affairs,
Office of Rajeev Chandrasekhar,
Member of Parliament
is heartening. Let us hope the UPA govt relents.
Cheers
Carl H Gomes
====================================
forwarded message:
As you are aware the Rajya Sabha Committee on Petitions accepted a Petition presented by Mr. Rajeev Chandrasekhar, Member of Parliament, on Grant of One Rank, One Pension to ex-servicemen and retired defence personnel.
The Petition Committee which held its hearings in May, 2011 has submitted its Report to Rajya Sabha today.
Please click here to read the copy of the Committee On Petitions Report on OROP.
Among others, the Petitions Committee has strongly recommended the Government should implement OROP at the earliest.
You are welcome to share your comments or feedback.
Sincerely
V.Anand
Principal - Public Affairs,
Office of Rajeev Chandrasekhar,
Member of Parliament
Friday, December 16, 2011
Remembering the heroes of 1971 War
Remembering the heroes of 1971 War
NDTV Correspondent, Updated: December 16, 2011 01:06 IST
New Delhi: Forty years ago, when Lieutenant General AAK Niazi, commander of the Pakistani forces in East Pakistan, signed surrender before Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora, India's Eastern Army Commander, it marked the end of our subcontinent's most decisive war. In fact, the definitive liberation war in modern world's military history.
Bangladesh was born but about 3,900 Indian soldiers died, 9,851 wounded and 93,000 Pakistani soldiers were taken Prisoners of War.
"Only two such surrenders have happened in the world, one in Leningrad and another one in Bangladesh. We saw token a surrender of arms by the Pakistani troops, laying down their arms and the Indian people picking them up as mark of surrender," said Air Commodore Mirza Ali.
As the new nation asserted its identity before the world, 1971 emerged as India's finest hour, sweeping away as it did with a master stroke the ravaging blunders of the 1962 India-China conflict.
Awami League's Mujibur Rahman, an India loyalist, became the new Prime Minister of Bangladesh. And pushed to the corner, Pakistan had to sign the dotted line of the Shimla Pact that laid down the peace principles that should govern Indo-Pak relations. The accord also converted the 1949 UN Ceasefire Line into the Line of Control (LoC) between India and Pakistan.
Last, but not the least, was the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi who emerged an icon for leading the war as she did against world opinion, to prove a point in a way India militarily and diplomatically has never been able to recreate.
Going against the Nixon-Kissinger snubs from the White House, she was able to position the 1971 War as a war for justice, ultimately turning global opinion in her favour.
Aiding her was another stellar personality - Army Chief Sam Maneckshaw - holding his own and refusing Indira as he did to start the war in March 1971. He went forward in December only after ensuring our military had readied itself and the nationalist freedom fighters Mukti Bahini within Bangladesh.
Our current Army Chief General VK Singh fought that war as a Second Lieutenant.
"It was a perfect synergy that was obtained between the political leadership and the military as well the nation. We should not forget all this. I would give great amount of credit to our then Prime Minister. I don't think people have appreciated what she achieved. She was able to get a consensus, she was able to build a world opinion, she was able to ensure that despite our own economic hardships we were able to look after thousands and thousands refugees who had come, and she allowed the military a certain amount of freedom to plan their operations in the best possible manner. It was unmatched leadership. When we look at the military, we were able to work out in great detail what is to be done and I have great pride in saying that it was the best manoeuvre war in the military history of the world. Nowhere in the world have they ever executed a manoeuver war like this. In a short time, we were able to achieve tremendous amount. You don't have wars where you get 93,000 prisoners. You don't have wars where surrenders take place like this," said General Singh.
Exactly four decades later, in a reappraisal of that military campaign in New Delhi this week, the Indian Army funded think-tank Centre for Land Warfare Studies or CLAWS, acknowledged the decisive role Mukti Bahini played in that war.
Mukti Bahini was a hastily assembled force of Bangladeshi students, lawyers and ordinary nationalist citizens - both Muslims and Hindu - who fought alongside Indian military to create Bangladesh.
Is such a war possible in this day and time? Theoretically, yes, in conflict areas where there is large-scale discontent among local people.
"If you have genuine grievances, like Kurds of Baloch, you have areas where the population has reached a stage where they have totally delinked themselves from the state they are part of. If that sort of grievances exist, an external intervention can create, and would create a state," said Alok Bansal, a military scholar.
But people who fought the 1971 War, like Air Marshall Inamdar and General VK Singh, remain sceptical.
"Look at the kind of surveillance capabilities everyone have now. Given that, something like this happening again, I think it's very difficult," said Air Marshal S G Inamdar.
"It depends on circumstances. It depends on how thing would come up. It depends on what are the factors which would guide such kind of a movement coupled with the type of resistance. This is not just a victory which was stand alone. This was a victory along with our brothers in arms from Bangladesh. It was a combined effort and if all these factors were to combine then may be, yes," Indian Army Chief, General VK Singh said.
Those factors may never come together as decisively as in 1971, making a repeat of the spectacular victory almost impossible.
Forty years after their finest military victory, the Indian armed forces are in the midst of another phase of rapid modernisation to meet new-age challenges. And while the challenges still remain about the process of modernisation and its speed, the key question that perhaps confronts India is: Do we have a political leadership as strong as we had in 1971? And is the current political leadership capable of taking bold decision?
Remembering the heroes of 1971 War
Capt Vikram Batra
In a time of war, he became the face of the young Indian soldier who fought ferociously and died fearlessly.
click here for the Video clip of 1999 Kargil war
NDTV Correspondent, Updated: December 16, 2011 01:06 IST
New Delhi: Forty years ago, when Lieutenant General AAK Niazi, commander of the Pakistani forces in East Pakistan, signed surrender before Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Aurora, India's Eastern Army Commander, it marked the end of our subcontinent's most decisive war. In fact, the definitive liberation war in modern world's military history.
Bangladesh was born but about 3,900 Indian soldiers died, 9,851 wounded and 93,000 Pakistani soldiers were taken Prisoners of War.
"Only two such surrenders have happened in the world, one in Leningrad and another one in Bangladesh. We saw token a surrender of arms by the Pakistani troops, laying down their arms and the Indian people picking them up as mark of surrender," said Air Commodore Mirza Ali.
As the new nation asserted its identity before the world, 1971 emerged as India's finest hour, sweeping away as it did with a master stroke the ravaging blunders of the 1962 India-China conflict.
Awami League's Mujibur Rahman, an India loyalist, became the new Prime Minister of Bangladesh. And pushed to the corner, Pakistan had to sign the dotted line of the Shimla Pact that laid down the peace principles that should govern Indo-Pak relations. The accord also converted the 1949 UN Ceasefire Line into the Line of Control (LoC) between India and Pakistan.
Last, but not the least, was the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi who emerged an icon for leading the war as she did against world opinion, to prove a point in a way India militarily and diplomatically has never been able to recreate.
Going against the Nixon-Kissinger snubs from the White House, she was able to position the 1971 War as a war for justice, ultimately turning global opinion in her favour.
Aiding her was another stellar personality - Army Chief Sam Maneckshaw - holding his own and refusing Indira as he did to start the war in March 1971. He went forward in December only after ensuring our military had readied itself and the nationalist freedom fighters Mukti Bahini within Bangladesh.
Our current Army Chief General VK Singh fought that war as a Second Lieutenant.
"It was a perfect synergy that was obtained between the political leadership and the military as well the nation. We should not forget all this. I would give great amount of credit to our then Prime Minister. I don't think people have appreciated what she achieved. She was able to get a consensus, she was able to build a world opinion, she was able to ensure that despite our own economic hardships we were able to look after thousands and thousands refugees who had come, and she allowed the military a certain amount of freedom to plan their operations in the best possible manner. It was unmatched leadership. When we look at the military, we were able to work out in great detail what is to be done and I have great pride in saying that it was the best manoeuvre war in the military history of the world. Nowhere in the world have they ever executed a manoeuver war like this. In a short time, we were able to achieve tremendous amount. You don't have wars where you get 93,000 prisoners. You don't have wars where surrenders take place like this," said General Singh.
Exactly four decades later, in a reappraisal of that military campaign in New Delhi this week, the Indian Army funded think-tank Centre for Land Warfare Studies or CLAWS, acknowledged the decisive role Mukti Bahini played in that war.
Mukti Bahini was a hastily assembled force of Bangladeshi students, lawyers and ordinary nationalist citizens - both Muslims and Hindu - who fought alongside Indian military to create Bangladesh.
Is such a war possible in this day and time? Theoretically, yes, in conflict areas where there is large-scale discontent among local people.
"If you have genuine grievances, like Kurds of Baloch, you have areas where the population has reached a stage where they have totally delinked themselves from the state they are part of. If that sort of grievances exist, an external intervention can create, and would create a state," said Alok Bansal, a military scholar.
But people who fought the 1971 War, like Air Marshall Inamdar and General VK Singh, remain sceptical.
"Look at the kind of surveillance capabilities everyone have now. Given that, something like this happening again, I think it's very difficult," said Air Marshal S G Inamdar.
"It depends on circumstances. It depends on how thing would come up. It depends on what are the factors which would guide such kind of a movement coupled with the type of resistance. This is not just a victory which was stand alone. This was a victory along with our brothers in arms from Bangladesh. It was a combined effort and if all these factors were to combine then may be, yes," Indian Army Chief, General VK Singh said.
Those factors may never come together as decisively as in 1971, making a repeat of the spectacular victory almost impossible.
Forty years after their finest military victory, the Indian armed forces are in the midst of another phase of rapid modernisation to meet new-age challenges. And while the challenges still remain about the process of modernisation and its speed, the key question that perhaps confronts India is: Do we have a political leadership as strong as we had in 1971? And is the current political leadership capable of taking bold decision?
Remembering the heroes of 1971 War
Capt Vikram Batra
In a time of war, he became the face of the young Indian soldier who fought ferociously and died fearlessly.
click here for the Video clip of 1999 Kargil war
Forces Law Gazette
Maj Navdeep SinghThis day, 16th December, is militarily a significant date for the region.
To fill up the vacuum in a very apposite space, I feel pleased today in announcing the release of the first issue of the ‘FORCES LAW GAZETTE’ – a free, non-commercial quarterly newsletter dealing with law & allied issues related to uniformed services of not just India but other democracies as well. Meant more for general reading than use in Courts, the Gazette would consist of three broad categories:
(1) Law Related to Uniformed Services,
(2) Developments & Miscellaneous, and
(3) Contributions & Articles.
The Gazette would remain available through www.lawgazette.net for free download and distribution in pdf format. Of course, the link is also available on my blog Indian Military Info
Bouquets and brickbats are welcome on the comments section on the FLG webpage.
Readers are welcome to distribute and forward this email, and also the Gazette, freely and non-commercially without any inhibition or copyright concerns.
I, the Editorial team and the contributors hope to effectively sustain the concept with the next issue due in March 2012. Contributions in the form of articles are welcome and may be sent to me by email for publication in future volumes.
Thank You,
Major Navdeep Singh
Advocate, High Court
Wednesday, December 14, 2011
: "SHOT IN THE ARM LIKELY FOR EX-SOLDIERS" - EXPRESS BUZZ (CHENNAI)
Dear Members,
A news report from Indian Express is reproduced below.
There was never any doubt that the Committee will give a favorable verdict, it is rather unlikely that the GOI will even consider it at this juncture.
You will also recall that the President NFDC had made a presentation before this committee.
warm regards
Navy Foundation Delhi Charter
One Rank, One Pension
"SHOT IN THE ARM LIKELY FOR EX-SOLDIERS"
Ritu Sharma
Dec 15, 2011Express Buzz (Chennai) - [ Front Page ]
NEW DELHI : In a move that can bring joy to nearly 2.5 million retied soldiers, the Parliament Committee on Petitions is likely to favour their demand for 'One Rank, One Pension'.
The report, likely to be tabled in the Parliament next week, will be a vindication of the stand taken by the soldiers who have been running from pillar to post fighting for their rights.
Thousands of ex-servicemen and war veterans returned their gallantry medals protesting the decision of the Ministry of Defence not to grant 'One Rank, One Pension'. Soldiers have been demanding equal pension for personnel retiring from the same rank irrespective of their date of retirement. Persons reitiring before the pay commission cut-off date get less pension than those retiring after the date.
According to sources, the long pending demand has found support as the Committee on Petitions has been considering the petition submitted by Rajya Sabha M.P., Mr. Rajeev Chandrasekhar and 24 others in October 2010.
" The committee conducted a detailed hearing on the matter by inviting citizen groups, ex-servicemen and government representatives to depose and express their views on the issue. The committee completeed their hearing and the report will be presented during the winter session of Parliament ", sources added.
The petitioners in their argument had said that the demand of ex-servicemen may be considered on the lines of the pension for MPs, which is Rs. 20,000 for all first time members.
A news report from Indian Express is reproduced below.
There was never any doubt that the Committee will give a favorable verdict, it is rather unlikely that the GOI will even consider it at this juncture.
You will also recall that the President NFDC had made a presentation before this committee.
warm regards
Navy Foundation Delhi Charter
One Rank, One Pension
"SHOT IN THE ARM LIKELY FOR EX-SOLDIERS"
Ritu Sharma
Dec 15, 2011Express Buzz (Chennai) - [ Front Page ]
NEW DELHI : In a move that can bring joy to nearly 2.5 million retied soldiers, the Parliament Committee on Petitions is likely to favour their demand for 'One Rank, One Pension'.
The report, likely to be tabled in the Parliament next week, will be a vindication of the stand taken by the soldiers who have been running from pillar to post fighting for their rights.
Thousands of ex-servicemen and war veterans returned their gallantry medals protesting the decision of the Ministry of Defence not to grant 'One Rank, One Pension'. Soldiers have been demanding equal pension for personnel retiring from the same rank irrespective of their date of retirement. Persons reitiring before the pay commission cut-off date get less pension than those retiring after the date.
According to sources, the long pending demand has found support as the Committee on Petitions has been considering the petition submitted by Rajya Sabha M.P., Mr. Rajeev Chandrasekhar and 24 others in October 2010.
" The committee conducted a detailed hearing on the matter by inviting citizen groups, ex-servicemen and government representatives to depose and express their views on the issue. The committee completeed their hearing and the report will be presented during the winter session of Parliament ", sources added.
The petitioners in their argument had said that the demand of ex-servicemen may be considered on the lines of the pension for MPs, which is Rs. 20,000 for all first time members.
OROP- Pension improvement an ongoing process
PIB Releases Ministry of Defence 12-December, 2011 14:34 IST
One Rank-One Pension
The gap between past pensioners and their youger equivalents retiring from the armed forces does not necessarily keeps widening with every successive pay commission. Over the years several improvements have been made in pension of past pensioners. The pension of past pensioners have revised in accordance with recommendation of each successive Pay Commission, as accepted by the Government. The Sixth Pay Commission had recommended fitment formula and modified parity for past pensioners, in order to reduce the gaps, which were accepted by the Government.
Pension Improvement is an ongoing process and considerable improvements have been made in the pensions of armed forces personnel. The Group of Ministers (GoM) had in 2005 improved the pensionary benefits of PBORs. On the recommendations of PMO, a Committee was set up under the Chairmanship of Cabinet Secretary in June, 2009 to look into the issue of `One Rank One Pension and other related matters. After considering all aspects of the matter, the Committee keeping in mind the spirit of the demand, suggested several measures to substantially improve pensionary benefits of Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBOR) and Commissioned Officers, which have been accepted by the Government and orders for implementation of all the recommendations have been issued. These are available at www.pcdapension.nic.in.
This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Shri MM PallamRaju in a written reply to Dr.RajanSushantand others in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78436)
One Rank One Pension
CSD Depots in Himachal Pradesh
Government of Himachal Pradesh has requested this Ministry for setting up of a CSD Depot in the State in view of the number of Servicemen, Ex-servicemen and their families residing there.
Land measuring approximately 188kanals had been offered by Himachal Pradesh Government in this regard. However, the same was not found to be suitable, since some of it Included khud/nallah which is prone to flooding during rainy season.
It is not possible at this stage to anticipate the time likely to be taken for setting up the Depot at Una in view of the fact that the Government of Himachal Pradesh is yet to identify another piece of suitable land. Once a suitable alternate land is offered by the State Government the proposal will be considered depending upon availability of budget and manpower.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to ShriVirenderKashyap in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78428)
Sadbhavana Schemes of Army
Projects under Sadbhavana scheme executed by the Army in Ladakh relate to infrastructure, community development, Health care, Human Resources Development, Education, Information Technology and National Integration Tour etc. Since 2009-10, the expenditure incurred is as under:-
(Rupees In Crores)/ Year/ Amount Allotted/ Expenditure Incurred
2009-10/ 6.85/ 6.85
2010-11/ 7.00/ 7.00
2011-12/ 7.00/ 3.34 (till date)
These projects are undertaken in consultation / recommendations of village Sarpanches and district administration and are focused to supplement the requirements of the people in remote and inaccessible areas.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to ShriHassan Khan in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78425)
Placement of IAF Personnel
A Placement Fair was conducted at Air Force Auditorium, Subroto Park, New Delhi on 15th & 16th October, 2011 by the Indian Air Force Placement Cell. A total of 2788 air warriors including 2671 airmen (2035 retired and 636 serving) and 117 officers (87 retired and 30 serving) participated in the event. A total of 38 companies participated in the fair.
666 air warriors were shortlisted for placement during the fair. So far 93 confirmed placements have been reported to Indian Air Force Placement Cell.
Such fairs are conducted as per the requirements of the Indian Air Force from time to time.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to Shri A. Ganeshamurthi in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78427)
One Rank-One Pension
The gap between past pensioners and their youger equivalents retiring from the armed forces does not necessarily keeps widening with every successive pay commission. Over the years several improvements have been made in pension of past pensioners. The pension of past pensioners have revised in accordance with recommendation of each successive Pay Commission, as accepted by the Government. The Sixth Pay Commission had recommended fitment formula and modified parity for past pensioners, in order to reduce the gaps, which were accepted by the Government.
Pension Improvement is an ongoing process and considerable improvements have been made in the pensions of armed forces personnel. The Group of Ministers (GoM) had in 2005 improved the pensionary benefits of PBORs. On the recommendations of PMO, a Committee was set up under the Chairmanship of Cabinet Secretary in June, 2009 to look into the issue of `One Rank One Pension and other related matters. After considering all aspects of the matter, the Committee keeping in mind the spirit of the demand, suggested several measures to substantially improve pensionary benefits of Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBOR) and Commissioned Officers, which have been accepted by the Government and orders for implementation of all the recommendations have been issued. These are available at www.pcdapension.nic.in.
This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Shri MM PallamRaju in a written reply to Dr.RajanSushantand others in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78436)
One Rank One Pension
CSD Depots in Himachal Pradesh
Government of Himachal Pradesh has requested this Ministry for setting up of a CSD Depot in the State in view of the number of Servicemen, Ex-servicemen and their families residing there.
Land measuring approximately 188kanals had been offered by Himachal Pradesh Government in this regard. However, the same was not found to be suitable, since some of it Included khud/nallah which is prone to flooding during rainy season.
It is not possible at this stage to anticipate the time likely to be taken for setting up the Depot at Una in view of the fact that the Government of Himachal Pradesh is yet to identify another piece of suitable land. Once a suitable alternate land is offered by the State Government the proposal will be considered depending upon availability of budget and manpower.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to ShriVirenderKashyap in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78428)
Sadbhavana Schemes of Army
Projects under Sadbhavana scheme executed by the Army in Ladakh relate to infrastructure, community development, Health care, Human Resources Development, Education, Information Technology and National Integration Tour etc. Since 2009-10, the expenditure incurred is as under:-
(Rupees In Crores)/ Year/ Amount Allotted/ Expenditure Incurred
2009-10/ 6.85/ 6.85
2010-11/ 7.00/ 7.00
2011-12/ 7.00/ 3.34 (till date)
These projects are undertaken in consultation / recommendations of village Sarpanches and district administration and are focused to supplement the requirements of the people in remote and inaccessible areas.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to ShriHassan Khan in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78425)
Placement of IAF Personnel
A Placement Fair was conducted at Air Force Auditorium, Subroto Park, New Delhi on 15th & 16th October, 2011 by the Indian Air Force Placement Cell. A total of 2788 air warriors including 2671 airmen (2035 retired and 636 serving) and 117 officers (87 retired and 30 serving) participated in the event. A total of 38 companies participated in the fair.
666 air warriors were shortlisted for placement during the fair. So far 93 confirmed placements have been reported to Indian Air Force Placement Cell.
Such fairs are conducted as per the requirements of the Indian Air Force from time to time.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in a written reply to Shri A. Ganeshamurthi in LokSabha today. PK/NN (Release ID :78427)
Tuesday, December 13, 2011
Pre 2006 Wg cdr's pension
From: ambreesh aggarwal
Date: 13 December 2011 00:51
Subject: Good News for pre 2006 retiree Wg Cdrs
To: ambreesh aggarwal
a news to rejoice.....
The Armed Forces Tribunal, Principal Bench, New Delhi, has accepted that a pre - 2006 retiree Wg Cdr must get a minimum pension of Rs 25,700/- p.m. IRRESPECTIVE OF THE SERVICE PUT IN BY HIM.
Formal orders / judgment will come in due course.
I, on behalf of my clients as well as on my own behalf, am further taking up for the figure of Rs 26,265/- p.m.
In any case, one round of the battle has been won with 90% success.
The flip side, however, is that the government is already up in arms and would appeal against the order when it formally comes.
regards
Wg Cdr (Retd.) A. K. Aggarwal
Advocate on Record
Supreme Court of India
+919871102287
Date: 13 December 2011 00:51
Subject: Good News for pre 2006 retiree Wg Cdrs
To: ambreesh aggarwal
a news to rejoice.....
The Armed Forces Tribunal, Principal Bench, New Delhi, has accepted that a pre - 2006 retiree Wg Cdr must get a minimum pension of Rs 25,700/- p.m. IRRESPECTIVE OF THE SERVICE PUT IN BY HIM.
Formal orders / judgment will come in due course.
I, on behalf of my clients as well as on my own behalf, am further taking up for the figure of Rs 26,265/- p.m.
In any case, one round of the battle has been won with 90% success.
The flip side, however, is that the government is already up in arms and would appeal against the order when it formally comes.
regards
Wg Cdr (Retd.) A. K. Aggarwal
Advocate on Record
Supreme Court of India
+919871102287
Monday, December 5, 2011
Reply by Col Lamba..Demand for seventh Pay Commission to beat runaway Inflation
A CRUEL JOKE WITH COL & BRIG 6th PAY COMMISION
AND ONE RANK ONE PENSION SANCTION
IN INITIAL STAGES OF 6th PAY COMMISSION FORMULATION
GOVERNMENT & SERVICES CHIEF WERE BENT UPON TO GIVE
BETTER BENEFITS TO COL & BRIG. IT WAS THEIR SINCERE EFFORT TO RESTORE IMAGE & BENEFITS TO COL & BRIG.
THE 6th PAY COMMISSION [ BY MISTAKE /OR OTHERWISE] GAVE
BENEFITS TO Lt COL & THEIR EQUALS [PAY BAND-3]. HENCE COL/BRIG WAS PUT ON BACK FOOT AGAIN.
LATER ON MAJ GEN/LT GEN PAY/PENSION WAS ENHANCED,
BUT COL/BRIG AGAIN FORGOTTEN
AFTER SOME TIME LT COL WERE PUT ON PAY BAND-4.
AT THIS STAGE AGAIN COL/BRIG FORGOTTEN
TO ADD FURTHER A DIG WAS ONE TIME JUNIOR TO COL HAS
BEEN PUT AT PAR WITH BRIG. [IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT POLICE HAS GONE ONE RANK UP ALREADY DURING COAS MALHOTRA TIME.HE DID HIS BEST TO REVERSE POLICE ACTION, BUT COULD NOT DO SO & DID NOT UPGRADE RANK OF HIS FORCES.
TO-DAY BRIG EQUAL IS ONLY DIG IN INTER-SE SENIORITY THUS THE BRIG RANK HAS BECOME DEFUNCT FOR GOVT AND COL HAS BECOME JUNIOR TO DIG.
7. IN ONE RANK ONE PENSION CASE
Majors and Maj Gen will be the ones who will get the max benefit, being at
The top of PB3 and PB4 respectively (just like S-28/29 Scale Officers are at
The top of PB4).
LT COL [TS]/SELECTION] HAVE GOT TREMENDOUS JUMP IN
6th PAY COMMISSION & FURTHER UP NOW MOVED TO BAND-4
[BALLE BALLE HO GAI]
8. COL/BRIG CASE FUERTHER WENT DOWN.ALL
THE EFFORT OF GOVT/SERVICES CHIEF TO GIVE BENEFIT
TO COL/BRIG HAS GONE IN REVERSE GEAR.
9. SUPREME COURT HAS ORDERED AFTER 6th PAY COMMISSION
TO HAVE SEPRATE PAY COMMISSION FOR COL/BRIG,
BUT THEIR SEEMS TO BE NO HEAD WAY.
10, COL/BRIG ARE IN FORE FRONT DURING PEACE/WAR AND
WITH DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH MEN.COL/BRIG IS
A KING PIN BETWEEN TROOPS & HIGHER UPS.
KINDLY DONOT LOWER MORALE OF LEADER IN ACTUALFRONT.
--
COL LAMBA
AND ONE RANK ONE PENSION SANCTION
IN INITIAL STAGES OF 6th PAY COMMISSION FORMULATION
GOVERNMENT & SERVICES CHIEF WERE BENT UPON TO GIVE
BETTER BENEFITS TO COL & BRIG. IT WAS THEIR SINCERE EFFORT TO RESTORE IMAGE & BENEFITS TO COL & BRIG.
THE 6th PAY COMMISSION [ BY MISTAKE /OR OTHERWISE] GAVE
BENEFITS TO Lt COL & THEIR EQUALS [PAY BAND-3]. HENCE COL/BRIG WAS PUT ON BACK FOOT AGAIN.
LATER ON MAJ GEN/LT GEN PAY/PENSION WAS ENHANCED,
BUT COL/BRIG AGAIN FORGOTTEN
AFTER SOME TIME LT COL WERE PUT ON PAY BAND-4.
AT THIS STAGE AGAIN COL/BRIG FORGOTTEN
TO ADD FURTHER A DIG WAS ONE TIME JUNIOR TO COL HAS
BEEN PUT AT PAR WITH BRIG. [IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT POLICE HAS GONE ONE RANK UP ALREADY DURING COAS MALHOTRA TIME.HE DID HIS BEST TO REVERSE POLICE ACTION, BUT COULD NOT DO SO & DID NOT UPGRADE RANK OF HIS FORCES.
TO-DAY BRIG EQUAL IS ONLY DIG IN INTER-SE SENIORITY THUS THE BRIG RANK HAS BECOME DEFUNCT FOR GOVT AND COL HAS BECOME JUNIOR TO DIG.
7. IN ONE RANK ONE PENSION CASE
Majors and Maj Gen will be the ones who will get the max benefit, being at
The top of PB3 and PB4 respectively (just like S-28/29 Scale Officers are at
The top of PB4).
LT COL [TS]/SELECTION] HAVE GOT TREMENDOUS JUMP IN
6th PAY COMMISSION & FURTHER UP NOW MOVED TO BAND-4
[BALLE BALLE HO GAI]
8. COL/BRIG CASE FUERTHER WENT DOWN.ALL
THE EFFORT OF GOVT/SERVICES CHIEF TO GIVE BENEFIT
TO COL/BRIG HAS GONE IN REVERSE GEAR.
9. SUPREME COURT HAS ORDERED AFTER 6th PAY COMMISSION
TO HAVE SEPRATE PAY COMMISSION FOR COL/BRIG,
BUT THEIR SEEMS TO BE NO HEAD WAY.
10, COL/BRIG ARE IN FORE FRONT DURING PEACE/WAR AND
WITH DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH MEN.COL/BRIG IS
A KING PIN BETWEEN TROOPS & HIGHER UPS.
KINDLY DONOT LOWER MORALE OF LEADER IN ACTUALFRONT.
--
COL LAMBA
Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Pension after age 80 yrs etc Wg.Cdr. K.V.Lakshminarayanan
lakshmi narayanan wrote
Dear Vidyadhar,
This is for the info. of our pensioners, particularly octogenarians amongst us. It also shows how indifferent the babudom is, in matters relating to pensioners.
My pension, until recently, was as per PPO issued by PCDA, Allahabad in 2009. This, PPO was based on MOD letter dated 21 Aug. 2009, which in turn was based on GOI, Ministry of Personnel, Public grievances & pensions ((Dept. of.pensions and pensioners welfare) OM dated 15 Sep. 2008. This communication provided for additional pension for pensioners of age 80 years and more, as percentages of RESTORED PENSION. I was getting this additional old age pension on this basis.
Subsequently, thanks to this medium of communication, I came to know that the Ministry of Personnel Public grievances &pensions had issued another OM on 19th Jan.2010, which amended the additional pension for octogenarians to percentages of FULL PENSION and not RESTORED PENSION.
Somewhat optimistically, I contacted PCDA office, Allahabad to take note of this change and as I am an affected pensioner, requested that my PPO should be accordingly amended.
Not unexpectedly, I got a reply that they will take action only after they get a communication from MOD.
Now I started to wake up the sleeping Ministry. After some informal efforts, I wrote a formal letter. with no results. I contacted my active friend L G Subramanian and also ex-colleague Col.Malhotra. Eventually Malhotra who contacted MOD babus, who were, I guess, beginning to feel the heat of impending tribunal proceedings, promised to take action thereon.
On 11th May, this year, I left for US to be with my children. Till then, I had not received any communication on this matter.
When I returned from the US by end August and looked at my accumulated mail, I was pleasantly surprised to see a communication from PCDA office containing a new PPO dated 21 April 2011 incorporating the amendment to old age pension. The PPO dated 21 April, did'nt reach me till 10th May!! I was not in the country to act thereupon!!
The matter does not end there. Immediately after my return, I contacted my bank, IOB, which is generally friendly, and enquired about the additional pension as per the latest PPO. They were totally innocent about the PPO!. I raised my decibel level. I showed my latest PPO dated 21 April and they took a copy and started working feverishly on the additional dues to me . I do not know whether the bank or Postal dept. or Allahabad is responsible for the hip-up on the last lap!!
Alls well that ends well !! There is a saying which can be translated as "even if God grants a boon, it is the Poojari who delivers it "
My prayers for col. Malhotra's fast recovery.
Wg.Cdr. K.V.Lakshminarayanan
Dear Vidyadhar,
This is for the info. of our pensioners, particularly octogenarians amongst us. It also shows how indifferent the babudom is, in matters relating to pensioners.
My pension, until recently, was as per PPO issued by PCDA, Allahabad in 2009. This, PPO was based on MOD letter dated 21 Aug. 2009, which in turn was based on GOI, Ministry of Personnel, Public grievances & pensions ((Dept. of.pensions and pensioners welfare) OM dated 15 Sep. 2008. This communication provided for additional pension for pensioners of age 80 years and more, as percentages of RESTORED PENSION. I was getting this additional old age pension on this basis.
Subsequently, thanks to this medium of communication, I came to know that the Ministry of Personnel Public grievances &pensions had issued another OM on 19th Jan.2010, which amended the additional pension for octogenarians to percentages of FULL PENSION and not RESTORED PENSION.
Somewhat optimistically, I contacted PCDA office, Allahabad to take note of this change and as I am an affected pensioner, requested that my PPO should be accordingly amended.
Not unexpectedly, I got a reply that they will take action only after they get a communication from MOD.
Now I started to wake up the sleeping Ministry. After some informal efforts, I wrote a formal letter. with no results. I contacted my active friend L G Subramanian and also ex-colleague Col.Malhotra. Eventually Malhotra who contacted MOD babus, who were, I guess, beginning to feel the heat of impending tribunal proceedings, promised to take action thereon.
On 11th May, this year, I left for US to be with my children. Till then, I had not received any communication on this matter.
When I returned from the US by end August and looked at my accumulated mail, I was pleasantly surprised to see a communication from PCDA office containing a new PPO dated 21 April 2011 incorporating the amendment to old age pension. The PPO dated 21 April, did'nt reach me till 10th May!! I was not in the country to act thereupon!!
The matter does not end there. Immediately after my return, I contacted my bank, IOB, which is generally friendly, and enquired about the additional pension as per the latest PPO. They were totally innocent about the PPO!. I raised my decibel level. I showed my latest PPO dated 21 April and they took a copy and started working feverishly on the additional dues to me . I do not know whether the bank or Postal dept. or Allahabad is responsible for the hip-up on the last lap!!
Alls well that ends well !! There is a saying which can be translated as "even if God grants a boon, it is the Poojari who delivers it "
My prayers for col. Malhotra's fast recovery.
Wg.Cdr. K.V.Lakshminarayanan
Wednesday, November 23, 2011
JAGO FAUJI JAGO...23rd Nov 2011
JAGO FAUJI JAGO
23rd Nov 2011
Dear Veterans
1. The present Government at the centre has not yet accepted our most important demand of OROP. Despite of our protest movement conducted peacefully within the norms of discipline for the past over forty months, the Government has shown no positive consideration to our demands. In a Vishal Rally held at Jantar Mantar organized under the aegis of IESM where ESM and Defense Widows from across the country (18 states) took part, the following resolution was unanimously passed by raising of hands by all present without exception and renting the air with their approval:-
(a) Since the present Government at the Centre has not granted OROP, it has no right to ask for votes from Defense Personnel and their family members.
(b) Accordingly the Defense veterans resolved unanimously that they will not vote for the UPA in any future election either at the State or Centre.
(c) However, if OROP is granted by the Government, this resolution will be null and void or withdrawn.
2. It was also decided to hold rallies in States to Garner support from the Defense fraternity and also other segments of society and organizations. It was decided to initially hold these rallies where elections are taking place in the near future. Accordingly all ESM organizations and ESM in the States and UTs are requested to “Unite” for the cause of OROP which is applicable to all present and future ESM forgetting differences if any, and give wide publicity to the contents of the above resolution across the length, breadth and depth of the country to exert the right pressure on the Government to accept our demand. The states which are going in for election are Punjab, UP, Utrakahand and Himachal, and later Rajasthan, MP and Haryana.
3. One Rally each at the State Capital and other cities where Defense personnel stay in large numbers are being planned. We would require logistic support in kind or in funds to conduct these rallies. All ESM are requested to contribute generously in kind (Transport, Rally Site arrangements, meals, refreshments, tea, water etc) or in funds to enable us to make these rallies a grand success. The cheques may please be made in the name of Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (HDFC A/C No 06162000001330) and either deposit in any branch of the HDFC or send at IESM HQ address “543 Sector 23 Gurgaon (Haryana) 122017.
4. The first of the rallies is being planned at TRICITY (Chandigarh- Mohali - Panchkula) in Dec 2011. The exact date is being finalized in consultation with convener IESM Punjab. The rally in UP at Lucknow has also been planned on 09 Jan 2012.
5. Another aspect which I wish to bring to the notice of all veteran officers for their consideration is about the negligible presence of officers at the rallies. Like in service, the dictum of leading from the front is equally applicable in the lives of Defense Veterans. The veteran JCOs and men still look up to the officers as their leaders to assist them. I am reminded of a fine act of duty which we learnt and executed with scrupulous honesty 45 years back which I am sure was continuing from the past traditions ie as Gunner GPO at the Gun position, I did not take my evening meal till such time all the gun pits had been dug, the guns had been put in the gun pits and all men had had their meals. It had a very strong effect on our men. I implore upon all officers to let us be part of this protest movement to get OROP which has been denied to us for the past over 30 years. Please attend all rallies being held in your city/ district. This is a humble request to my brother officers. All those who cannot attend due to any pressing reasons, please contribute generously to make the protest Movement achieve its goals. History reveals that Movements succeeded when all affected with the cause joined in unison with “Passion in the Heart” and “Fire in the Belly”. “JAGO FAUJI JAGO Join the Protest Movement to Get Justice for Defense Forces”.
6. This letter may please be circulated to the maximum ESM organizations and ESM.
“ZINDGI MILTI RAHE MAR MAR KE MUJH KO BAR BAR,
AUR HOTA RAHOON HAR BAR KURBANE WATTAN”
With Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email: satbirsm@yahoo.com
Demand for seventh Pay Commission to beat runaway Inflation
Main Requirements Demanded from Seventh Pay Commission Report. Living in India surviving the high prices is getting impossible. So the Central government Unions and Associations will be soon coming out with requests for pay scale revisions in 2011.
Usually the Central Pay Commisssion is formed only in every 10 years. But , with the coming of the year 2011, India is in a situation where prices of most of the products needed in day to day life is increasing. Petrol, Gas, Grocery, Provisions, Food prices have gone up sky high. For instance in Chennai the Bus fares are up 100%, milk is up by Rs7 per litre and Electricity which cost Rs1030 for 600 Units will cost a whopping Rs 2350 (billed bi monthly)- just forget using AC otherwise the cost will shoot up by another Rs 5000/.
Government employees under the Central Government has started protests demanding hike in salary. Even though the time for the next Pay Revision Commission has not reached, the Central government employees have decided to ask for a 7th Central pay Commission to be formed. The main requirements that will be requested by the Indian Employee Unions from the 7th Central Pay Commission Report will be as follows,
Salary scales of employees in same posts in all departments should be fixed equally.
Current systems for Job Promotions and Salary increments should be changed to a better one.
Employees who work harder and has great performance track records in service should be paid better salary scales and given promotions , without leaving all promotions based on seniority only.
Appropriate changes should be made to allowances like HRA, TA, CCA .etc.
Transport and Traveling allowances should be renewed based on the current prices of petrol and diesel.
Demand for Seventh Pay Commission
Usually the Central Pay Commisssion is formed only in every 10 years. But , with the coming of the year 2011, India is in a situation where prices of most of the products needed in day to day life is increasing. Petrol, Gas, Grocery, Provisions, Food prices have gone up sky high. For instance in Chennai the Bus fares are up 100%, milk is up by Rs7 per litre and Electricity which cost Rs1030 for 600 Units will cost a whopping Rs 2350 (billed bi monthly)- just forget using AC otherwise the cost will shoot up by another Rs 5000/.
Government employees under the Central Government has started protests demanding hike in salary. Even though the time for the next Pay Revision Commission has not reached, the Central government employees have decided to ask for a 7th Central pay Commission to be formed. The main requirements that will be requested by the Indian Employee Unions from the 7th Central Pay Commission Report will be as follows,
Salary scales of employees in same posts in all departments should be fixed equally.
Current systems for Job Promotions and Salary increments should be changed to a better one.
Employees who work harder and has great performance track records in service should be paid better salary scales and given promotions , without leaving all promotions based on seniority only.
Appropriate changes should be made to allowances like HRA, TA, CCA .etc.
Transport and Traveling allowances should be renewed based on the current prices of petrol and diesel.
Demand for Seventh Pay Commission
Monday, November 14, 2011
ESM endorses Jan Lokpal Bill
Ex-servicemen to invite Anna for holding anti corruption rally in Himachal Ravinder Makhaik | November 11, 2011 |
Dharamshala: Ex-servicemen league of Himachal has drawn up plans to invite Anna Hazare for holding an anti-corruption rally in the state.
A former minister and president HP ex-servicemen league Vijay Singh Mankotia let Hill Post know that after holding a two day annual general meeting of the organization, three resolutions were adopted, which included sending out a team to Maharashtra for extending an invite to Anna for holding a rally at Dharamshala.
Endorsing the stand on Jan Lokpal Bill, Mankotia said the state body of ex-servicemen also intended to honour Anna, also an ex-serviceman, with Shan-e-Hind title for the fight against corruption he has been waging.
Our league supports the fight against corruption to expose corrupt politicians, bureaucrats and industrialists and work for good governance by ensuring accountability, he said.
The second resolution adopted by the league has condemned the statement of defense minister AK Antony saying that the UPA government could not concede the ‘one rank, one pay’ demand of the ex-servicemen.
For 25 years the union government has been giving a firm commitment about implementing the demand, said Mankotia.
The matter will be discussed at a national conference of ex-servicemen to be held at Delhi on 25th and 26th November.
The third resolution has asked the state government to install the statues of Major Somnath Sharma, the first Parm Vir Chakra, Major Durga Mal and Captain Dal Bhadur at the Vidhan Sabha complex at Tapovan, Dharmshala.
Major Durga Mal and Captain Dal Bhadur were Gurkha members who were part of Netaji Subash Chandra Bose’s Azad Hind Fauj and were hanged by the British rulers in 1945 and 1946.
All the three of these brave sons of India belong to an area that is within a five Kms from Tapovan, says Mankotia. There statues deserve to be part of Vidhan Sabha complex and we will be raising this demand with chief minister Prem Kumar Dhumal, he said.
Ex-servicemen to invite Anna for holding anti corruption rally in Himachal
Dharamshala: Ex-servicemen league of Himachal has drawn up plans to invite Anna Hazare for holding an anti-corruption rally in the state.
A former minister and president HP ex-servicemen league Vijay Singh Mankotia let Hill Post know that after holding a two day annual general meeting of the organization, three resolutions were adopted, which included sending out a team to Maharashtra for extending an invite to Anna for holding a rally at Dharamshala.
Endorsing the stand on Jan Lokpal Bill, Mankotia said the state body of ex-servicemen also intended to honour Anna, also an ex-serviceman, with Shan-e-Hind title for the fight against corruption he has been waging.
Our league supports the fight against corruption to expose corrupt politicians, bureaucrats and industrialists and work for good governance by ensuring accountability, he said.
The second resolution adopted by the league has condemned the statement of defense minister AK Antony saying that the UPA government could not concede the ‘one rank, one pay’ demand of the ex-servicemen.
For 25 years the union government has been giving a firm commitment about implementing the demand, said Mankotia.
The matter will be discussed at a national conference of ex-servicemen to be held at Delhi on 25th and 26th November.
The third resolution has asked the state government to install the statues of Major Somnath Sharma, the first Parm Vir Chakra, Major Durga Mal and Captain Dal Bhadur at the Vidhan Sabha complex at Tapovan, Dharmshala.
Major Durga Mal and Captain Dal Bhadur were Gurkha members who were part of Netaji Subash Chandra Bose’s Azad Hind Fauj and were hanged by the British rulers in 1945 and 1946.
All the three of these brave sons of India belong to an area that is within a five Kms from Tapovan, says Mankotia. There statues deserve to be part of Vidhan Sabha complex and we will be raising this demand with chief minister Prem Kumar Dhumal, he said.
Ex-servicemen to invite Anna for holding anti corruption rally in Himachal
Sunday, November 13, 2011
Vacancies under Maharashtra Govt
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 18:42, shrikant kulkarni wrote:
Dear sir,
I have just learnt from a very high level reliable source in Maharashtra Govt that there are over 250 vacancies in Forest Dept for contractual engagement (for 2 years at a time renewable till retirement age) for a salary of Rs. 12000/- in position of Forest Guards. These vacancies are reserved for ex-Army personnel and the salary will be in addition to their pension. The positions are open in a few specific places, namely, Yawal in Jalgaon, Chandrapur in Tadoba, and Melghat in Amravati.
In addition, 44 post are reserved for permanent for ST ex-Armymen for absorption as Govt servants till their retirement.
I request this info be circulated amongst concerned army ESM and volunteers be invited to apply. Ads, it is learnt, have already appeared in newspapers.
--
Regards,
Shrikant Kulkarni
Gp Capt (Retd)
9373777092
Dear sir,
I have just learnt from a very high level reliable source in Maharashtra Govt that there are over 250 vacancies in Forest Dept for contractual engagement (for 2 years at a time renewable till retirement age) for a salary of Rs. 12000/- in position of Forest Guards. These vacancies are reserved for ex-Army personnel and the salary will be in addition to their pension. The positions are open in a few specific places, namely, Yawal in Jalgaon, Chandrapur in Tadoba, and Melghat in Amravati.
In addition, 44 post are reserved for permanent for ST ex-Armymen for absorption as Govt servants till their retirement.
I request this info be circulated amongst concerned army ESM and volunteers be invited to apply. Ads, it is learnt, have already appeared in newspapers.
--
Regards,
Shrikant Kulkarni
Gp Capt (Retd)
9373777092
Report in Indian Express ..IESM Rally 12 Nov 2011
Report in Indian Express yesterday.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Ex-servicemen-from-city-join-OROP-campaign-in-Delhi/874999/
Ex-servicemen from city join OROP campaign in Delhi
Express news service Posted: Sun Nov 13 2011, 01:11 hrs Pune:
Joining the nationwide campaign for One Rank One Pension, members of Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) from the city participated in a rally in New Delhi on Saturday. With signatures signed with blood and medals in their hands to be returned to the President, over 3,000 ex-servicemen reiterated their demands of One Rank One Pension (OROP), National Commission for the Armed Forces and an Independent and Exclusive Pay Commission for the Armed Forces. Over 10 members from the city had joined the campaign with a few taking part in the delegation that wanted to meet President Pratibha Patil but could not do so.
“This is a serious issue and the government has not been taking due notice of the ex-servicemens’ demands. We now plan to intensify the movement. The ideal outcome of today’s movement will be to go back to our states and build up individual rallies to generate pressure on the government,” said Brigadier (retd) Sharad Luktuke, member, IESM, speaking to Newsline from Delhi. The rally that began at 10.15 am at Jantar Mantar concluded around 3 pm. ---
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Ex-servicemen-from-city-join-OROP-campaign-in-Delhi/874999/
Ex-servicemen from city join OROP campaign in Delhi
Express news service Posted: Sun Nov 13 2011, 01:11 hrs Pune:
Joining the nationwide campaign for One Rank One Pension, members of Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) from the city participated in a rally in New Delhi on Saturday. With signatures signed with blood and medals in their hands to be returned to the President, over 3,000 ex-servicemen reiterated their demands of One Rank One Pension (OROP), National Commission for the Armed Forces and an Independent and Exclusive Pay Commission for the Armed Forces. Over 10 members from the city had joined the campaign with a few taking part in the delegation that wanted to meet President Pratibha Patil but could not do so.
“This is a serious issue and the government has not been taking due notice of the ex-servicemens’ demands. We now plan to intensify the movement. The ideal outcome of today’s movement will be to go back to our states and build up individual rallies to generate pressure on the government,” said Brigadier (retd) Sharad Luktuke, member, IESM, speaking to Newsline from Delhi. The rally that began at 10.15 am at Jantar Mantar concluded around 3 pm. ---
ESM sitrep 12 November evening
Dear Colleagues,
The planned IESM rally was held today at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi. It had more than 2500 ESM and Service families from all over the country. There was palpable enthusiasm in support of continuing with our struggle for seeking justice for the ESM, fronted by OROP. There was also unanimity in demanding that we the ESM start using out voting strength in getting our just demands accepted.
A memorandum was thereafter submitted to the President highlighting the non-grant of OROP and discrimination against widows in not including them in the pension enhancement that was implemented in 2009.
Kudos to Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Group Captain Vinod Gandhi, Wing Commander CK Sharma and other team members for organizing the event in an excellent manner.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
Gurgaon- 122 001
The planned IESM rally was held today at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi. It had more than 2500 ESM and Service families from all over the country. There was palpable enthusiasm in support of continuing with our struggle for seeking justice for the ESM, fronted by OROP. There was also unanimity in demanding that we the ESM start using out voting strength in getting our just demands accepted.
A memorandum was thereafter submitted to the President highlighting the non-grant of OROP and discrimination against widows in not including them in the pension enhancement that was implemented in 2009.
Kudos to Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Group Captain Vinod Gandhi, Wing Commander CK Sharma and other team members for organizing the event in an excellent manner.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
Gurgaon- 122 001
Wednesday, November 9, 2011
Sixth Pay Commission to apply on pre-2006 retirees also: Central Administrative Tribunal
Sixth Pay Commission to apply on pre-2006 retirees also: Central Administrative Tribunal
PTI Nov 7, 2011, 06.13pm ISTTags:Sixth Central Pay Commission|Justice V K Bali
NEW DELHI: In a relief to senior citizens, who retired from government service before 2006, the Central Administrative Tribunal (CAT) has directed the Centre to re-fix their pension on the basis of recommendations of the Sixth Central Pay Commission (VI CPC).
The order will provide relief to thousands of such retired government servants whose pension would increase substantially.
A three-judge bench of CAT headed by its Chairman Justice V K Bali quashed the August 29, 2008 government resolution which amended the recomendations of the sixth pay commission due to which the pre-2006 retirees were getting lower pension than the post 2006 retirees.
The bench passed the orders on a bunch of petitions filed by individuals, their association -- Central Government Pensioners Association -- claiming pension at par with post-2006 retirees on the recommendations of the VI CPC, which took effect from January 1, 2006.
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PTI Nov 7, 2011, 06.13pm ISTTags:Sixth Central Pay Commission|Justice V K Bali
NEW DELHI: In a relief to senior citizens, who retired from government service before 2006, the Central Administrative Tribunal (CAT) has directed the Centre to re-fix their pension on the basis of recommendations of the Sixth Central Pay Commission (VI CPC).
The order will provide relief to thousands of such retired government servants whose pension would increase substantially.
A three-judge bench of CAT headed by its Chairman Justice V K Bali quashed the August 29, 2008 government resolution which amended the recomendations of the sixth pay commission due to which the pre-2006 retirees were getting lower pension than the post 2006 retirees.
The bench passed the orders on a bunch of petitions filed by individuals, their association -- Central Government Pensioners Association -- claiming pension at par with post-2006 retirees on the recommendations of the VI CPC, which took effect from January 1, 2006.
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Rally 12 Nov 2011
INDIAN EX-SERVICEMEN MOVEMENT
(IESM)
WAKE UP CALL FOR EX SERVICEMEN
IESM RALLY,
SATURDAY 12 NOVEMBER 11, 1000 HRS, JANTAR MANTAR NEW DELHI
JOIN THE RALLY IN LARGE NUMBERS TO TELL THE GENERAL PUBLIC
THAT EX-SERVICEMEN ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE GOVERNMENT POLICIES
EX- SERVICEMEN HAVING TO PROTEST TO DEMAND JUSTICE?
SAD DAY FOR THE COUNTRY!!!
ONE RANK ONE PENSION (OROP)
IS OUR RIGHT
SAME RANK+SAME SERVICE=SAME PENSION (WHATEVER BE DATE OF RETIREMENT)
EX SERVICEMEN ARE DISTRESSED AND UNHAPPY ABOUT DENIAL OF OROP
NUMBERS MATTER TO THE GOVT. BECOME IESM MEMBERS IMMEDIATELY. MOTIVATE OTHER TOO.
TO REACH JANTAR MANTAR
FROM NOIDA ALIGHT AT RAJIV CHOWK AND CHANGE TO YELLOW LINE TOWARDS GURGAON AND GET DOWN AT PATEL CHOWK AND WALK TO RALLY.
FROM GURGAON TAKE THE METRO TO RAJIV CHOWK AND ALIGHT AT PATEL CHOWK AND WALK TO THE RALLY 100 M AWAY
JAI HIND!!
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222
(IESM)
WAKE UP CALL FOR EX SERVICEMEN
IESM RALLY,
SATURDAY 12 NOVEMBER 11, 1000 HRS, JANTAR MANTAR NEW DELHI
JOIN THE RALLY IN LARGE NUMBERS TO TELL THE GENERAL PUBLIC
THAT EX-SERVICEMEN ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE GOVERNMENT POLICIES
EX- SERVICEMEN HAVING TO PROTEST TO DEMAND JUSTICE?
SAD DAY FOR THE COUNTRY!!!
ONE RANK ONE PENSION (OROP)
IS OUR RIGHT
SAME RANK+SAME SERVICE=SAME PENSION (WHATEVER BE DATE OF RETIREMENT)
EX SERVICEMEN ARE DISTRESSED AND UNHAPPY ABOUT DENIAL OF OROP
NUMBERS MATTER TO THE GOVT. BECOME IESM MEMBERS IMMEDIATELY. MOTIVATE OTHER TOO.
TO REACH JANTAR MANTAR
FROM NOIDA ALIGHT AT RAJIV CHOWK AND CHANGE TO YELLOW LINE TOWARDS GURGAON AND GET DOWN AT PATEL CHOWK AND WALK TO RALLY.
FROM GURGAON TAKE THE METRO TO RAJIV CHOWK AND ALIGHT AT PATEL CHOWK AND WALK TO THE RALLY 100 M AWAY
JAI HIND!!
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222
Monday, November 7, 2011
Meeting at Jantar Mantar on 12 Nov 2011
Dear All VETERANS
It is very unfortunate that some irresponsible veterans are spreading rumours about the existence of IESM and its well meaning actions. These disgruntled veterans are responsible for veterans being divided in small fractions and not able to unite as one single force. I normally do not give any credence to rumours but I am constrained to issue clarification because these rumours are being spread to neutralise the planned rally of IESM on the 12 November at Jantar Mantar.
Few member of IESM had been suspended from the primary membership of IESM because of indiscipline and not keeping the accounts properly. These few disgruntled ex-servicemen have started a breakaway group of ex-servicemen. Sep DS Sheoran calls himself as the President and Col K Bhardwaj as the Gen Sec of the new dispensation. Sep DS Sheoran had been denied membership of IESM because he is not an ex-serviceman as he does not get pension from the defence account which is the minimum condition of being called an ex-serviceman. This breakaway group has started rumours that they are office bearers of IESM. They have also filed cases in the court about their group being the original IESM. The matter is very strongly being contested in the court and very soon the breakaway group would loose the case in the court as all the evidence is in our favour.
Environment is aware of the legal procedure in India that anyone can file any case in Indian courts and let the case drag for years. This breakaway group has also done the same and have been requesting the court for dates to keep the case alive and create confusion in the minds of veterans. IESM has always appeared in the court on the designated dates but to our surprise the breakaway group has been absenting from appearance on one flimsy reason or the other and have been requesting for the fresh dates for hearing with the clear intentions, that is to prolong the case for many years to keep the rumours alive.
IESM office bearers have been maintaining a dignified silence on the wrong doings and ill intentions of the breakaway group and have not been issuing any statements to the environment. I have been constrained to issue clarification because of the runours spread by the breakaway group. This has been necessitated because of the demand from the large number of veterans with whom I interacted during my visit to Punjab on 5 and 6 November 2011. It is important for us to note that IESM is for welfare of all the veterans and have not spoken against any organisation. IESM believes that all organisations are doing good work and are helping the veterans. IESM welcomes and appreciates all ex-servicemen organisation which are taking up problems on behalf of veterans with the Govt.
In view of above following is issued for the benefit of environment and as rejoinder to the rumours.
IESM whose Chairman is Gen Raj Kadyan is working for the benefit of all ex-servicemen and would continue to take up cases of ex-servicemen with the Govt.
IESM is fully functional and has complete control on its activities and bank accounts.
IESM is holding a big rally at 1000h to 1400h at Jantar Mantar on 12 November 2011 Saturday to press for the demand of OROP for the ex-servicemen. Ex-servicemen from all states of India are reaching Delhi to attend the rally. All ex-servicemen are requested to attend the rally in large numbers.
IESM is holding AGM at 1030h to 1400h on 13 Nov 2011 Sunday at AVCC Sector 37 Noida. All members of IESM are requested to attend the AGM in large numbers.
IESM will be leading a delegation of widows to discuss the problem of widows pension with Raksha Mantri on 14 Nov 2011.
IESM will continue to take up issues of ex-servicemen with the Govt.
IESM has more than 16000 members from all states of India and the number is increasing by the day.
IESM has been pledged support by a large number of ex-servicemen organisations, from various states of India, in its fight for justice and self respect of ex-servicemen.
IESM is planning to have rallies in all states of India to air the problems of ex-servicemen to the authorities.
IESM has been able to convince the state assemblies of Punjab and Himachal Pradesh to pass unanimous resolution for grant of OROP for ex-servicemen. Effort is on to convince other state Govt to pass the similar resolution.
IESM has been able to convince the Parliament committee on defence to recommend OROP for ex-servicemen. This committee has recommended OROP for ex-servicemen in three different papers to the Govt of India.
IESM along with other organisations has made a strong presentation to petition committee of Parliament to recommend OROP for the ex-servicemen. This committee would submit its report to Speaker Lok Sabha in the winter session of Parliament. IESM is very hopeful that the report would be in favour of ex-servicemen.
IESM has also been interacting with MsP of Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha to support the case of OROP for ex-servicemen.
IESM requests to all ex-sevicemen to be careful of such rumours and please note that the grand rally of IESM will be held as per program on 12 Nov 2011 at 1000h to 1400h at Jantar Mantar New Delhi. Ex -servicemen from all states of India will be reaching Delhi to attend the rally. All ex-servicemen are requested to attend the rally in large numbers.
ITS NOW OR NEVER ALL VETERANS PLEASE COME FOR THE RALLY AND BE COUNTED.
INDIVIDUALLY WE ARE WEAK BUT TOGETHER WE WOULD BE LIKE A TORNADO AND SHAKE UP ANY LARGE TREE. TOGETHER WE WOULD BE A FORCE TO RECKON WITH.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222
It is very unfortunate that some irresponsible veterans are spreading rumours about the existence of IESM and its well meaning actions. These disgruntled veterans are responsible for veterans being divided in small fractions and not able to unite as one single force. I normally do not give any credence to rumours but I am constrained to issue clarification because these rumours are being spread to neutralise the planned rally of IESM on the 12 November at Jantar Mantar.
Few member of IESM had been suspended from the primary membership of IESM because of indiscipline and not keeping the accounts properly. These few disgruntled ex-servicemen have started a breakaway group of ex-servicemen. Sep DS Sheoran calls himself as the President and Col K Bhardwaj as the Gen Sec of the new dispensation. Sep DS Sheoran had been denied membership of IESM because he is not an ex-serviceman as he does not get pension from the defence account which is the minimum condition of being called an ex-serviceman. This breakaway group has started rumours that they are office bearers of IESM. They have also filed cases in the court about their group being the original IESM. The matter is very strongly being contested in the court and very soon the breakaway group would loose the case in the court as all the evidence is in our favour.
Environment is aware of the legal procedure in India that anyone can file any case in Indian courts and let the case drag for years. This breakaway group has also done the same and have been requesting the court for dates to keep the case alive and create confusion in the minds of veterans. IESM has always appeared in the court on the designated dates but to our surprise the breakaway group has been absenting from appearance on one flimsy reason or the other and have been requesting for the fresh dates for hearing with the clear intentions, that is to prolong the case for many years to keep the rumours alive.
IESM office bearers have been maintaining a dignified silence on the wrong doings and ill intentions of the breakaway group and have not been issuing any statements to the environment. I have been constrained to issue clarification because of the runours spread by the breakaway group. This has been necessitated because of the demand from the large number of veterans with whom I interacted during my visit to Punjab on 5 and 6 November 2011. It is important for us to note that IESM is for welfare of all the veterans and have not spoken against any organisation. IESM believes that all organisations are doing good work and are helping the veterans. IESM welcomes and appreciates all ex-servicemen organisation which are taking up problems on behalf of veterans with the Govt.
In view of above following is issued for the benefit of environment and as rejoinder to the rumours.
IESM whose Chairman is Gen Raj Kadyan is working for the benefit of all ex-servicemen and would continue to take up cases of ex-servicemen with the Govt.
IESM is fully functional and has complete control on its activities and bank accounts.
IESM is holding a big rally at 1000h to 1400h at Jantar Mantar on 12 November 2011 Saturday to press for the demand of OROP for the ex-servicemen. Ex-servicemen from all states of India are reaching Delhi to attend the rally. All ex-servicemen are requested to attend the rally in large numbers.
IESM is holding AGM at 1030h to 1400h on 13 Nov 2011 Sunday at AVCC Sector 37 Noida. All members of IESM are requested to attend the AGM in large numbers.
IESM will be leading a delegation of widows to discuss the problem of widows pension with Raksha Mantri on 14 Nov 2011.
IESM will continue to take up issues of ex-servicemen with the Govt.
IESM has more than 16000 members from all states of India and the number is increasing by the day.
IESM has been pledged support by a large number of ex-servicemen organisations, from various states of India, in its fight for justice and self respect of ex-servicemen.
IESM is planning to have rallies in all states of India to air the problems of ex-servicemen to the authorities.
IESM has been able to convince the state assemblies of Punjab and Himachal Pradesh to pass unanimous resolution for grant of OROP for ex-servicemen. Effort is on to convince other state Govt to pass the similar resolution.
IESM has been able to convince the Parliament committee on defence to recommend OROP for ex-servicemen. This committee has recommended OROP for ex-servicemen in three different papers to the Govt of India.
IESM along with other organisations has made a strong presentation to petition committee of Parliament to recommend OROP for the ex-servicemen. This committee would submit its report to Speaker Lok Sabha in the winter session of Parliament. IESM is very hopeful that the report would be in favour of ex-servicemen.
IESM has also been interacting with MsP of Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha to support the case of OROP for ex-servicemen.
IESM requests to all ex-sevicemen to be careful of such rumours and please note that the grand rally of IESM will be held as per program on 12 Nov 2011 at 1000h to 1400h at Jantar Mantar New Delhi. Ex -servicemen from all states of India will be reaching Delhi to attend the rally. All ex-servicemen are requested to attend the rally in large numbers.
ITS NOW OR NEVER ALL VETERANS PLEASE COME FOR THE RALLY AND BE COUNTED.
INDIVIDUALLY WE ARE WEAK BUT TOGETHER WE WOULD BE LIKE A TORNADO AND SHAKE UP ANY LARGE TREE. TOGETHER WE WOULD BE A FORCE TO RECKON WITH.
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
L - 48, Sector - 25,
NOIDA. 201301
Tele no 01204313951
Mobile 09810541222
Monday, October 24, 2011
Tuesday, October 18, 2011
JOB OF TECNICIAN
From: triloki bhatara
To: IESM; IESM Pune
Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: JOB OF TECNICIAN
A job opening from naukri.com for ESMs, especially for ex-IAF technicians.
Gp Capt (Retd) TK Bhatara tkbhatara@yahoo.co.in
Technician
11 Opening(s)
HBE Group
Summary
Experience:15 - 25 Years
Location:Coimbatore, Port Blair, Srinagar
Compensation:Best in industry
Education:UG - Any Graduate - Any Specialization,Graduation Not Required
PG - Any PG Course - Any Specialization,Post Graduation Not Required
Industry Type:Aviation / Aerospace Firms
Role:Maintenance Engnr
Functional Area:Site Engg., Project Management
Posted Date:13 Sep
Job Description
Preventive & Breakdown Maintenance of Air Survillance radar.Required local Ex Air force, Ex Army, Ex Navy Personnel for following location:
Gwalior, Jammu, Srinagar, Leh, Sullur, P Blair, Carnicobar, Pune, Tezpur, Hyderabad, Bangalore
Keywords: Radar, Ex - Army, Ex - Airforce, Ex - Navy, Ex - Defense, Ex - Defence
Desired Candidate Profile
Required local Ex Air force, Ex Army, Ex Navy Personnel (non commisioned officer). Experience in Maintenance of Radar is a must.
Company Profile
HBE Group was Founded in the year 1997 with the vision of delivering state of the art solutions for Broadcast Industry .
The organization soon diversified in to high technology area of Aviation with offerings comprises wide range of solution for Communication, Navigation, Surveillance (ATC) and modernization of airports related products
Recently HBE Group has added complete range of meteorological solutions and entered in to Defence segment with syenergical offerings for Air Traffic Management (ATM), Modernization of Airfields (Indian Air force & Indian Navy) and Meteorological solutions and our core strengths entrenched in high tech electronics coupled with IT.
Turnover - USD 60 Millions for FY 2008, Current Headcounts-150.
Major Principals- Tandberg, Harris, Axia, Latens, Visilink, Net Insight, Jampro, RGB, Vaisala, Aerodate, Terma, ST, Sensis, Frequentis, Rapiscan and others esteemed partners……!!!
We have also established a brand independent service company to offer installation, testing, commissioning and operation and maintenance activities for high end technical projects. Our state of the art service division is accredited by ISO 9001-2000 certification. You may also visit www.hbeindia.com to get more information.
Contact Details
Company Name:HBE Group
Website:http://www.hbeindia.com
Executive Name:Swati Mittal
Address:Not Mentioned
Email Address:careers@threedis.com
Telephone:Not Mentioned
To: IESM
Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: JOB OF TECNICIAN
A job opening from naukri.com for ESMs, especially for ex-IAF technicians.
Gp Capt (Retd) TK Bhatara tkbhatara@yahoo.co.in
Technician
11 Opening(s)
HBE Group
Summary
Experience:15 - 25 Years
Location:Coimbatore, Port Blair, Srinagar
Compensation:Best in industry
Education:UG - Any Graduate - Any Specialization,Graduation Not Required
PG - Any PG Course - Any Specialization,Post Graduation Not Required
Industry Type:Aviation / Aerospace Firms
Role:Maintenance Engnr
Functional Area:Site Engg., Project Management
Posted Date:13 Sep
Job Description
Preventive & Breakdown Maintenance of Air Survillance radar.Required local Ex Air force, Ex Army, Ex Navy Personnel for following location:
Gwalior, Jammu, Srinagar, Leh, Sullur, P Blair, Carnicobar, Pune, Tezpur, Hyderabad, Bangalore
Keywords: Radar, Ex - Army, Ex - Airforce, Ex - Navy, Ex - Defense, Ex - Defence
Desired Candidate Profile
Required local Ex Air force, Ex Army, Ex Navy Personnel (non commisioned officer). Experience in Maintenance of Radar is a must.
Company Profile
HBE Group was Founded in the year 1997 with the vision of delivering state of the art solutions for Broadcast Industry .
The organization soon diversified in to high technology area of Aviation with offerings comprises wide range of solution for Communication, Navigation, Surveillance (ATC) and modernization of airports related products
Recently HBE Group has added complete range of meteorological solutions and entered in to Defence segment with syenergical offerings for Air Traffic Management (ATM), Modernization of Airfields (Indian Air force & Indian Navy) and Meteorological solutions and our core strengths entrenched in high tech electronics coupled with IT.
Turnover - USD 60 Millions for FY 2008, Current Headcounts-150.
Major Principals- Tandberg, Harris, Axia, Latens, Visilink, Net Insight, Jampro, RGB, Vaisala, Aerodate, Terma, ST, Sensis, Frequentis, Rapiscan and others esteemed partners……!!!
We have also established a brand independent service company to offer installation, testing, commissioning and operation and maintenance activities for high end technical projects. Our state of the art service division is accredited by ISO 9001-2000 certification. You may also visit www.hbeindia.com to get more information.
Contact Details
Company Name:HBE Group
Website:http://www.hbeindia.com
Executive Name:Swati Mittal
Address:Not Mentioned
Email Address:careers@threedis.com
Telephone:Not Mentioned
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