Monday, March 30, 2009

Mathura Visit by IESM Team of Lt General Kadyan , Maj gen Jaini, Col Kirit Joshipura and Col Tyagi today 30 March 2009

Date: Monday, 30 March, 2009, 1:45 AM

Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.

Maj Gen Jaini, Col Joshipura, Col Tyagi and self visited Mathura and Agra today and interacted with ESM. Mathura visit, anchored by Col Vikram Singh, had 500 ESM and a few families attending. In Agra Hony Capt Keshav Dev played the hub, with some 60 ESM in attendance. At both places there was tremendous enthusiasm and all pedged to attend the 12 April rally and bring along maximum numbers.
At both places there were repeated requests for directions on voting choice in the Parliamentary elections.
Best regards,

Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A
Gurgaon- 122 001
Tele: 91+124-4015262
91+ 9811226676

"Hindi Version" IESM Team visits Jahajjar 28 Mar 2009..Thanks to Col James Kanagaraj

प्रिय साथियों,

इस जंतर मंतर (Jantar Mantar) सक्रिय रहने के लिए जारी है. दौरा कर्नल कंवर भारद्वाज द्वारा मैं हरियाणा में Jahajjar जिले का दौरा किया और गांव में एक रैली में भाग लिया Dhor के साथ थे. 2000 ESM और परिवारों से अधिक दूर गांवों से दूर से आया था. यह पता, तन्मय ध्यान के साथ मिला, जोर से तालियाँ द्वारा दर था. उनके बीच में जो मैं 1978-1980 में नागालैंड में आज्ञा दी कि इस बटालियन में किए गए कई थे. मैं कैसे वे कभी और तैयार किए गए स्मरण विद्रोहियों से लड़ने में अपने आदेश में अपने जीवन डालने के लिए तैयार. मैं आज भी यही वफादारी की पहचान कर सके. मैं पहले दोष है कि अब तक हम उन्हें न्याय प्राप्त करने में सफल नहीं किया है के साथ पार किया गया. तो मुझे लगता है कि हम मिल तक के प्रयासों के साथ पर ले जाने के लिए समाधान के एक नवीकरण भावना महसूस किया. वहाँ कोरस जिस पर पार्टी को चुनावों में वोट करने के लिए हमारे आदेशों की मांग कर रहा था. मैं उन्हें जल्द ही हमारे सलाहकार के साथ प्राप्त करने का वादा किया. कल, जनरल जीत (Jaini), कर्नल कौशल उत्साह (Krit Joshipura), कर्नल त्यागी और मैं अपने सहयोगी ESM से अधिक को पूरा करने के लिए मथुरा और आगरा की यात्रा पर जाएंगे.
लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल (आइशर) राज Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
IESMReaders are requested to send in improved version of translation for republication.

Visit to Jahajjar on Sat 28 , 2009

Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 10:23 PM
Dear Colleagues,
The Jantar Mantar continues to remain active.
Accompanied by Col Kanwar Bhardwaj I visited Jahajjar District in Haryana and attended a rally at village Dhor. Over 2000 ESM and families had come from far off villages. The address, received with rapt attention, was punctuated by loud applause. There were several among them who were in the Battalion that I commanded in 1978-1980 in Nagaland. I recalled how they were ever prepared and willing to lay down their life at my command in fighting insurgents. I could detect the same loyalty today. I was first overcome with guilt that so far we have not succeeded in getting them justice. Then I felt a renewed sense of resolve to carry on with the efforts till we get it.
There was chorus demanding our orders on which party to vote in the elections. I promised to get back to them soon with our advisory. Tomorrow, Gen Jaini, Col Krit Joshipura, Col Tyagi and I will be visiting Mathura and Agra to meet more of our colleague ESM.

Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM

Report My Signal dated 29 March 2009..IESM & IESL Mails

REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj) to Kamboj
show details 11:49 AM (-1855 minutes ago)

Reply Brigadier C. S. Kamboj, VSM., VETERAN,
Email -
Phone - (0120) - 2454279 (Prefix from Delhi -95120).
Snail Mail - 551, Sector 28, NOIDA - 201303.




29 Mar 09.
All Members And ESM Organisations
On Emailing List of "Report My Signal".
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
Some of the emails received from the members are reproduced below.
On behalf of YOU ALL, 'i' thank all the members who sent these emails to us.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj.
From: jaspal bhinder
Subject: [MilitaryVeterans] UNITY
To: "Brig. rksgulia"
Cc: "Brig. Harwant"
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 12:43 PM
Dear Brig.Gulia Sir,
It heartening news that IESL will also join in the protest on 12 April.''United we stand divided we fall''. Well done and keep up your good work for the welfare of ESMs,notwithstanding who is heading which organization.All ESMs, irespective of which service they served, should fight this injustice unitedly.Kindly see if you can persuade Air Force Association also to join this protest on 12 April. Personal ambitions of any individuals should not affect our unity.The need of the hour is UNITY.Good Luck.
(Gp Capt Jaspal Bhinder, Bangalore)

From: jaspal bhinder
Subject: United we stand divided we fall ! Congratulations
To: "Radha Krishnan RN" ,
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 11:23 AM
Dear Radhakrishnan Sir,
I am so glad that you have become a binding force for all the veterans,my heartiest congratulations to you. You have shown such high level of maturity ,unfortunately lacking amongst most of the veterans.I hope you will continue to strive hard for the welfare of ESMs. Let us hope 12 April will be a big show and it should create some ripples in the power corridors.If this rally is successful we may find some bending on the part of the Govt,in view of the forthcoming Elections.I wish you all success.
Kamboj sir we are very very thankful to you for taking the initiative once again for a united fight against the injustice done to ESMs .This is the only way we can hope to achieve something.I consider both of you our strong pillars. Hope all of you will work together for our common goal.I am enclosing an email which i wrote recently to MOS for Defence.Kindly do not publish it.
(Gp Capt Jaspal Bhinder, Bangalore)

----- Original Message -----
From: Balbir Kataria
To: Raj Kadyan ; Satbir ; REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)"
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - IESM SITREP FOR 27 MAR 09 - EMAIL 263/2009 -27 MAR 09 - (H to L)

Dear All,
I extend my felicitations for achieving the agreement IESM and IESL to work together hence forth. My Compliments to both IESM and IESL in showing great maturity and arriving at this togetherness for it is only this way that we shall be able to succeed in our MISSION: JUSTICE FOR DEFENCE SERVICES.
My heartiest congratulations.

Indeed I feel proud of the far sighted approach shown in this achievement. I have been enthusiastically looking forward to it.

With fond and affectionate regards,


Major General Balbir K Kataria, VSM
1233 Sector 29
Arun Vihar
Noida 201301

From: Krishen Khorana
Subject: RE: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - IESM SITREP FOR 27 MAR 09 - EMAIL 263/2009 -27 MAR 09 - (H to L)
To: "Brig CS Kamboj"
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 5:28 AM
Dear Sirs,
Coming together of IESL and IESM is the best news in a long time. We can all remain the typical 'Argumentative Indian' in Amartaya Sen style, as long as at the end of the day we emerge smiling and carrying the torch "together".
Congratulations to all and with all good wishes for the future.
Maj Gen (Retd) K Khorana
2/2, Panchkula.
From: Ram Gulrajani
Subject: IESL + IESM
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 8:57 AM
Dear Sirs

The coming together of IESL and IESM augurs well for the ESM community. I salute Generals Radhakrishnan and Kadyan for their sagacious efforts.

With this unity the covert efforts of babus and their cohorts to divide ESM is now behind us. The pressure of this Combine will have telling effect on babugiri. Ignoring Veterans hereafter will be at their peril. The storm is now a cyclone. Beware babus before it turns into a typhoon.

Best wishes and many regards
Col. Ram Gulrajani (Veteran)
From: Karan Kharb
To: ; raj kadyan ; Brig RKS Gulia ; IESL
Cc: Kamboj Chander ;
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:07 PM
Subject: Congratulations IESL & IESM!

Dear Gen Kadyan and Brig Gulia,

Heartiest congratulations on your coming together. A holy alliance between IESL and IESM will, no doubt, bloom into a blessed, happy, responsible and productive wedlock that will deliver - in times to come - the much awaited baby Cornucopia to everyone's delight.

That was to say it in lighter vein. More significantly, your Unity will boost up the speed and momentum of the Movement making it a Force that will be hard to be ignored by any government. So, I wish you all success and glory.

Now, you are a joint Movement at national level without a rival. It therefore calls for an expanded vision too. As the national scene stands today, Indian media and the people are no longer enamoured with the political class. The common man has no confidence in the systems of governance. Everyone has devised ways and means to deal with the government agencies and pays for what should be genuinely his for free. Military still commands a cosy corner of Indian People’s heart. However, at a time like now, when people find us talking only about self-serving issues and not about larger national issues, they find us measuring up less than their expectations. At a time like this when the nation is going general elections, I think we should lend voice to burning national issues as well, eg: national security and terrorism, corruption, entry of criminals into politics, Parties promoting communal hatred to ‘divide and rule’ and so on.

For more details, I invite you to visit my Blog:

Secondly, it is no use crying hoarse that ‘WE ARE THE BEST’. In our exuberance many of our well meaning and learned veterans also seem to succumb to their inner rage against organisations like Police and para-military forces. I too felt really hurt at the way Ashok Chakras were distributed in the post 26/11 Mumbai and wrote about it. But our failure to exercise restraint over emotion triggers nausea and we spew up – a scene no one likes! There are many – or let’s say quite a few – officers in the IPS as well as IAS who have respect for our profession. Our angry outbursts and extravagant use of nearly abusive language, sarcasms and loose-talk adds more to the enemy strength. We must develop the right style to take a headshot with a silencer version weapon! Write-ups against Military in blog ‘Pragmatic Euphony’ do it with remarkable subtlety – so bad that you would feel like catching the writer and shooting him at the nearest short range! But any common reader is compelled to think over about the points these write-ups raise! They build up logic and rationale backed by convincing data.

Once again, my heartiest congratulations to everyone at the IESL and IESM.


Karan Kharb
(Col Karan Kharb, Noida)
From: kamal khanna
Subject: Re: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - IESM SITREP FOR 27 MAR 09 - EMAIL 263/2009 -27 MAR 09 - (H to L)
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj)" ,
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 11:04 AM
Dear Sir,

Great news about your meeting the IESL. Wish you all the best.

Hope the IESL will disseminate to the States quickly.


(Lt Gen KK Khanna, Former Commandant IMA)
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 1:26 AM
Dear Friends,

It is with great interest that I read about the 'history in making'.

In this respect I would like to draw your attention to my email sent to Chander Kamboj on 28 Feb 2008. The rate at which IESM is catching on [ like a bloody epidemic, I say!! ], I have no doubt that IESL will have to join us. Maybe they've seen the writing on the wall. The email ibid is attached below.

I would like to thank and commend you all [ and many other workers and leaders ] for your selfless, untiring efforts despite criticism [ at times snide and angry ] from many. Please carry on with the good work, God bless you all.

I had recommended in the past that we (a) co-opt PBORs in a big way as they are the bulk and backbone of any veteran movement and (b) use our political clout, especially our serving personnel who can vote at their places of posting and who can help us return veterans as MPs from cantonment towns. I am very glad to see that many more of us are now thinking on these lines; I have nary a doubt, never had any from day one in fact, that ham honge kaamyaab !!

Now for a little story to raise your morale. In a small Italian town, a young man painted a picture and put it on an easel at a prominent place. He put up a notice to say that if anyone noticed a defect in the painting, they were requested to mark it with a cross by using the pencil provided for this purpose. Next day when he came to the spot, he found his painting marked with hundreds of crosses. He was devastated.

A wise friend of his advised him to paint another picture and follow his advice. This painting was again displayed at the same place. The notice now invited people to use the brushes and paints provide and correct any defects they saw in the painting. Next day the two friends came and saw that no one had touched the painting.

So, my friends, it is very easy to criticise as many of you must have experienced; however, to work hard and deliver is a different matter altogether. So, please take the criticism in your stride and press on regardless.

Once again. Many thanks, bahut shabaash, lage raho munna bhai log, manzil nazdeek aa rahi hai.

Kind regards...........................K K Punchhi.
(Cdr KK Punchhi, 7 JSW, Naval Aviation, settled in Canada)

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:23:23 +0000

Chhote Bhai,

I just thought I'll share two points with you.

First one is OROP....... edited ................

Next point is an advance thinking and keep it strictly to yourself. I can foresee a day when IESL will join or will be forced to join IESM. That will be the day when our Ganga will have gone past the sangam at Prayag or Allahabad. I shall duly declare so. We would have then gone approx half way to our goal called Ganga Sagar. Have patience.

Fond regards..........................kkp.
From: MK Jain
Subject: Re: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - IESM SITREP FOR 27 MAR 09 - EMAIL 263/2009 -27 MAR 09 - (H to L)
To: ""REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)"
Date: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 9:42 AM

From: colonelrajan srinivas
Subject: Re: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - IESM SITREP FOR 27 MAR 09 - EMAIL 263/2009 -27 MAR 09 - (R to S)
To: ""REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)"
Cc: "CoreG15" , "M V -" , "Maj Gen RN Radhakrishnan" , "Brig RK Singh Gulia" , "Gulia RK Singh Brig" , "iesl brig gulia"
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 6:09 AM
Three Cheers to IESM & IESL Unity.

Three Cheers to Veteran Lt Gen Raj Kadyan, Veteran Brig RKS Gulia & Veteran Maj Gen RN Radhakrishnan.

Three Cheers to the Core Groups of IESM & IESL.

Colonel Rajan
(Col SS Rajan, Member IESM Steering Committee and Convener IESM Bangalore)
From: Samay Ram
Subject: Re: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - IESM SITREP FOR 27 MAR 09 - EMAIL 263/2009 -27 MAR 09 - (R to S)
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 1:30 PM
Dear Brig,
I was immensly pleased to know that the IESL and IESM have finally agreed to come together and fight for the common cause. My grateful thanks and heartiest congratulations to both the organisations. This is what I had been insisting on for long,

2. The IESL members will not now hesitate to stand shoulder to shoulder and this will strenghten our case.

3. I am sure it will have great impact on all the political parties.
Well done .
With Regards,
Maj Gen Samay Ram

From: Charan Singh
Subject: Re: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - IESM SITREP FOR 27 MAR 09 - EMAIL 263/2009 -27 MAR 09 - (C to G)
Cc: "IESL" , "Gen Raj Kadyan"
Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 3:19 PM


We, Maj Gen Bikram Singh (Immediate Past President IESL), Brig Charan Singh , Col TS Jaswal , Col Kuldeep Singh , Col DP Vashist , Col Sat Dev Singh, Col PS Rajput, Col Rajinder Sngh ,Col Ajmer Singh, Hony Capt DS Minhas& & many more from UNA (HP) extend heartiest congratulations to IESM & IESL managers for achieving great unity in the best interests of the Indian ESM community . Both sides have displayed great wisdom & farsightedness in time of need of the hour We are sure this Unity will be maintained at all costs for all time to come to achieve the cherished goal of OROP & other aims. We also pray that all other ESM organisations in the country forgetting their petty differences join hands with IESM & IESL united front without any further loss of time in the common interests of all Indian ESM & achieve the cherished goals. Vey well done,

High Regards
Brig Charan Singh (RETD)
On behalf of UNA ESM Group