From: vijay Rajurs [mailto:vijvick@yahoo.com]
Sent: 25 February 2010 21:50
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
Subject: your postings
Dear Brig. Kamboj,
I read most of your postings forwarded by one of my friends who is a retired service officer. I come from a family of soldiers and feel deeply hurt by the way service personnel,particularly the army is being ill treated. I smell a deep conspiracy to undermine the morale of our service men.If it is so I cannot guess the purpose of such a conspiracy. It is more than exercising one's superiority. This needs to be probed and brought to light. We , the civilians, need to know all that is happening and rest assured the aam admi even today holds our soldiers in great esteem.
Pray Almighty you will succeed in all your endeavours.
Regards,
Prof. Vijay Rajurs
Thursday, February 25, 2010
Donations from Bangalore / Noida / Secunderabad
From: satbir singh
Subject: Contributions by the Veterans
To: "Kamboj Chander"
Date: Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 3:15 PM
Dear Friends
We thanks the following veterans for the contributions to the IESM A/C:-
(a) Wg Cdr KM Vijayan, Bangalore - Rs 2000/-
(b) Lt Col R.K. Chawala, Bangalore - Rs 1000/-
(c) Lt Gen BK Bopanna, Noida - Rs 3000/-
(d) Col Vishnu Swarup Verma, Secuendrabad - Rs 1000/-
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile : 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
Subject: Contributions by the Veterans
To: "Kamboj Chander"
Date: Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 3:15 PM
Dear Friends
We thanks the following veterans for the contributions to the IESM A/C:-
(a) Wg Cdr KM Vijayan, Bangalore - Rs 2000/-
(b) Lt Col R.K. Chawala, Bangalore - Rs 1000/-
(c) Lt Gen BK Bopanna, Noida - Rs 3000/-
(d) Col Vishnu Swarup Verma, Secuendrabad - Rs 1000/-
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile : 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo.com
Indian RAF war hero to publish life story by V Adm Harinder Singh
Indian RAF war hero to publish life story
9:00am Sunday 21st February 2010
Squadron Leader Mahinder Singh Pujji joined the RAF in 1940 looking for an adventure. Now aged 91, he tells DAVID MILLS how he became the eyes of the army.
WHEN 22-year-old Mahinder Singh Pujji spotted an Indian newspaper advert calling on pilots to join the RAF in 1940, he eagerly volunteered.
But the Shell Oil refuelling superintendent had not heard much about Hitler, nor did he know much about the war.
Sqn Ldr Pujji always wanted to fly and his dream was realised when he got his pilot licence in 1937 after serving an apprenticeship with Himalayan Airlines.
His employers gladly released him to join the RAF, stating he could have his job back, if he returned alive.
Sqn Ldr Pujji went on to fly 25 different types of aircraft, including Spitfires, Hurricanes and Tomahawks.
He had more than one dice with death and his military achievements led him to meet world leaders such as Winston Churchill, Gandhi, King Farouk of Egypt, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth II.
.
Sqn Ldr Pujji, who lives in sheltered housing in The Grove, Gravesend, has written a book about his experiences during the war called For King and Another Country, due to be published later this year.
His father, one of the few Indian senior officers in government during the Raj, did not agree with his son’s choice to join the RAF.
He said: “My father said there's no sense in what you have done.
“Why have you decided to leave your comfortable, good, well-paid job and take unnecessary risk?
“My father wasn't interested in the war effort. We had hardly heard of Hitler. I joined because I wanted an adventure in flying.”
After arriving in Britain as one of 24 Indian pilots, he undertook military training and soon discovered a cause to fight for.
Sqn Ldr Pujji said: “What happened between 1940-41 converted me. London was being bombed day and night.
“The Germans created havoc all over the UK. That's why I felt I was fighting a just cause. I knew why the war broke out and who Hitler was.
“Why did Britain go to war? It went to war to save Europe and I went to war for Britain. I saw the people here and had admiration for them.”
Sqn Ldr Pujji was the only fighter pilot in the world allowed to keep his turban on while he flew.
He had RAF wings attached to it especially, and believes it saved his life when his plane encountered difficulties flying over the English Channel and crashed into the white cliffs of Dover.
He said: “Every day was a question of life and death. Every flight we made we weren’t sure we were going to come back.
“It's a job which can't easily be described, escorting convoys over the English Channel, going over occupied countries looking out for enemies, escorting bombers and making interceptions, which was the most important and dangerous.
“In one minute we would have to be strapped in and up in the air ready to meet enemy fighters. This was three to four times a day, throughout six months.”
Sqn Ldr Pujji had another lucky escape when he was shot down by Rommel’s army in the Western Desert in north Africa.
He said: “I didn't know what to do. I wasn't on fire, I didn't get hurt. I knew if I carried on north I would get to the Mediterranean, but any other direction I knew nothing.
“I gave up and sat on top of my plane and after a while I saw a cloud of dust, I did not mind who it was picking me up, Germany or Britain.
“I started waving my shirt and luckily it was the British.”
But his most incredible achievement was in Burma, where he rescued 300 American soldiers surrounded by Japanese troops in the jungle, which won him the Distinguished Flying Cross.
Father-of-three Sqn Ldr Pujji said: “There was panic, the American air force tried for two days but couldn’t find them. They knew they were running short of rations and ammunition.
“The RAF tried but couldn't find them. I was approached, they said: ‘Pujji, we hear you're the eyes of the army, there are 300 troops without adequate safeguard, can you and your boys try and locate them?’ “I won't tell you how I did it. It's in the book.”
ETHNIC MINORITIES AT WAR
The contribution of ethnic minorities to Britain’s efforts during the Second World War is often understated.
From a population of more than 380 million, two-and-a-half million soldiers came from India, with more than 200,000 from east Africa and around 150,000 from west Africa.
As well as a fighting a major campaign in Burma, Indians saw combat in north Africa, Eritrea, Abyssinia, the Middle East, the Far East and Italy.
Some joined the Royal Indian Air Force or the Royal Indian Navy while thousands of women signed up to the Women’s Royal Indian Naval Service or the Women’s Auxiliary Corps.
India suffered huge casualties from the war, with around 36,000 volunteers either killed or reported missing; more than 64,000 were wounded, and almost 80,000 were captured as prisoners of war.
Thirty Victorian Crosses, the highest military decoration, were awarded to members of the Indian Army in the Second World War.
9:00am Sunday 21st February 2010
Squadron Leader Mahinder Singh Pujji joined the RAF in 1940 looking for an adventure. Now aged 91, he tells DAVID MILLS how he became the eyes of the army.
WHEN 22-year-old Mahinder Singh Pujji spotted an Indian newspaper advert calling on pilots to join the RAF in 1940, he eagerly volunteered.
But the Shell Oil refuelling superintendent had not heard much about Hitler, nor did he know much about the war.
Sqn Ldr Pujji always wanted to fly and his dream was realised when he got his pilot licence in 1937 after serving an apprenticeship with Himalayan Airlines.
His employers gladly released him to join the RAF, stating he could have his job back, if he returned alive.
Sqn Ldr Pujji went on to fly 25 different types of aircraft, including Spitfires, Hurricanes and Tomahawks.
He had more than one dice with death and his military achievements led him to meet world leaders such as Winston Churchill, Gandhi, King Farouk of Egypt, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth II.
.
Sqn Ldr Pujji, who lives in sheltered housing in The Grove, Gravesend, has written a book about his experiences during the war called For King and Another Country, due to be published later this year.
His father, one of the few Indian senior officers in government during the Raj, did not agree with his son’s choice to join the RAF.
He said: “My father said there's no sense in what you have done.
“Why have you decided to leave your comfortable, good, well-paid job and take unnecessary risk?
“My father wasn't interested in the war effort. We had hardly heard of Hitler. I joined because I wanted an adventure in flying.”
After arriving in Britain as one of 24 Indian pilots, he undertook military training and soon discovered a cause to fight for.
Sqn Ldr Pujji said: “What happened between 1940-41 converted me. London was being bombed day and night.
“The Germans created havoc all over the UK. That's why I felt I was fighting a just cause. I knew why the war broke out and who Hitler was.
“Why did Britain go to war? It went to war to save Europe and I went to war for Britain. I saw the people here and had admiration for them.”
Sqn Ldr Pujji was the only fighter pilot in the world allowed to keep his turban on while he flew.
He had RAF wings attached to it especially, and believes it saved his life when his plane encountered difficulties flying over the English Channel and crashed into the white cliffs of Dover.
He said: “Every day was a question of life and death. Every flight we made we weren’t sure we were going to come back.
“It's a job which can't easily be described, escorting convoys over the English Channel, going over occupied countries looking out for enemies, escorting bombers and making interceptions, which was the most important and dangerous.
“In one minute we would have to be strapped in and up in the air ready to meet enemy fighters. This was three to four times a day, throughout six months.”
Sqn Ldr Pujji had another lucky escape when he was shot down by Rommel’s army in the Western Desert in north Africa.
He said: “I didn't know what to do. I wasn't on fire, I didn't get hurt. I knew if I carried on north I would get to the Mediterranean, but any other direction I knew nothing.
“I gave up and sat on top of my plane and after a while I saw a cloud of dust, I did not mind who it was picking me up, Germany or Britain.
“I started waving my shirt and luckily it was the British.”
But his most incredible achievement was in Burma, where he rescued 300 American soldiers surrounded by Japanese troops in the jungle, which won him the Distinguished Flying Cross.
Father-of-three Sqn Ldr Pujji said: “There was panic, the American air force tried for two days but couldn’t find them. They knew they were running short of rations and ammunition.
“The RAF tried but couldn't find them. I was approached, they said: ‘Pujji, we hear you're the eyes of the army, there are 300 troops without adequate safeguard, can you and your boys try and locate them?’ “I won't tell you how I did it. It's in the book.”
ETHNIC MINORITIES AT WAR
The contribution of ethnic minorities to Britain’s efforts during the Second World War is often understated.
From a population of more than 380 million, two-and-a-half million soldiers came from India, with more than 200,000 from east Africa and around 150,000 from west Africa.
As well as a fighting a major campaign in Burma, Indians saw combat in north Africa, Eritrea, Abyssinia, the Middle East, the Far East and Italy.
Some joined the Royal Indian Air Force or the Royal Indian Navy while thousands of women signed up to the Women’s Royal Indian Naval Service or the Women’s Auxiliary Corps.
India suffered huge casualties from the war, with around 36,000 volunteers either killed or reported missing; more than 64,000 were wounded, and almost 80,000 were captured as prisoners of war.
Thirty Victorian Crosses, the highest military decoration, were awarded to members of the Indian Army in the Second World War.
Sukna Case COI and AFT Ruling:Disgrace for Armed Forces by Wg Cdr Shashank Bendre
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From: Shashank Bendre bendresr@gmail.com
Sent: 23 February 2010 14:07
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
Cc: DELETED
Subject: Sukna Case COI and AFT Ruling:Disgrace for Armed Forces
Sir,
I will appreciate if you can please convey my feelings on the subject to our colleagues in IESM?
Sub: Sukna Land Case C of I and its impact
The AFT has ruled that the Court of Inquiry held to inquire into the Sukna case be reopened to allow Gen. Avadesh Prakash to cross-examine the witnesses who deposed in the inquiry. This means that entire findings,conclusions and recommendations of the C of I could be turned 180 degrees around.
The AFT ruling is based on Rule 180 under the Army (and also Air force and Navy Acts) which lays down that ( The rule is so well known to us that I can still reproduce it almost verbatim 24 years after my retirement!) "when the Court, after examining a witness, is of the opinion that an individual is likely to be blamed or his reputation is likely to be affected, the entire proceedings of the C of I are read out to him. He is asked to be present during the entire later part of the proceedings of the Cof I and to make any statement in his defence and cross-examine any of the witnesses he likes or produce more witnesses on his behalf or more evidence in his favour." Since this procedural lapse took place in the Cof I which held Lt.Gen. Prakash to be blamed, the AFT ruled the way it has and there was no other way it could have ruled. Even the erstwhile 'Pilot Officer' or Second Lt. would know this rule back to front!
All of us have done scores of Cof Is in their careers and Rule 180 is like one of the 'Commandments' of the Bible on a Cof I. How can this fundamental principle be ignored by the Cof I, presided over by an officer of the Rank of Lt.Gen and other officers of the rank of Brigadiers who constituted the Court? And what about the staff officers scrutinising the completed proceedings of the Cof I at the Unit and Command/Corps Hq level and Army Hq? How could such a long line of officers with many years of service overlook this simple procedural lapse? This may lead to the conclusion that the Findings, Conclusions and Recommendations of the Cof I were predetermined.
Irrespective of how the AFT Ruling affects Lt. Gen. Prakash, the impact of this on other areas will be:
1.At least one thing for the services to rejoice about is that AFT has proved itself to be capable in the first big case it has handled. and therefore can be trusted to hand out justice.
2. Make all the serving and retired personnel not only of the Army but also those of the other arms of the defence forces, hold their head in shame!
3.This dirty linen is being washed in public (in the Media). As it is, the Armed Forces seem to have lost their earlier glory and this very slip is sure to make them a laughing stock in the eyes of the general public.
4. The serving officers, especially the junior ones, will loose faith in the justice dispensation of the defence forces, leading to a lowering of the morale. They will think if this can happen to an officer of the rank of Lt.Gen., what justice can lower rank officers can expect from the organisation?
5. ... edited .... .
I am really saddened at this episode.
Regards,
Shashank Bendre
Wg. Cdr. (Retd)
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From: Shashank Bendre bendresr@gmail.com
Sent: 23 February 2010 14:07
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
Cc: DELETED
Subject: Sukna Case COI and AFT Ruling:Disgrace for Armed Forces
Sir,
I will appreciate if you can please convey my feelings on the subject to our colleagues in IESM?
Sub: Sukna Land Case C of I and its impact
The AFT has ruled that the Court of Inquiry held to inquire into the Sukna case be reopened to allow Gen. Avadesh Prakash to cross-examine the witnesses who deposed in the inquiry. This means that entire findings,conclusions and recommendations of the C of I could be turned 180 degrees around.
The AFT ruling is based on Rule 180 under the Army (and also Air force and Navy Acts) which lays down that ( The rule is so well known to us that I can still reproduce it almost verbatim 24 years after my retirement!) "when the Court, after examining a witness, is of the opinion that an individual is likely to be blamed or his reputation is likely to be affected, the entire proceedings of the C of I are read out to him. He is asked to be present during the entire later part of the proceedings of the Cof I and to make any statement in his defence and cross-examine any of the witnesses he likes or produce more witnesses on his behalf or more evidence in his favour." Since this procedural lapse took place in the Cof I which held Lt.Gen. Prakash to be blamed, the AFT ruled the way it has and there was no other way it could have ruled. Even the erstwhile 'Pilot Officer' or Second Lt. would know this rule back to front!
All of us have done scores of Cof Is in their careers and Rule 180 is like one of the 'Commandments' of the Bible on a Cof I. How can this fundamental principle be ignored by the Cof I, presided over by an officer of the Rank of Lt.Gen and other officers of the rank of Brigadiers who constituted the Court? And what about the staff officers scrutinising the completed proceedings of the Cof I at the Unit and Command/Corps Hq level and Army Hq? How could such a long line of officers with many years of service overlook this simple procedural lapse? This may lead to the conclusion that the Findings, Conclusions and Recommendations of the Cof I were predetermined.
Irrespective of how the AFT Ruling affects Lt. Gen. Prakash, the impact of this on other areas will be:
1.At least one thing for the services to rejoice about is that AFT has proved itself to be capable in the first big case it has handled. and therefore can be trusted to hand out justice.
2. Make all the serving and retired personnel not only of the Army but also those of the other arms of the defence forces, hold their head in shame!
3.This dirty linen is being washed in public (in the Media). As it is, the Armed Forces seem to have lost their earlier glory and this very slip is sure to make them a laughing stock in the eyes of the general public.
4. The serving officers, especially the junior ones, will loose faith in the justice dispensation of the defence forces, leading to a lowering of the morale. They will think if this can happen to an officer of the rank of Lt.Gen., what justice can lower rank officers can expect from the organisation?
5. ... edited .... .
I am really saddened at this episode.
Regards,
Shashank Bendre
Wg. Cdr. (Retd)
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New Members by Cdr Pathak at Pune
From: Ravindra Pathak raviwarsha@gmail.com
Sent: 24 February 2010 12:15
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen; CK Sharma
Subject: IESM Donation
Dear Sir
Today i have entered online details of donation by following
Col Dipak Karnik 3000/-
Lt Col R K Sinha 1000/-
The HDFC Receipt is enclosed.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
Sent: 24 February 2010 12:15
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen; CK Sharma
Subject: IESM Donation
Dear Sir
Today i have entered online details of donation by following
Col Dipak Karnik 3000/-
Lt Col R K Sinha 1000/-
The HDFC Receipt is enclosed.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
Monday, February 22, 2010
Signing of Memo in Blood by Cdr V Vaidyanathan IN (Retd)
Cdr V Vaidyanathan to Ravindra, Core, ajinathdupade, akmookerjee, bskarpe, dwivedirn, gurindersinghc., krishna.shewale, maharia.yeshpal, patwardhanav, shindeadventure, umabha97, vikramnainapat., A, Air, Air, Air, Ajit, Apte, Arun, Aruna, Ashok, Ashok, Atul, B, Bahal
show details Feb 20 (2 days ago)
Namaskarams.
I have been out of active participation in the IESM for almost a month. I have fully recovered from my ailment.I am catching up with the planned activities of IESM. I do have some doubts and hence this mail.
I am not very clear as to what the plans for signing of the memorandum in blood on 14 march? Is it going to be done centrally at Delhi? Is the memorandum going to be submitted on the same day to the President and PM? Are the State conveners expected to get the signatures from ESM and forward it to IESM Hq ?.
I Want to put the following points for the Governing body's Consideration.
Taking out 2 cc of blood (as Done by Ravi Pathak) for signing the memorandum may not be advisable on the following counts.
(a) Large quantity of blood will be wasted.
(b) The signing by ESM Can not be done under the glare of Media.(Media coverage of the activity is very vital for our
cause.)
Proposal for consideration
Instead of signing we may think of putting a blood mark next to the signature of the ESM.The blood Mark, of the Left
hand index finger of the ESM by piercing the left hand index finger using a sterilized needle.
This will consume less time and can be done easily under the glare of the media with minimum wastage of valuble
blood.
Let us organise IESM rally all over India with the help of State and district Convenors on a particular day with Maximum
attendance. Where possible members of Governing body may visit the various district / state venues and address the
gathering.
The signed memorandum from the district / States may then be taken across to Delhi and handed over to The President
and the PM.
For organising such a rally the core group members will need to be present in their place and hence the rally may be organised
giving a minimum of one week gap between the core Gp meeting and the rally.
Regards
Vaithy
Cdr V Vaidyanathan IN (Retd)
629 AD Street,KK Nagar
Trichy 620 021
Phone 0431 2351963
Mobile +91 94431 51088
show details Feb 20 (2 days ago)
Namaskarams.
I have been out of active participation in the IESM for almost a month. I have fully recovered from my ailment.I am catching up with the planned activities of IESM. I do have some doubts and hence this mail.
I am not very clear as to what the plans for signing of the memorandum in blood on 14 march? Is it going to be done centrally at Delhi? Is the memorandum going to be submitted on the same day to the President and PM? Are the State conveners expected to get the signatures from ESM and forward it to IESM Hq ?.
I Want to put the following points for the Governing body's Consideration.
Taking out 2 cc of blood (as Done by Ravi Pathak) for signing the memorandum may not be advisable on the following counts.
(a) Large quantity of blood will be wasted.
(b) The signing by ESM Can not be done under the glare of Media.(Media coverage of the activity is very vital for our
cause.)
Proposal for consideration
Instead of signing we may think of putting a blood mark next to the signature of the ESM.The blood Mark, of the Left
hand index finger of the ESM by piercing the left hand index finger using a sterilized needle.
This will consume less time and can be done easily under the glare of the media with minimum wastage of valuble
blood.
Let us organise IESM rally all over India with the help of State and district Convenors on a particular day with Maximum
attendance. Where possible members of Governing body may visit the various district / state venues and address the
gathering.
The signed memorandum from the district / States may then be taken across to Delhi and handed over to The President
and the PM.
For organising such a rally the core group members will need to be present in their place and hence the rally may be organised
giving a minimum of one week gap between the core Gp meeting and the rally.
Regards
Vaithy
Cdr V Vaidyanathan IN (Retd)
629 AD Street,KK Nagar
Trichy 620 021
Phone 0431 2351963
Mobile +91 94431 51088
New members by Cdr Pathak Pune
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
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From: Ravindra Pathak raviwarsha@gmail.com
Sent: 19 February 2010 07:01
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen; subgupta@airtelmail.com
Subject: IESM Membership
Dear Sir
I have registered the following online today.
Maj Gupta Subhash
I am enclosing membership form and HDFC receipt received from Maj Subhash Kapoor for the record.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
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From: Ravindra Pathak raviwarsha@gmail.com
Sent: 19 February 2010 16:23
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen; Lt Col R K Gupta
Subject: IESM Membership
Dear Sir
I have registered the following online today with the kind help of Lt Col R K Gupta. His contribution of registering over 50 members online is appreciated.
1SmtDesai Laxmibai R00
2SmtKhegde Hausabai S00
3SmtJadhav Kashibai S00
4SmtKhegde Nanubai G00
5SmtKumbhar Shewanta S00
6SmtZore Gangubai S00
7SmtBhopale Shantabai K00
8SmtChavan Malutai S00
8SmtSutar Vimal S00
9SmtHilge Saraswati S00
10SmtRane Shobha B00
11SmtPatil Yashoda R00
12SmtDesai Indutai P00
13SmtSarang Archana00
14SmtShinde Aakkatai H00
15SmtPowar Shevanta R00
16SmtKalamkar Shalubai G00
17NkDesai N M1010
18SepMengane P M100
19HavDesai M M100
20HavPande D K100
The HDFC receipt is enclosed.
Application forms will follow.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
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From: lokesh batra
Sent: 21 February 2010 14:27
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Hindu : In Bihar, death for RTI activist who knew too much
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article110491.ece
The Hindu
PATNA, February 21, 2010
In Bihar, death for RTI activist who knew too much
Shoumojit Banerjee
When the government passed the Right to Information Act (RTI) in 2005, it may well have added a statutory warning: exercising this right may be extremely injurious to health.
Shashidhar Mishra of Begusarai, who was murdered by unknown assailants last Sunday, is the second RTI activist to be killed in a month for perhaps knowing too much.
Attacks on RTI activists have emerged as a disturbing trend of late, especially in light of the murder of noted Pune RTI activ
...
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
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From: Ravindra Pathak raviwarsha@gmail.com
Sent: 19 February 2010 07:01
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen; subgupta@airtelmail.com
Subject: IESM Membership
Dear Sir
I have registered the following online today.
Maj Gupta Subhash
I am enclosing membership form and HDFC receipt received from Maj Subhash Kapoor for the record.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
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From: Ravindra Pathak raviwarsha@gmail.com
Sent: 19 February 2010 16:23
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen; Lt Col R K Gupta
Subject: IESM Membership
Dear Sir
I have registered the following online today with the kind help of Lt Col R K Gupta. His contribution of registering over 50 members online is appreciated.
1SmtDesai Laxmibai R00
2SmtKhegde Hausabai S00
3SmtJadhav Kashibai S00
4SmtKhegde Nanubai G00
5SmtKumbhar Shewanta S00
6SmtZore Gangubai S00
7SmtBhopale Shantabai K00
8SmtChavan Malutai S00
8SmtSutar Vimal S00
9SmtHilge Saraswati S00
10SmtRane Shobha B00
11SmtPatil Yashoda R00
12SmtDesai Indutai P00
13SmtSarang Archana00
14SmtShinde Aakkatai H00
15SmtPowar Shevanta R00
16SmtKalamkar Shalubai G00
17NkDesai N M1010
18SepMengane P M100
19HavDesai M M100
20HavPande D K100
The HDFC receipt is enclosed.
Application forms will follow.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
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From: lokesh batra
Sent: 21 February 2010 14:27
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Hindu : In Bihar, death for RTI activist who knew too much
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article110491.ece
The Hindu
PATNA, February 21, 2010
In Bihar, death for RTI activist who knew too much
Shoumojit Banerjee
When the government passed the Right to Information Act (RTI) in 2005, it may well have added a statutory warning: exercising this right may be extremely injurious to health.
Shashidhar Mishra of Begusarai, who was murdered by unknown assailants last Sunday, is the second RTI activist to be killed in a month for perhaps knowing too much.
Attacks on RTI activists have emerged as a disturbing trend of late, especially in light of the murder of noted Pune RTI activ
...
Thanks to lt Col BM Thapa for the Donation of Rs. 5000 again
From: Brij Mohan Thapa
Date: 19 Feb 2010 06:54
Subject: Excellent contribution of Col S S Rajan;Tiger from the South and Maj Gen Satbir Singh Tiger from the North
To: Col S S Rajan Dai
Dear Col Rajan Dai,
Indeed we all IESM family members owe deep gratitude to you and Gen Satbir Singh for your most dedicated day and night efforts for up keeping the flag of IESM as high as possible. You both are great asset, invaluable and irreplaceable for the organisation who has brought high name and fame for the IESM
Your membership and donation drive has been great successful and fruitful in all over India for IESM .
I am also sending second installments of donation of Rs 5000.00 through Dehradun HDFC bank since temporarily I am stationed at Singapore.
Fondest regards.
Brij
Date: 19 Feb 2010 06:54
Subject: Excellent contribution of Col S S Rajan;Tiger from the South and Maj Gen Satbir Singh Tiger from the North
To: Col S S Rajan Dai
Dear Col Rajan Dai,
Indeed we all IESM family members owe deep gratitude to you and Gen Satbir Singh for your most dedicated day and night efforts for up keeping the flag of IESM as high as possible. You both are great asset, invaluable and irreplaceable for the organisation who has brought high name and fame for the IESM
Your membership and donation drive has been great successful and fruitful in all over India for IESM .
I am also sending second installments of donation of Rs 5000.00 through Dehradun HDFC bank since temporarily I am stationed at Singapore.
Fondest regards.
Brij
Col Shiv Raichand,..Brig Amitava Sarker..New members
From: satbir singh satbirsm@yahoo.com
Subject:
To: IESM_GovBody@yahoogroups.com
Cc: shivraichand@gmail.com, caesarsarker@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 3:40 PM
Dear Friends
We thank the following veterans for the contributions to the IESM A/C:-
(a) IC- 24189F Col Shiv Raichand, - Rs 20,000/-
A-248, Defence Colony
New Delhi -110024
Tele No : 09810121343
Email : shivraichand@gmail.com
(b) IC-23667N Brig Amitava Sarker - Rs 1500/-
4-158/1 Saipuri, Off 5th
Avenue, PO Sainikpuri
Secunderabad -500094
Tele No : 09848780913
Email : caesarsarker@gmail.com
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Subject:
To: IESM_GovBody@yahoogroups.com
Cc: shivraichand@gmail.com, caesarsarker@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 3:40 PM
Dear Friends
We thank the following veterans for the contributions to the IESM A/C:-
(a) IC- 24189F Col Shiv Raichand, - Rs 20,000/-
A-248, Defence Colony
New Delhi -110024
Tele No : 09810121343
Email : shivraichand@gmail.com
(b) IC-23667N Brig Amitava Sarker - Rs 1500/-
4-158/1 Saipuri, Off 5th
Avenue, PO Sainikpuri
Secunderabad -500094
Tele No : 09848780913
Email : caesarsarker@gmail.com
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
New Members ..Lt Col LD Shiggaon and Cdr Joseph Sukumaran
From: Colonelrajan Srinivas colonelrajan44@gmail.com
Sent: 21 February 2010 18:17
To: CoreGpIESM
Cc: Cdr Sharan S Ahuja; Wg Cdr CK Sharma; Brig C.S.KAMBOJ; Maj Gen Satbir Singh SM; Lt Col LD Shiggaon; Cdr J Sukumar
Subject: Re: Donations of Rs.1000 to IESM
Respected Sirs,
Jai Hind.
On Saturday, 20 Feb 2010, Veterans Lt Col LD Shiggaon and Cdr Joseph Sukumaran, both from Bangalore, have been kind to donate Rs. 1000 each to IESM, by way of cheques, which are being deposited in the local HDFC Bank for crediting the amount to IESM account held with HDFC Bank at Gurgaon.
Regards,
Col Rajan
Sent: 21 February 2010 18:17
To: CoreGpIESM
Cc: Cdr Sharan S Ahuja; Wg Cdr CK Sharma; Brig C.S.KAMBOJ; Maj Gen Satbir Singh SM; Lt Col LD Shiggaon; Cdr J Sukumar
Subject: Re: Donations of Rs.1000 to IESM
Respected Sirs,
Jai Hind.
On Saturday, 20 Feb 2010, Veterans Lt Col LD Shiggaon and Cdr Joseph Sukumaran, both from Bangalore, have been kind to donate Rs. 1000 each to IESM, by way of cheques, which are being deposited in the local HDFC Bank for crediting the amount to IESM account held with HDFC Bank at Gurgaon.
Regards,
Col Rajan
OROP : Road Block. by Cdr Prem batra
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From: prem parkash batra
Date: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: FW: OROP : Road Block.
To: rpchaturvedi@gmail.com
Col Rakesh P Chaturvedi
Dear Sir,
I think the approach through Constituion prima-facie perhaps is the most likely to deliver the results. It goes to the Constitution Bench. Then the unwritten practice of the Courts, the Legislative and the Executive of denial cannot be awept under the table in the name of security. It cannot be used both ways to the disadvantage of the Servicemen including the Ex-Servicemen.
The basic question is if we are to be equated with the Civilians then why the Fundamental Rights are abridged! That is the fundamental question. Then we should have the right to strike work, to go slow and not go to front and not to accept postings to dangerous places as the IAS do [like not going to Maoist Areas. And get special concessions for going to A&S Islands and NE] and all other things they do.
If this approach is agreed to in general then one has to find a constituional expert who is renowned and willing to challenge the Constituion. Then we have to collect funds and provide him all the references and the material he needs. In USA many have challenged these hypotesis and won.
Please do circulate wiidely to elicit cooperation for this course of action. I would like to think this keeps other options open and which can be pursued concurrently.
With Best Regards,
Cdr Prem P Batra IN Retd.
From: prem parkash batra
Date: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: FW: OROP : Road Block.
To: rpchaturvedi@gmail.com
Col Rakesh P Chaturvedi
Dear Sir,
I think the approach through Constituion prima-facie perhaps is the most likely to deliver the results. It goes to the Constitution Bench. Then the unwritten practice of the Courts, the Legislative and the Executive of denial cannot be awept under the table in the name of security. It cannot be used both ways to the disadvantage of the Servicemen including the Ex-Servicemen.
The basic question is if we are to be equated with the Civilians then why the Fundamental Rights are abridged! That is the fundamental question. Then we should have the right to strike work, to go slow and not go to front and not to accept postings to dangerous places as the IAS do [like not going to Maoist Areas. And get special concessions for going to A&S Islands and NE] and all other things they do.
If this approach is agreed to in general then one has to find a constituional expert who is renowned and willing to challenge the Constituion. Then we have to collect funds and provide him all the references and the material he needs. In USA many have challenged these hypotesis and won.
Please do circulate wiidely to elicit cooperation for this course of action. I would like to think this keeps other options open and which can be pursued concurrently.
With Best Regards,
Cdr Prem P Batra IN Retd.
My salute to you
Respected Veteran Major Asthana,
Jai Hind & my salute to you.
Indeed kind of you to have called me from the US.
I spoke to Maj Gen PK Renjen, Treasurer IESM, and he confirmed what you told me that IESM is presently NOT in a position to receive cheques in DOLLARS. That being so, you may please consider asking one of your friends or relatives to send us a cheque and you may reimburse the amount to him.
Regards,
Col Rajan
Bangalore, 9449043770
Jai Hind & my salute to you.
Indeed kind of you to have called me from the US.
I spoke to Maj Gen PK Renjen, Treasurer IESM, and he confirmed what you told me that IESM is presently NOT in a position to receive cheques in DOLLARS. That being so, you may please consider asking one of your friends or relatives to send us a cheque and you may reimburse the amount to him.
Regards,
Col Rajan
Bangalore, 9449043770
Friday, February 19, 2010
Dildar Nagar Rally - Feedback summary and afterthoughts
Dear and Respected Sir,
On behalf of all ESM of Dildar Nagar area, I thank you for visiting the area and hearing the local problems and challenges faced by the ESM of the area and addressing the rally organized by them. The ESM and local leaders of Gazipur, Jamanian, Sahuka, Buxar, Dildar Nagar Gahamar, Bhadora and Baliyan and other nearby villages were deeply touched by your personal military family background. They were also very hopeful about the points they raised during meeting other than OROP. To warm up the rally and to rev up the audience it was decided that the local speakers speak first before they get the opportunity to hear from you. This email aims at summarizing the points of those local speakers as well.
I was with the local ESM for an approximate period of one week and this gave me a chance to meet several ESM personally and to have small, local meetings and get-togethers with them. Thus I have to humbly say that these interactions enables me to understand their lives, their problems and the kind of help, support and actions they are looking for from the IESM HQ in Delhi. The gathering would have been much larger but due to the severe weather conditions and late running trains the ESM strength was not as much as expected but it was still respectable.
Most of the senior old ESM firmly believed that your visit will sort their problems and grievances once and for all. Many of them had not even seen a general in their entire service duration and they were thrilled and excited to hear from you.
Sir, with respect and humility, I will now try and voice the opinions of the thousands of local ESM from that region. The ESM community there believes that besides the primary goal of OROP, there are certainly many other issues relating to ESM welfare that they think should be taken up by IESM HQ. I am in full agreement with your view on OROP that it is a long term fight, in the meantime there are certain regional and local points that I would like to bring to your kind attention:
(a) How can IESM HQ help put pressure on local authorities and agencies to help ESM relating to the very basic services Like ECHS, CSD Canteen, District Sainik Board , Pension Paying banks, and other welfare organizations. We must ALSO think in terms of 'micro' issues and their resolutions rather than only focusing on the otherwise national OROP issue.
(b) The Record Offices and other bodies are not helping the needy old pensioners and widows as well. Bribes and commissions are being extorted for simple things like monthly pension and arrears.
(c) Depending on the increasing ESM strength, opening of new institutes and organizations for ESM welfare like Central Schools, CSD and ECHS.
(d) Organizing recruitment rally in the area for the wards of ESM.
Outputs of the Dildar Nagar rally:
(a) New leaders have been Identified and they have already started working for the membership drive and medal deposition.
(b) Large number of ESM joined IESM and are emotionally charged and more medals will be brought on 14th Mar from that area. I will personally remain in touch with the new local leaders.
(c) Awareness about IESM, its activities and its past successes.
On a final note, the memorandum and the points given to me in writing by the local ESM are with me which I will send across to you via courier as soon as I am able to.
Once again I personally thank you for visiting Dildar Nagar and the near by areas. It was a pleasure to host you there.
Thank you sir.
Yours truly,
Kameshwar
PS: Please find the Press Note attached with this email.
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Kameshwar Pandey
Sub/Maj Hony. Lt. (Veteran)
230, Pocket-1,
DDA SFS Flats, Sector-1,
Dwarka, New Delhi - 110 075
Cell : +91-9811059825
Home: +91-11-3296 6701
email: pandeykameshwar@gmail.com
Thanks to Air Vice Marshal. LS Vaidyanathan for Donation of Rs 10000
From: Air Vice Marshal. Vaidyanathan
Date: 18 Feb 2010 21:28
Subject: Donation and membership IESM
To: satbirsm@yahoo.com, prenjen@hotmail.com, colonelrajan44@gmail.com
Dear General,
Satsriakal
It is with a very happy feeling that I deposited cash Rs 10500/= (Rs Ten thousand five hundred only) in the HDFC Bank Branch at ELECHENAHALLI KONANKUNTE Cross,Kanakapura Road Bangalore 560062. The deposit was made around 10;10AM today 19 Feb 2010. The lady at the counter confirmed to me within 2 minutes that the amount has been credited in your account
Rs 10000/= is for donation and Rs 500/= for Membership. I will fill the details needed if you please send me an E- mail . Just check your account and confirm that the amount has indeed been credited in A/C 0616 200000 1330
You can forward the receipt for Rs 10000/= Donation along with details of the IT Exemption letter to my address given below
Keep up your Good work
Regards
AVM LS Vaidyanathan, B M 02 TempleTrees Apartment, Kanakapura Road
Bangalore 560078
Tel 080-26664634 and Mobile 99452 63847
Date: 18 Feb 2010 21:28
Subject: Donation and membership IESM
To: satbirsm@yahoo.com, prenjen@hotmail.com, colonelrajan44@gmail.com
Dear General,
Satsriakal
It is with a very happy feeling that I deposited cash Rs 10500/= (Rs Ten thousand five hundred only) in the HDFC Bank Branch at ELECHENAHALLI KONANKUNTE Cross,Kanakapura Road Bangalore 560062. The deposit was made around 10;10AM today 19 Feb 2010. The lady at the counter confirmed to me within 2 minutes that the amount has been credited in your account
Rs 10000/= is for donation and Rs 500/= for Membership. I will fill the details needed if you please send me an E- mail . Just check your account and confirm that the amount has indeed been credited in A/C 0616 200000 1330
You can forward the receipt for Rs 10000/= Donation along with details of the IT Exemption letter to my address given below
Keep up your Good work
Regards
AVM LS Vaidyanathan, B M 02 TempleTrees Apartment, Kanakapura Road
Bangalore 560078
Tel 080-26664634 and Mobile 99452 63847
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Thanks to Brig Sukhdev Singh for the Doantion of Rs. 15000
Respected Veteran Brig Sukhdev Singh,
Jai Hind
Please accept our Greetings & Best Wishes on the occasion of your Marriage Anniversary and we wish you both MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY.
I am indeed touched by your prompt response to my Appeal and the very kind sentiments expressed in your email. The Ex-Servicemen fraternity is thankful & grateful to you for your magnanimity in contributing Rs.15, 000 to the IESM for funding its events & activities.
Regards,
Col Rajan
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On 17 February 2010 18:22, Sukhdev Singh wrote:
My dear Colonel Rajan,
I have been observing ur dedication to the IESM for some time,thru IESM Blog.
U r doing a commendable job in motivating Veterans from ur part of the country in addition to ur unstinted support to the Governing Body, at Delhi.
As far as Satbir is concerned,we r coursemates & have known each other for ages.His dynamism has been known since r cadet days.
I am in full agreement with u regarding finances for IESM.Earlier I had written to Satbir stating that v need finacial cells in various parts of the country in order to generate adequate funds to maintain momentum,because mere contributions of membership fees will not suffice.
I cannot contribute physically,however I have decided to put in part time effort thru self,reatives,neighbours,fellow golfers & society at large,to generate funds for IESM.
To day is my wedding anniversary,what better day to commence a noble deed of helping a noble cause which the IESM has adopted.Today, I shall deposit a cheque FOR RS 15000,in IESM HDFC account mentioned in ur appeal.
There after I shall appeal to my children,my family& friends to contribute for a just cause which IESM is persuing.
I shall approach neighbours,fellow golfers,businessmen (known & unknown),for donations.
I have an ambitious target of generating 1 lac in calender year 2010.
After todays contribution I have rs 85000 to b collected in 10 months ie 8500 per month.Let us see how much I manage.
With ur permission I shall b making about 200 copies of ur appeal ,adding an appeal from my side & putting it into letter boxes in the neighbourhood/distrbuting personally at golf courses,clubs etc.I hope I have ur approval.
I shall b forwarding ur appeal to my contact list via email.
The task I have undertaken is far easier than yours.Wish me luck & God willing I will achieve my target sooner than later.
Keep up the good work.We will succeed ultimately because IESM has a just cause,a superb leader & noble dedicated souls like u,satbir,kamboj & all others in the governing body.
All the very best, SUKHDEV
Jai Hind
Please accept our Greetings & Best Wishes on the occasion of your Marriage Anniversary and we wish you both MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY.
I am indeed touched by your prompt response to my Appeal and the very kind sentiments expressed in your email. The Ex-Servicemen fraternity is thankful & grateful to you for your magnanimity in contributing Rs.15, 000 to the IESM for funding its events & activities.
Regards,
Col Rajan
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On 17 February 2010 18:22, Sukhdev Singh
My dear Colonel Rajan,
I have been observing ur dedication to the IESM for some time,thru IESM Blog.
U r doing a commendable job in motivating Veterans from ur part of the country in addition to ur unstinted support to the Governing Body, at Delhi.
As far as Satbir is concerned,we r coursemates & have known each other for ages.His dynamism has been known since r cadet days.
I am in full agreement with u regarding finances for IESM.Earlier I had written to Satbir stating that v need finacial cells in various parts of the country in order to generate adequate funds to maintain momentum,because mere contributions of membership fees will not suffice.
I cannot contribute physically,however I have decided to put in part time effort thru self,reatives,neighbours,fellow golfers & society at large,to generate funds for IESM.
To day is my wedding anniversary,what better day to commence a noble deed of helping a noble cause which the IESM has adopted.Today, I shall deposit a cheque FOR RS 15000,in IESM HDFC account mentioned in ur appeal.
There after I shall appeal to my children,my family& friends to contribute for a just cause which IESM is persuing.
I shall approach neighbours,fellow golfers,businessmen (known & unknown),for donations.
I have an ambitious target of generating 1 lac in calender year 2010.
After todays contribution I have rs 85000 to b collected in 10 months ie 8500 per month.Let us see how much I manage.
With ur permission I shall b making about 200 copies of ur appeal ,adding an appeal from my side & putting it into letter boxes in the neighbourhood/distrbuting personally at golf courses,clubs etc.I hope I have ur approval.
I shall b forwarding ur appeal to my contact list via email.
The task I have undertaken is far easier than yours.Wish me luck & God willing I will achieve my target sooner than later.
Keep up the good work.We will succeed ultimately because IESM has a just cause,a superb leader & noble dedicated souls like u,satbir,kamboj & all others in the governing body.
All the very best, SUKHDEV
An Appeal for Donations
Dear All
This is an appeal to all members from Col S S Rajan .Modified application form is attached.Pls use the same when sending donations.
You may also send the Donation cheque to me at following address
Cdr R W Pathak 1 Surashri,1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar Pune 411016.
Contact for more details 9822329340
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
Kindly do read each word of the appeal and request appended below, from Col SS Rajan, Member IESM Governing Body.
Please do not rely on your personal capacity to donate funds for the noble cause “Justice for Defence Services”, but do request your close relatives and friends also to donate.
A large number of veterans are very well to do. God has been kind to you – it is time for you to show your big heart to all ESM be kind to them.
I am sure many of you are also capable of donating large sums every month to IESM.
IESM is a registered NGO.
Donations to IESM are exempt from Income Tax under the Provisions of Sec 80 G of the Income Tax Act. (Authority: Exemption accorded by Commissioner of Income Tax, Faridabad, Haryana, vide letter No.CIT/FBD/Tech/08-09/80 G/113/31/4533 dated 25 Aug 2009 and valid till 31 March 2012).
I promise to Chairman IESM to collect between Rs 10,000 to Rs 15,000 as donations from my close relatives and friends.
A large number of members of “Report My Signal” are still not member of IESM. I appeal to you all to come forward and become members of IESM.
The necessary membership form and instructions are attached. Please become member and donate generously to IESM.
The contribution rate for becoming member of IESM is –
1. Officers - Rs 500 (Rs 100 fee, Rs 400 donations – min)
2. JCOs and equivalents - Rs 200 (Rs 40 fee, Rs 160 donations – min)
3. OR - Rs 100 (Rs 20 fee, Rs 80 donations – min)
Please give wide publicity to the contents of this email among your service friends.
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj
(Temporarily at Visakhapatnam – 0891 – 2754935)
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Colonelrajan Srinivas wrote:
Respected Veterans,
Jai Hind.
IESM is not an organization or an Association which has come about or created or formed under ordinary circumstances. It has come about as a result of popular upsurge on account of gross injustice to the personnel of the Defence Services and Ex-Servicemen, on announcement of the 6th Central Pay Commission, in March 2008.
The first All India Military Veterans Meet was held at NOIDA on 13 Aug 2008. And it was in that meeting that Veterans starting with Lt Gen Raj Kadyan and other founder members of the IESM were introduced and the august gathering of over 100 Veterans were requested to raise their hands to ratify their appointment as Members of the Core Committee of IESM; and thus was born IESM. That first All India Military Veterans Meet at NOIDA on 13 Aug 2008 was a big success on account of the untiring efforts by all the Veteran Officers comprising the present IESM Governing Body. My salute to them.
An Appeal and A Request.
Maj Gen PK Renjen, the Treasurer of IESM brought out recently, during the IESM Governing Body Meet on 31 Jan 2010, that the financial position of IESM is in tremendous distress; so much so, that, we hardly have money to fund our events & activities. For all those who have not known Maj Gen PK Renjen, I would like to say that Maj Gen PK Renjen, (ex-GOC 3 Mtn Div), is an epitome of Honesty, Integrity & Humility. I salute him for his dedication & commitment to the cause. As Treasurer of IESM he has done a remarkable job; and, I hold him in great esteem & regard.
As per rules, whatever money the IESM received by way of Membership Fees, has been invested as “Fixed Deposit’ in the Bank; and, it is only the “Interest Amount” that accrues out of the ‘Fixed Deposit’ that can be utilized for funding various events & activities of IESM, viz. printing of posters, organizing Ex-Servicemen Rallies, etc. Needless to say that the amount that accrues as interest is very small and is NOT adequate to fund IESM events & activities. Though no doubt, a few of our Veterans* have been very kind & gracious to donate money to IESM for funding IESM events & activities; not much is left to carry on our Movement. [* When we talk of Donations, the first name that comes to my mind is that of Veteran Cdr KK Punchhi, who residing in Canada, donated Rs. 50,000; and, the second one is, Veteran Gp Capt Vidhyadhar, residing in Australia, donated Rs. 22,500. And of course, there are quite a few Veterans who have donated amounts ranging from Rs. 5,000 to Rs. 10,000. I must say, indeed kind & gracious of them].
Money is required to sustain any Movement and IESM is no exception. WE must realize that Corporate Houses are not inclined to donate money to IESM as they have nothing to gain. Money to sustain IESM will have to perforce come from Veterans themselves, especially the Retired Officers. I say, WE OWE IT TO OUR MEN, whom we had the privilege to command while in service. And, I for one believe that, ‘An Officer’s responsibility towards his men does NOT end with his retirement; it is a lifelong commitment’.
The Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement, is a crusade, committed to fight for the rights of Ex-Servicemen and our foremost demand is that Govt. grant MILITARY PENSION by way of One Rank, One Pension.
IESM faces a real danger of Ex-Servicemen losing faith in the Movement, in case WE do not sustain a visible proactive Movement calibrated to achieve ‘One Rank, One Pension’ by the end of 2010.
The next big event that is being planned is an Ex-Servicemen Rally at Jantar Mantar, Delhi, on Sunday, 14 March 2010, where at, a Memorandum addressed to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of India shall be signed in Blood. Ex-Servicemen Rallies are also being planned, all over the Country, on Sunday, 14 March 2010, where too, the Memorandum addressed to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of India shall be signed in Blood. Please scroll down to read the DRAFT Memorandum addressed to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of India.
In the light of above, I request and appeal to you Sirs, to PLEASE DONATE A SUM OF RS. 1000 TO THE IESM, in order to carry our Movement forward and to fund our events & activities. Veterans desirous of donating larger amounts are most welcome.
IESM is a registered body, bearing Registration No. DR/GGN/179 (2008-09); and, Donations to IESM are exempt from Income Tax under the Provisions of Sec 80 G of the Income Tax Act. (Authority: Exemption accorded by Commissioner of Income Tax, Faridabad, Haryana, vide letter No.CIT/FBD/Tech/08-09/80 G/113/31/4533 dated 25 Aug 2009 and valid till 31 March 2012).
Donations by way of Cheques (on par) or Demand Drafts drawn in favour of Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement, HDFC Bank Account No.06162000001330 may please be sent to Maj Gen Satbir Singh, SM, at the address given below, under intimation to the undersigned, Colonel SS Rajan and to Maj Gen PK Renjen
Maj Gen Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman IESM
543, Sector23, Gurgaon – 122 017, Haryana
Tel No. 0124 – 2461416 / 4110570
With best regards,
Col Rajan
Bangalore, 9448024377 / 9449043770
Membership Made Easy
We have now made it simple to join up! The methodology is mentioned below. Also, please do encourage as many of your friends to join up as is possible!
IESM web site: www.iesm.org
To become member, there are multiple options:
a) Register on-line on the site. Click 'register', then click 'register online' and fill your data. Money to be deposited in your local HDFC branch into IESM account. Account details are given on the site.
b) Also on the site is an application form, if you do not wish to register on-line. Fill the form and send with a cheque or deposit locally in HDFC branch as explained above.
c) Or send filled form by email and deposit money locally.
If you cannot yourself register on line, send your application & chq to the State/ Distt/ City Convenor who is helping us with the membership drive. He will do the needful on your behalf.
Once you have registered on line, please send the completed application form(s) and the bank deposit receipt to us, as proof of deposit, by e mail or by post. If you are unable to send the application form, please send a note, along with the Deposit Receipt, giving your personal and payment details for us to connect the payment to the applicant.
Please note that the bank deposit slip confirms to us that the payment has been made and only thereafter a Membership No can be allotted.
Membership Fees: Officers - Rs 500, JCOs - 200, OR -100, Widows - Nil.
Please also note that the IESM cannot function effectively with only Membership Fee. It needs donations too from members, etc. Members have donated generously - ranging from Rs. 1,000/= to 50,000/=. So, please feel free to donate in addition to your membership fee as per your liking and comfort.
And, encourage ESMs & Civilians to join and contribute. Civilians cannot become members but get registered with us as Supporters. Civilians & some serving personnel are also joining as supporters.
However, a Form and Bank details are also attached, if required. It may also be noted that we do not have the facility to accept payments in foreign currencies. So, payments may only be made in INR.
God Bless the IESM.
BANK DETAILS - IESM
Name of Account: Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
Account No: 06162000001330
Name of Bank: HDFC Bank
Nine Digit MICR Code of Bank: 110240109
IFSC Code (for e transfer): HDFC0000616
Postal Address of Bank:
Palam Vihar Branch, SCO 87, Sector 22, Gurgaon – 122001
You may send a cheque, deposit directly in above account in your local HDFC Branch, or do an e transfer. Please send us the filled membership form (ignore details not readily available with you) by post or by e mail.
Please address your e mails on the above matter to the following e mail IDs;
Maj Gen PK Renjen at prenjen@hotmail.com
Maj Gen Satbir Singh at satbirsm@yahoo.com
Brig CS Kamboj at kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
Cdr SS Ahuja at sharanahuja@hotmail.com
Wg Cdr CK Sharma at seekayess@gmail.com
We also request you to kindly motivate other veterans for their support.
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
This is an appeal to all members from Col S S Rajan .Modified application form is attached.Pls use the same when sending donations.
You may also send the Donation cheque to me at following address
Cdr R W Pathak 1 Surashri,1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar Pune 411016.
Contact for more details 9822329340
Dear Friends,
Jai Hind.
Kindly do read each word of the appeal and request appended below, from Col SS Rajan, Member IESM Governing Body.
Please do not rely on your personal capacity to donate funds for the noble cause “Justice for Defence Services”, but do request your close relatives and friends also to donate.
A large number of veterans are very well to do. God has been kind to you – it is time for you to show your big heart to all ESM be kind to them.
I am sure many of you are also capable of donating large sums every month to IESM.
IESM is a registered NGO.
Donations to IESM are exempt from Income Tax under the Provisions of Sec 80 G of the Income Tax Act. (Authority: Exemption accorded by Commissioner of Income Tax, Faridabad, Haryana, vide letter No.CIT/FBD/Tech/08-09/80 G/113/31/4533 dated 25 Aug 2009 and valid till 31 March 2012).
I promise to Chairman IESM to collect between Rs 10,000 to Rs 15,000 as donations from my close relatives and friends.
A large number of members of “Report My Signal” are still not member of IESM. I appeal to you all to come forward and become members of IESM.
The necessary membership form and instructions are attached. Please become member and donate generously to IESM.
The contribution rate for becoming member of IESM is –
1. Officers - Rs 500 (Rs 100 fee, Rs 400 donations – min)
2. JCOs and equivalents - Rs 200 (Rs 40 fee, Rs 160 donations – min)
3. OR - Rs 100 (Rs 20 fee, Rs 80 donations – min)
Please give wide publicity to the contents of this email among your service friends.
In service of Indian Military Veterans
Chander Kamboj
(Temporarily at Visakhapatnam – 0891 – 2754935)
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Colonelrajan Srinivas
Respected Veterans,
Jai Hind.
IESM is not an organization or an Association which has come about or created or formed under ordinary circumstances. It has come about as a result of popular upsurge on account of gross injustice to the personnel of the Defence Services and Ex-Servicemen, on announcement of the 6th Central Pay Commission, in March 2008.
The first All India Military Veterans Meet was held at NOIDA on 13 Aug 2008. And it was in that meeting that Veterans starting with Lt Gen Raj Kadyan and other founder members of the IESM were introduced and the august gathering of over 100 Veterans were requested to raise their hands to ratify their appointment as Members of the Core Committee of IESM; and thus was born IESM. That first All India Military Veterans Meet at NOIDA on 13 Aug 2008 was a big success on account of the untiring efforts by all the Veteran Officers comprising the present IESM Governing Body. My salute to them.
An Appeal and A Request.
Maj Gen PK Renjen, the Treasurer of IESM brought out recently, during the IESM Governing Body Meet on 31 Jan 2010, that the financial position of IESM is in tremendous distress; so much so, that, we hardly have money to fund our events & activities. For all those who have not known Maj Gen PK Renjen, I would like to say that Maj Gen PK Renjen, (ex-GOC 3 Mtn Div), is an epitome of Honesty, Integrity & Humility. I salute him for his dedication & commitment to the cause. As Treasurer of IESM he has done a remarkable job; and, I hold him in great esteem & regard.
As per rules, whatever money the IESM received by way of Membership Fees, has been invested as “Fixed Deposit’ in the Bank; and, it is only the “Interest Amount” that accrues out of the ‘Fixed Deposit’ that can be utilized for funding various events & activities of IESM, viz. printing of posters, organizing Ex-Servicemen Rallies, etc. Needless to say that the amount that accrues as interest is very small and is NOT adequate to fund IESM events & activities. Though no doubt, a few of our Veterans* have been very kind & gracious to donate money to IESM for funding IESM events & activities; not much is left to carry on our Movement. [* When we talk of Donations, the first name that comes to my mind is that of Veteran Cdr KK Punchhi, who residing in Canada, donated Rs. 50,000; and, the second one is, Veteran Gp Capt Vidhyadhar, residing in Australia, donated Rs. 22,500. And of course, there are quite a few Veterans who have donated amounts ranging from Rs. 5,000 to Rs. 10,000. I must say, indeed kind & gracious of them].
Money is required to sustain any Movement and IESM is no exception. WE must realize that Corporate Houses are not inclined to donate money to IESM as they have nothing to gain. Money to sustain IESM will have to perforce come from Veterans themselves, especially the Retired Officers. I say, WE OWE IT TO OUR MEN, whom we had the privilege to command while in service. And, I for one believe that, ‘An Officer’s responsibility towards his men does NOT end with his retirement; it is a lifelong commitment’.
The Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement, is a crusade, committed to fight for the rights of Ex-Servicemen and our foremost demand is that Govt. grant MILITARY PENSION by way of One Rank, One Pension.
IESM faces a real danger of Ex-Servicemen losing faith in the Movement, in case WE do not sustain a visible proactive Movement calibrated to achieve ‘One Rank, One Pension’ by the end of 2010.
The next big event that is being planned is an Ex-Servicemen Rally at Jantar Mantar, Delhi, on Sunday, 14 March 2010, where at, a Memorandum addressed to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of India shall be signed in Blood. Ex-Servicemen Rallies are also being planned, all over the Country, on Sunday, 14 March 2010, where too, the Memorandum addressed to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of India shall be signed in Blood. Please scroll down to read the DRAFT Memorandum addressed to the Hon’ble Prime Minister of India.
In the light of above, I request and appeal to you Sirs, to PLEASE DONATE A SUM OF RS. 1000 TO THE IESM, in order to carry our Movement forward and to fund our events & activities. Veterans desirous of donating larger amounts are most welcome.
IESM is a registered body, bearing Registration No. DR/GGN/179 (2008-09); and, Donations to IESM are exempt from Income Tax under the Provisions of Sec 80 G of the Income Tax Act. (Authority: Exemption accorded by Commissioner of Income Tax, Faridabad, Haryana, vide letter No.CIT/FBD/Tech/08-09/80 G/113/31/4533 dated 25 Aug 2009 and valid till 31 March 2012).
Donations by way of Cheques (on par) or Demand Drafts drawn in favour of Indian Ex-Servicemen Movement, HDFC Bank Account No.06162000001330 may please be sent to Maj Gen Satbir Singh, SM, at the address given below, under intimation to the undersigned, Colonel SS Rajan
Maj Gen Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman IESM
543, Sector23, Gurgaon – 122 017, Haryana
Tel No. 0124 – 2461416 / 4110570
With best regards,
Col Rajan
Bangalore, 9448024377 / 9449043770
Membership Made Easy
We have now made it simple to join up! The methodology is mentioned below. Also, please do encourage as many of your friends to join up as is possible!
IESM web site: www.iesm.org
To become member, there are multiple options:
a) Register on-line on the site. Click 'register', then click 'register online' and fill your data. Money to be deposited in your local HDFC branch into IESM account. Account details are given on the site.
b) Also on the site is an application form, if you do not wish to register on-line. Fill the form and send with a cheque or deposit locally in HDFC branch as explained above.
c) Or send filled form by email and deposit money locally.
If you cannot yourself register on line, send your application & chq to the State/ Distt/ City Convenor who is helping us with the membership drive. He will do the needful on your behalf.
Once you have registered on line, please send the completed application form(s) and the bank deposit receipt to us, as proof of deposit, by e mail or by post. If you are unable to send the application form, please send a note, along with the Deposit Receipt, giving your personal and payment details for us to connect the payment to the applicant.
Please note that the bank deposit slip confirms to us that the payment has been made and only thereafter a Membership No can be allotted.
Membership Fees: Officers - Rs 500, JCOs - 200, OR -100, Widows - Nil.
Please also note that the IESM cannot function effectively with only Membership Fee. It needs donations too from members, etc. Members have donated generously - ranging from Rs. 1,000/= to 50,000/=. So, please feel free to donate in addition to your membership fee as per your liking and comfort.
And, encourage ESMs & Civilians to join and contribute. Civilians cannot become members but get registered with us as Supporters. Civilians & some serving personnel are also joining as supporters.
However, a Form and Bank details are also attached, if required. It may also be noted that we do not have the facility to accept payments in foreign currencies. So, payments may only be made in INR.
God Bless the IESM.
BANK DETAILS - IESM
Name of Account: Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
Account No: 06162000001330
Name of Bank: HDFC Bank
Nine Digit MICR Code of Bank: 110240109
IFSC Code (for e transfer): HDFC0000616
Postal Address of Bank:
Palam Vihar Branch, SCO 87, Sector 22, Gurgaon – 122001
You may send a cheque, deposit directly in above account in your local HDFC Branch, or do an e transfer. Please send us the filled membership form (ignore details not readily available with you) by post or by e mail.
Please address your e mails on the above matter to the following e mail IDs;
Maj Gen PK Renjen at prenjen@hotmail.com
Maj Gen Satbir Singh at satbirsm@yahoo.com
Brig CS Kamboj at kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
Cdr SS Ahuja at sharanahuja@hotmail.com
Wg Cdr CK Sharma at seekayess@gmail.com
We also request you to kindly motivate other veterans for their support.
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
1 Surashri, 1146 Lakaki Road, Shivajinagar, Pune 411016
Tel 91 20 25655792
Alternate email:raviwarsha@hotmail.com
Military Veterans visit www.iesm.org
Thanks to Col Khanna and Lt Gen PD Bhargava
Respected Veteran Col Khanna Sir,
Jai Hind & my salute to you.
I, on behalf of the Veterans fraternity thank you & express our gratitude to you and to Gen PD Bhargava for being kind & gracious in donating large sums of money to IESM, for funding its events & activities.
I am forwarding your email to Veteran Maj Gen PK Renjen, the Treasurer of IESM for issuing requisite receipts to you and to Gen Bhargava at the earliest.
Regards,
Col Rajan
On 17 February 2010 06:47, Vinay Khanna wrote:
Dear Col Rajan,
I had given the following donations during 2009.
a) During initial membership contribution , Rs 5,000/
b) During your annual meeting at Noida in Aug/Sep, Rs 10,000 to help in meeting the expenses on acct of AGM followed by lunch for all.
Shall feel obliged if you can kindly send me the official receipts for income tax relief.
Similarly Lt Gen PD Bhargava , Ex So-in-C had also contributed Rs 10,000 during the AGM. Please send him the receipt for income tax relief.
Best regards,
Lt Col Vinay Khanna
Ex-Signals IC 10144
C-79, G.K.- I , New Delhi - 110 048
M 9818301089
17 Feb 2010
Jai Hind & my salute to you.
I, on behalf of the Veterans fraternity thank you & express our gratitude to you and to Gen PD Bhargava for being kind & gracious in donating large sums of money to IESM, for funding its events & activities.
I am forwarding your email to Veteran Maj Gen PK Renjen, the Treasurer of IESM for issuing requisite receipts to you and to Gen Bhargava at the earliest.
Regards,
Col Rajan
On 17 February 2010 06:47, Vinay Khanna
Dear Col Rajan,
I had given the following donations during 2009.
a) During initial membership contribution , Rs 5,000/
b) During your annual meeting at Noida in Aug/Sep, Rs 10,000 to help in meeting the expenses on acct of AGM followed by lunch for all.
Shall feel obliged if you can kindly send me the official receipts for income tax relief.
Similarly Lt Gen PD Bhargava , Ex So-in-C had also contributed Rs 10,000 during the AGM. Please send him the receipt for income tax relief.
Best regards,
Lt Col Vinay Khanna
Ex-Signals IC 10144
C-79, G.K.- I , New Delhi - 110 048
M 9818301089
17 Feb 2010
Thanks to Lt Gen BK Bopanna
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Laxmi Purohit
Date: 17 February 2010 03:52
Subject: Donation for IESM
To: info@iesm.org
Cc: colonelrajan44@gmail.com, prenjen@hotmail.com
Dear Gen Satbir,
My good friend Col SS Rajan’s e-mail has prompted me to send you one more token contribution for the cause of our Veterans. A Cheque for Rs 3000/- has been put into the mail bag today. I had sent a similar contribution through Maj Gen AJB Jaini to your office over a year back.
You are doing wonderful work for us all, already. But at every step, do please remember to keep it absolutely soldierly and dignified. The people of our country will NOT approve of the soldier behaving like the rest of Janta !
Warm regards and best wishes,
(Lt Gen BK Bopanna)
From: Laxmi Purohit
Date: 17 February 2010 03:52
Subject: Donation for IESM
To: info@iesm.org
Cc: colonelrajan44@gmail.com, prenjen@hotmail.com
Dear Gen Satbir,
My good friend Col SS Rajan’s e-mail has prompted me to send you one more token contribution for the cause of our Veterans. A Cheque for Rs 3000/- has been put into the mail bag today. I had sent a similar contribution through Maj Gen AJB Jaini to your office over a year back.
You are doing wonderful work for us all, already. But at every step, do please remember to keep it absolutely soldierly and dignified. The people of our country will NOT approve of the soldier behaving like the rest of Janta !
Warm regards and best wishes,
(Lt Gen BK Bopanna)
IESM member Brig Amitava Sarker
17 February 2010 20:11, amitava sarker wrote:
Dear Col Rajan,
Have sent a cheque for Rs 1500/- today on Account of Membership Fee and Donation, to Gen Satbir Singh- IDBI Cheque No 900624 dt 18 Feb,2010.
--
Regards
Brig Amitava Sarker
Dear Col Rajan,
Have sent a cheque for Rs 1500/- today on Account of Membership Fee and Donation, to Gen Satbir Singh- IDBI Cheque No 900624 dt 18 Feb,2010.
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Regards
Brig Amitava Sarker
Friday, February 12, 2010
IESM Membership at Pune
From: Ravindra Pathak raviwarsha@gmail.com
Sent: 11 February 2010 21:35
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen
Subject: IESM Membership
Dear Sir
The following online registrations have been done today by Gr Capt Phatak
S.NO RANK NAME AMOUNT Fees Donation
1 MWO Adhatrao V N 40
2 H F L Savarkar M P 40
3 JWO Nagalkar M P 40
4 WO Gadgil V A 40
5 MWO Murudkar A K 40
6 JWO Rasne M R 40
7 HFO Shelke P J 40
8 MWO Padhye M B 40
9 JWO Sandbhor G R 40
10 HFO Ghormade N B 40
11 JWO Kolhatkar A H 40
12 MWO Manohar A J 40
13 HFL Mehtre M H 40
14 JWO Hadap S B 40
15 HFO Moholkar R G 40
16 MWO Mhaiskar A D 40
17 WO Kulkarni M K 40
18 W/O Sgt Sharad Yadnopravit 10
19 Wg Cdr V R Patwardhan 100 400
20 Lt ColK S Pandit 100 400
21 Brig A D Chaubal 100 400
22 Ch MeShelke A R 40 160
23 Hon CaptN G Dange 40 160
24 Lt ColPradeep Brahmankar 100 400
25 Cdr Sanjay Navnath 100 400
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Sent: 11 February 2010 21:35
To: Maj Gen Satbir Singh
Cc: Brig C S Kamboj; Kirit Joshipura; Maj Gen Pravesh Renjen
Subject: IESM Membership
Dear Sir
The following online registrations have been done today by Gr Capt Phatak
S.NO RANK NAME AMOUNT Fees Donation
1 MWO Adhatrao V N 40
2 H F L Savarkar M P 40
3 JWO Nagalkar M P 40
4 WO Gadgil V A 40
5 MWO Murudkar A K 40
6 JWO Rasne M R 40
7 HFO Shelke P J 40
8 MWO Padhye M B 40
9 JWO Sandbhor G R 40
10 HFO Ghormade N B 40
11 JWO Kolhatkar A H 40
12 MWO Manohar A J 40
13 HFL Mehtre M H 40
14 JWO Hadap S B 40
15 HFO Moholkar R G 40
16 MWO Mhaiskar A D 40
17 WO Kulkarni M K 40
18 W/O Sgt Sharad Yadnopravit 10
19 Wg Cdr V R Patwardhan 100 400
20 Lt ColK S Pandit 100 400
21 Brig A D Chaubal 100 400
22 Ch MeShelke A R 40 160
23 Hon CaptN G Dange 40 160
24 Lt ColPradeep Brahmankar 100 400
25 Cdr Sanjay Navnath 100 400
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Honour in uniform
DECCACN
Chronicle
Visakhapatnam, Feb 12, 2010.
Page 10
Honour in uniform
THE GOVERNER
GENERAL’S FILES
SK Sinha
THE ARMY is the ultimate weapon of the nation. In the words of Eisenhower, “When diplomats fail to preserve peace, the Army is called upon to restore peace and when the civil administration fails to maintain order the Army is required to restore order. As the nation’s ultimate weapon, the Army must never fail”. In a democracy, the military must remain subordinate to the civil.
The latter means the elected government and not the bureaucracy. This subordination must never be reduced to servility or subservience. The military and its chiefs are institutions whose image must be safeguarded by the government in the interest of the nation. The chiefs also play a role in ensuring this.
Britain being the “mother of parliaments” established the principle of supremacy of the civil over the military. The Indian Army raised by the British imbibed that tradition. Thus there was no hiccup in continuing with this after Independence. The Army has been executing the nation’s will and has never imposed its will on the nation. Our problem in 1947 was to transform what had been a colonial Army into a national Army. On the eve of Independence Mahatma Gandhi wrote about the Army in the Harijan: “Up till now they have been employed in indiscriminate firing upon us. Today they must plough the land, dig wells, clean latrines and do every other constructive work that they can and thus convert the people’s hatred of them into love”. The Army’s role in maintaining order during the Partition holocaust, in saving Kashmir and Hyderabad, and in defending the country, made it the most popular instrument of the state. Unfortunately, the increasing esteem and popularity of the Army among the people has been matched by the progressive diminution of the Army both in decision making and in status. This is a matter of grave concern. Both the government and the service chiefs have to ensure that their image is not allowed to suffer.
The Sukna land scam has been under the scanner of the media for nearly four months. One is confused about what exactly has happened. It is reported that contrary to a previous decision, four generals were involved in issuing a no-objection certificate to a builder for building a school on land which belongs neither to the Army nor the government. So far no report has appeared of any bribe being taken or any disproportionate assets. Four very senior officers of the Army are facing a court martial. Hopefully justice will not only be done but seen to be done — the guilty punished and the innocent acquitted. However, it is distressing that differences between the defence minister and the Army Chief about taking administrative action or disciplinary action were aired in the media. Could not this have been sorted out at a meeting between the two without publicising the differences between them? Our irrational higher defence organisation, based on the philosophy of “we” and “they”, and not “us”, continues despite the meaningless change in nomenclature from C-in-C to COAS in 1955, and of the recent change in terminology to Integrated Ministry of Defence.
This militates against an “us” approach. The manner of handling the Sukna land case has unnecessarily undermined the position of the Army Chief.
Look at the history of the Indian Army and how both failure and disagreements have been dealt with. Within a few weeks of Independence, the Army Chief was dismissed. Sir Robert McGregor MacDonald Lockhart, who took over as Army Chief on August 15, 1947, had been informed by his British counterpart in Pakistan of the preparations being made in that country for the invasion of Kashmir. He failed to apprise the government nor did he take any action in the matter. Pakistan’s invasion of Kashmir in October 1947 caught us totally unprepared. The Army miraculously managed to retrieve the situation. Sardar Patel insisted on removing Sir Robert. Sir Roy Bucher relieved him in November 1947. No publicity was given to this sacking for obvious reasons. We still had British officers serving in the Army and a British General as Army Chief for over a year till January 1949. The next such instance was the dismissal of the Navy Chief in 2000. Whatever the merit of Admiral Bhagwat’s stand on the basis of the Naval Act of questioning the government’s decision to appoint Vice Admiral Harinder Singh as vicechief, the episode and the drama connected with the removal of Admiral Bhagwat were unfortunate. Neither George Fernandes, the then defence minister, nor Admiral Bhagwat acquitted themselves too well.
There has been only one occasion on which a service chief tendered his resignation. General K.S. Thimayya resigned in 1958 over differences with the then defence minister, V.K. Krishna Menon, on a promotion case. He was a charismatic, very respected and popular Army Chief with a brilliant war record. Pandit Nehru persuaded
him to withdraw his resignation and thereafter castigated him in Parliament. General Thimayya ignored this reproach and continued to serve. He became a lame duck Army Chief during his remaining tenure. Had he chosen to resign on a more substantive issue, like neglect of defences in the Himalayas, and stuck to his resignation, he could have gone out a hero, setting the right pattern for civilmilitary relations. The nation would have been saved the humiliation of 1962. Nehru need not have died broken-hearted. By 1962, the institution of service chief had been so degraded that the then Army Chief, General P.N. Thapar, seems to have had little say in the decision to go to war with China. On his way to Sri Lanka, Nehru told the press at Chennai that he had given orders to the Army to evict the Chinese from the Himalayas. A joint secretary at Tezpur conveyed this order on a chit of paper to Gen.
Thapar. Fortunately the position of the Army Chief was redeemed by General J.N. Chaudhuri during the 1965 war, and more so by Manekshaw in 1971.
The Bofors scam ushered in an era of ongoing rampant corruption and the most blatant coverups. Hardly any of the numerous tainted political leaders have been convicted. Corruption, like a galloping malignant cancer, has been spreading to all departments of the government and to all sections of civil society. The Army has also been affected and a few general officers got involved in corruption. This has badly tarnished the Army’s image. A redeeming feature has been that unlike in the case of civilians, the tainted generals were promptly dealt with and punishment meted out to them.
The author, a retired lieutenant general, was Vice Chief of Army Staff and has served as governor of Assam and Jammu and Kashmir
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THE END
Chronicle
Visakhapatnam, Feb 12, 2010.
Page 10
Honour in uniform
THE GOVERNER
GENERAL’S FILES
SK Sinha
THE ARMY is the ultimate weapon of the nation. In the words of Eisenhower, “When diplomats fail to preserve peace, the Army is called upon to restore peace and when the civil administration fails to maintain order the Army is required to restore order. As the nation’s ultimate weapon, the Army must never fail”. In a democracy, the military must remain subordinate to the civil.
The latter means the elected government and not the bureaucracy. This subordination must never be reduced to servility or subservience. The military and its chiefs are institutions whose image must be safeguarded by the government in the interest of the nation. The chiefs also play a role in ensuring this.
Britain being the “mother of parliaments” established the principle of supremacy of the civil over the military. The Indian Army raised by the British imbibed that tradition. Thus there was no hiccup in continuing with this after Independence. The Army has been executing the nation’s will and has never imposed its will on the nation. Our problem in 1947 was to transform what had been a colonial Army into a national Army. On the eve of Independence Mahatma Gandhi wrote about the Army in the Harijan: “Up till now they have been employed in indiscriminate firing upon us. Today they must plough the land, dig wells, clean latrines and do every other constructive work that they can and thus convert the people’s hatred of them into love”. The Army’s role in maintaining order during the Partition holocaust, in saving Kashmir and Hyderabad, and in defending the country, made it the most popular instrument of the state. Unfortunately, the increasing esteem and popularity of the Army among the people has been matched by the progressive diminution of the Army both in decision making and in status. This is a matter of grave concern. Both the government and the service chiefs have to ensure that their image is not allowed to suffer.
The Sukna land scam has been under the scanner of the media for nearly four months. One is confused about what exactly has happened. It is reported that contrary to a previous decision, four generals were involved in issuing a no-objection certificate to a builder for building a school on land which belongs neither to the Army nor the government. So far no report has appeared of any bribe being taken or any disproportionate assets. Four very senior officers of the Army are facing a court martial. Hopefully justice will not only be done but seen to be done — the guilty punished and the innocent acquitted. However, it is distressing that differences between the defence minister and the Army Chief about taking administrative action or disciplinary action were aired in the media. Could not this have been sorted out at a meeting between the two without publicising the differences between them? Our irrational higher defence organisation, based on the philosophy of “we” and “they”, and not “us”, continues despite the meaningless change in nomenclature from C-in-C to COAS in 1955, and of the recent change in terminology to Integrated Ministry of Defence.
This militates against an “us” approach. The manner of handling the Sukna land case has unnecessarily undermined the position of the Army Chief.
Look at the history of the Indian Army and how both failure and disagreements have been dealt with. Within a few weeks of Independence, the Army Chief was dismissed. Sir Robert McGregor MacDonald Lockhart, who took over as Army Chief on August 15, 1947, had been informed by his British counterpart in Pakistan of the preparations being made in that country for the invasion of Kashmir. He failed to apprise the government nor did he take any action in the matter. Pakistan’s invasion of Kashmir in October 1947 caught us totally unprepared. The Army miraculously managed to retrieve the situation. Sardar Patel insisted on removing Sir Robert. Sir Roy Bucher relieved him in November 1947. No publicity was given to this sacking for obvious reasons. We still had British officers serving in the Army and a British General as Army Chief for over a year till January 1949. The next such instance was the dismissal of the Navy Chief in 2000. Whatever the merit of Admiral Bhagwat’s stand on the basis of the Naval Act of questioning the government’s decision to appoint Vice Admiral Harinder Singh as vicechief, the episode and the drama connected with the removal of Admiral Bhagwat were unfortunate. Neither George Fernandes, the then defence minister, nor Admiral Bhagwat acquitted themselves too well.
There has been only one occasion on which a service chief tendered his resignation. General K.S. Thimayya resigned in 1958 over differences with the then defence minister, V.K. Krishna Menon, on a promotion case. He was a charismatic, very respected and popular Army Chief with a brilliant war record. Pandit Nehru persuaded
him to withdraw his resignation and thereafter castigated him in Parliament. General Thimayya ignored this reproach and continued to serve. He became a lame duck Army Chief during his remaining tenure. Had he chosen to resign on a more substantive issue, like neglect of defences in the Himalayas, and stuck to his resignation, he could have gone out a hero, setting the right pattern for civilmilitary relations. The nation would have been saved the humiliation of 1962. Nehru need not have died broken-hearted. By 1962, the institution of service chief had been so degraded that the then Army Chief, General P.N. Thapar, seems to have had little say in the decision to go to war with China. On his way to Sri Lanka, Nehru told the press at Chennai that he had given orders to the Army to evict the Chinese from the Himalayas. A joint secretary at Tezpur conveyed this order on a chit of paper to Gen.
Thapar. Fortunately the position of the Army Chief was redeemed by General J.N. Chaudhuri during the 1965 war, and more so by Manekshaw in 1971.
The Bofors scam ushered in an era of ongoing rampant corruption and the most blatant coverups. Hardly any of the numerous tainted political leaders have been convicted. Corruption, like a galloping malignant cancer, has been spreading to all departments of the government and to all sections of civil society. The Army has also been affected and a few general officers got involved in corruption. This has badly tarnished the Army’s image. A redeeming feature has been that unlike in the case of civilians, the tainted generals were promptly dealt with and punishment meted out to them.
The author, a retired lieutenant general, was Vice Chief of Army Staff and has served as governor of Assam and Jammu and Kashmir
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THE END
HOW AND WHY 'HOW' SQUADRON BECAME 'HUNTER' SQUADRON
From: Maj Gen Surjit Singh
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:47 PM
Subject: HOW AND WHY 'HOW' SQUADRON BECAME 'HUNTER' SQUADRON
Dear Brig Kamboj and Friends,
The immediate impetus for 'shooting out' this mail is a message which has come from brother, Kulbir Suri (of the King Sqn)to inform us that all the three four-star officers in our country will be from Hunter squadron of the NDA. I was in that squadron in my final term. But there is a story to tell. I think it must be placed on record for the benefit of the posterity. Here is what happened.
When the JSW was established in 1949, there were two squadrons : A and B. Then they raised two more in the second Bn, C and D. The next two were E and F. The next three were added on, one each to the three Bns. So we had A,B and G in 1 Bn, C,D and H in 2 Bn and E, F and I in the third Bn. The phonetic pronunciations at that time were
Able, Baker, Charlie, Dog, Easy, Fox, George, How, Item, Juliet and King.
At this stage, a tenth squadron was raised. "Juliet" was not acceptable to the academy as the name for a Sqn. So it was skipped. The 10th Sqn, in No. 1 Bn was named King Sqn.
So far so good. Then in 1958 we got a new Commandant, Rear Admiral BA Samson. He decided to "rationalize" the squadrons. And so the names were changed. By that time, the phonetic pronunciations had also undergone a change. The new ones were,
Alfa, Bravo,Charlie, Delta, Echo, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India, Juliet, Kilo etc
I was in Easy Sqn. The new name given to us was 'Hotel' The cadet appointed the SCC in our course was an enterprising fellow; and the undisputed topper in academics. (He had stood first in our entrance order of merit and retained his position all through the six terms) The squadron commander was also an Air Force officer. The SCC was able to prevail upon the Academy bosses to designate our Sqn as "HUNTER" Sqn. We got that name, and it has stuck!! Thus while the famous "King" Sqn was reduced to "Kilo" we got a martial designation, "Hunter"
Our Squadron produced two successive gold medalists and two successive silver medalists. And now all the three chiefs are from that Sqn. I wonder if that could have happened if the name of the Sqn was "Hotel"!!!
The name of the SCC who made the difference is JOSEPH THOMAS.
Three cheers for the HUNTER Squadron. Long live the Squadron spirit. In all humility, I must hasten to confess that as a cadet, I was never able to do any thing worth the mention. But when the likes of KD were running on the field, I was never wanting in cheering them up. I shouted my throat hoarse, on more than one occasion.
God Bless the cadets of the Hunter Squadron
Surjit
PS
Thomas, Please correct me where I am wrong and join the dots to create the line. You have helped me all these 52 years. And so, please hold my hand as ever before!!
Raj Kadyan, You are the other one on whom I am banking to put the record straightwherever I am wrong.
KD You have crossed seven seas. But in spirit you are with us!
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From: J Thomas
To: 19-28course@yahoogroups.com; ""REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)"
Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 12:06:26 AM
Subject: HOW AND WHY 'HOW' SQUADRON BECAME 'HUNTER' SQUADRON
Dear Surjit,
Thanks for the small historical note. And I'm delighted and honoured that all three chiefs will soon be from Hunter squadron.
A few small clarifications and corrections :
Maybe Juliet was not acceptable to the academy as the name for a Sqn in the early days. However, I remember visiting NDA to see the 28th Course brother of my dear friend and course mate. At that time he was in Juliet sqn. But I'm glad to say that when we visited the academy in 2007, it was called Jaguar squadron.
As far as I know, the squadron names were "rationalized" at the instigation of Wg Cdr MD "Macy" Khanna, then a Battalion Commander. He convinced the Commandant that "squadron spirit" should be replaced by "battalion spirit." Renaming the squadrons was part of this exercise. We also started having more inter battalion competitions.
It was bad enough being called 'Easy' squadron or 'Echo' squadron. But I couldn't imagine a squadron being called 'Hotel' squadron. Our squadron commander was from the air force only in the first term. After that the incumbents were Major Kothavalla and Major Khader Ahmed. And no, I did not ask anybody for permission to change the name to Hunter. I just used it while commanding the squadron on parade. Nobody objected.
At that time Hunter aircraft were new in India and there were two squadrons in Pune. They used to fly past at our POP and also break the sound barrier. I had the good fortune to fly the Hunter aircraft 11 years later.
Three cheers for HUNTER squadron.
J Thomas
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From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Sent: 10 February 2010 06:37
To: 19-28course@yahoogroups.com; "REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)
Subject: HOW AND WHY 'HOW' SQUADRON BECAME 'HUNTER' SQUADRON
Dear General Surjit and Veteral Thomas,
Thank you for your fill-up on historicity. I join you in saying ;cheers' for the Hunter Squadron. Frankly, we inherited the word Hunter when we reached final term. I was not aware that Thomas had done it. He richly deserves the credit for this very inspiring change of name.
I agree with Thomas on the names of the Sqn Commanders. Throughout my six terms we had an Army Major head the Sqn. In my Division (14 with 'E' and 23 when name changed to 'H') we stared with a Naval DO but had an Air Force officer from our III term on. Flt Lts Mehta, Sandhu and Jog were there.
In our final term Brig Hoshiar Singh took over as Deputy Commandant. In camp Torna he tried a new experiment. In five days (the duration got reduced by a day due to visit of PM Nehru on 14 Mar 1961) we had to cover 125 miles with exercises and many competitions thrown in. It was so tiring that on return on Saturday we had a heavy lunch and slept through to Moday morning. The 'Hunters' proudly picked up the Torna championship banner.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon- 122 001
To: "REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:47 PM
Subject: HOW AND WHY 'HOW' SQUADRON BECAME 'HUNTER' SQUADRON
Dear Brig Kamboj and Friends,
The immediate impetus for 'shooting out' this mail is a message which has come from brother, Kulbir Suri (of the King Sqn)to inform us that all the three four-star officers in our country will be from Hunter squadron of the NDA. I was in that squadron in my final term. But there is a story to tell. I think it must be placed on record for the benefit of the posterity. Here is what happened.
When the JSW was established in 1949, there were two squadrons : A and B. Then they raised two more in the second Bn, C and D. The next two were E and F. The next three were added on, one each to the three Bns. So we had A,B and G in 1 Bn, C,D and H in 2 Bn and E, F and I in the third Bn. The phonetic pronunciations at that time were
Able, Baker, Charlie, Dog, Easy, Fox, George, How, Item, Juliet and King.
At this stage, a tenth squadron was raised. "Juliet" was not acceptable to the academy as the name for a Sqn. So it was skipped. The 10th Sqn, in No. 1 Bn was named King Sqn.
So far so good. Then in 1958 we got a new Commandant, Rear Admiral BA Samson. He decided to "rationalize" the squadrons. And so the names were changed. By that time, the phonetic pronunciations had also undergone a change. The new ones were,
Alfa, Bravo,Charlie, Delta, Echo, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India, Juliet, Kilo etc
I was in Easy Sqn. The new name given to us was 'Hotel' The cadet appointed the SCC in our course was an enterprising fellow; and the undisputed topper in academics. (He had stood first in our entrance order of merit and retained his position all through the six terms) The squadron commander was also an Air Force officer. The SCC was able to prevail upon the Academy bosses to designate our Sqn as "HUNTER" Sqn. We got that name, and it has stuck!! Thus while the famous "King" Sqn was reduced to "Kilo" we got a martial designation, "Hunter"
Our Squadron produced two successive gold medalists and two successive silver medalists. And now all the three chiefs are from that Sqn. I wonder if that could have happened if the name of the Sqn was "Hotel"!!!
The name of the SCC who made the difference is JOSEPH THOMAS.
Three cheers for the HUNTER Squadron. Long live the Squadron spirit. In all humility, I must hasten to confess that as a cadet, I was never able to do any thing worth the mention. But when the likes of KD were running on the field, I was never wanting in cheering them up. I shouted my throat hoarse, on more than one occasion.
God Bless the cadets of the Hunter Squadron
Surjit
PS
Thomas, Please correct me where I am wrong and join the dots to create the line. You have helped me all these 52 years. And so, please hold my hand as ever before!!
Raj Kadyan, You are the other one on whom I am banking to put the record straightwherever I am wrong.
KD You have crossed seven seas. But in spirit you are with us!
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From: J Thomas
To: 19-28course@yahoogroups.com; ""REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)"
Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 12:06:26 AM
Subject: HOW AND WHY 'HOW' SQUADRON BECAME 'HUNTER' SQUADRON
Dear Surjit,
Thanks for the small historical note. And I'm delighted and honoured that all three chiefs will soon be from Hunter squadron.
A few small clarifications and corrections :
Maybe Juliet was not acceptable to the academy as the name for a Sqn in the early days. However, I remember visiting NDA to see the 28th Course brother of my dear friend and course mate. At that time he was in Juliet sqn. But I'm glad to say that when we visited the academy in 2007, it was called Jaguar squadron.
As far as I know, the squadron names were "rationalized" at the instigation of Wg Cdr MD "Macy" Khanna, then a Battalion Commander. He convinced the Commandant that "squadron spirit" should be replaced by "battalion spirit." Renaming the squadrons was part of this exercise. We also started having more inter battalion competitions.
It was bad enough being called 'Easy' squadron or 'Echo' squadron. But I couldn't imagine a squadron being called 'Hotel' squadron. Our squadron commander was from the air force only in the first term. After that the incumbents were Major Kothavalla and Major Khader Ahmed. And no, I did not ask anybody for permission to change the name to Hunter. I just used it while commanding the squadron on parade. Nobody objected.
At that time Hunter aircraft were new in India and there were two squadrons in Pune. They used to fly past at our POP and also break the sound barrier. I had the good fortune to fly the Hunter aircraft 11 years later.
Three cheers for HUNTER squadron.
J Thomas
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From: raj kadyan rajkadyan@yahoo.com
Sent: 10 February 2010 06:37
To: 19-28course@yahoogroups.com; "REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)
Subject: HOW AND WHY 'HOW' SQUADRON BECAME 'HUNTER' SQUADRON
Dear General Surjit and Veteral Thomas,
Thank you for your fill-up on historicity. I join you in saying ;cheers' for the Hunter Squadron. Frankly, we inherited the word Hunter when we reached final term. I was not aware that Thomas had done it. He richly deserves the credit for this very inspiring change of name.
I agree with Thomas on the names of the Sqn Commanders. Throughout my six terms we had an Army Major head the Sqn. In my Division (14 with 'E' and 23 when name changed to 'H') we stared with a Naval DO but had an Air Force officer from our III term on. Flt Lts Mehta, Sandhu and Jog were there.
In our final term Brig Hoshiar Singh took over as Deputy Commandant. In camp Torna he tried a new experiment. In five days (the duration got reduced by a day due to visit of PM Nehru on 14 Mar 1961) we had to cover 125 miles with exercises and many competitions thrown in. It was so tiring that on return on Saturday we had a heavy lunch and slept through to Moday morning. The 'Hunters' proudly picked up the Torna championship banner.
Best regards,
Lt Gen (Emeritus) Raj Kadyan, PVSM, AVSM, VSM
Chairman IESM
262, Sector-17A, Gurgaon- 122 001
NEW EMAIL ID of Brig Dharam Prakash
From: Brigadier Dharam Prakash brigadierdp@gmail.com
Sent: 10 February 2010 17:41
To: Kamboj Chander
Cc: suresh sharma
Subject: NEW EMAIL ID
Dear Brig Kamboj
My email id brigadierdp@hotmail.com has been hacked.I am no longer using same.
My new email is brigadierdp@gmail.com
Please delete my old id and include new id in the mailing list of "Report my signal"
Also IESM staff be requested to correct my personal data with them including in members list on website
Regards
--
Brigadier Dharam Prakash (Retd)
B-401, AWHO Complex,Sector 9
Nerul,Navi Mumbai,400706.
022 27703854 (R), 022 27700341 (Fax)
09833377716
Sent: 10 February 2010 17:41
To: Kamboj Chander
Cc: suresh sharma
Subject: NEW EMAIL ID
Dear Brig Kamboj
My email id brigadierdp@hotmail.com has been hacked.I am no longer using same.
My new email is brigadierdp@gmail.com
Please delete my old id and include new id in the mailing list of "Report my signal"
Also IESM staff be requested to correct my personal data with them including in members list on website
Regards
--
Brigadier Dharam Prakash (Retd)
B-401, AWHO Complex,Sector 9
Nerul,Navi Mumbai,400706.
022 27703854 (R), 022 27700341 (Fax)
09833377716
enrolement new members
From: papa sekhri papasekhri@hotmail.com
Sent: 09 February 2010 19:58
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj)
Cc: pk renjen; gen satbir singh
Subject: enrolement new members
Sir,
1.The following 12 members fm Noida have been enrolled:-
a)Col M R Thareja,------500/
b)Col Pankaj Sud--------500/
c)Sep Murlidhar---------100/
d)Cdr D V Dua-----------100/
e)Lt col B S Ahluwalia---100/+500/(donation)
f)Col Ashok Kumar-----500/
f)Hony Sub Maj a d kandpal--200/
g)Ltcol J R Rana--------100/
h)Brig A Dayal----------500/+500/(donation)
i)Maj Gen Basant Mullick--100/
j)Mrs Avinash Murti w/o late Ltcol Ram Murti
k)Mrs Usha Sah w/o late Maj O P Sah
2. Chqs for ser (a) to (h )have been deposited in the HDFC BK in Noida.
3.Ser (i)-Maj Gen Mullick had dropped his Hdfc bank a/c chq in the Hdfc bank ATM at PUNE on 08 jan10.The enrollment form has been completed now.
4. All the 12 forms along with the bank deposit slips are being sent by courier on 10 feb.
Regards,
col sekhri
Sent: 09 February 2010 19:58
To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj)
Cc: pk renjen; gen satbir singh
Subject: enrolement new members
Sir,
1.The following 12 members fm Noida have been enrolled:-
a)Col M R Thareja,------500/
b)Col Pankaj Sud--------500/
c)Sep Murlidhar---------100/
d)Cdr D V Dua-----------100/
e)Lt col B S Ahluwalia---100/+500/(donation)
f)Col Ashok Kumar-----500/
f)Hony Sub Maj a d kandpal--200/
g)Ltcol J R Rana--------100/
h)Brig A Dayal----------500/+500/(donation)
i)Maj Gen Basant Mullick--100/
j)Mrs Avinash Murti w/o late Ltcol Ram Murti
k)Mrs Usha Sah w/o late Maj O P Sah
2. Chqs for ser (a) to (h )have been deposited in the HDFC BK in Noida.
3.Ser (i)-Maj Gen Mullick had dropped his Hdfc bank a/c chq in the Hdfc bank ATM at PUNE on 08 jan10.The enrollment form has been completed now.
4. All the 12 forms along with the bank deposit slips are being sent by courier on 10 feb.
Regards,
col sekhri
IESM Tamilnadu- New Members
From: ramantn sarma colram40@yahoo.com
Sent: 09 February 2010 14:34
To: Rajagopalan S
Cc: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj); TRUNCATED
Subject: IESM Tamilnadu- New Members
Dear Commander Rajagopalan,
Received the five Membership forms with a cash of Rs 5,00/-. The amount has been deposited in the IESM acct, with HDFC Bank today & the on line Registration of them have been completed. On behalf of the Chairman IESM, I welcome the following New Members to our fold :-
Hav N Krishnamoorthy, Hav Arul, Cpl B Subramanian, Hav R Thiyagarajan & L/Nk V Arumugam.
I was also informed by Col N Viswanathan that you will be sending another 40 Forms shortly. I am thankful to you for your fine efforts in continuing with the enrolment. Well Done & Keep it up!!
Regards,
Veteran Raman
Sent: 09 February 2010 14:34
To: Rajagopalan S
Cc: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj); TRUNCATED
Subject: IESM Tamilnadu- New Members
Dear Commander Rajagopalan,
Received the five Membership forms with a cash of Rs 5,00/-. The amount has been deposited in the IESM acct, with HDFC Bank today & the on line Registration of them have been completed. On behalf of the Chairman IESM, I welcome the following New Members to our fold :-
Hav N Krishnamoorthy, Hav Arul, Cpl B Subramanian, Hav R Thiyagarajan & L/Nk V Arumugam.
I was also informed by Col N Viswanathan that you will be sending another 40 Forms shortly. I am thankful to you for your fine efforts in continuing with the enrolment. Well Done & Keep it up!!
Regards,
Veteran Raman
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
War-injured to get maximum pension?
Hindustantimes
epaper
February 2, 2010
Page 13
http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/
War-injured to get maximum pension?
HT Correspondent
letters@hindustantimes.com
NEW DELHI: The Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) has come to the help of war-injured soldiers and directed the government to consider a maximum of the pay scale for an officer while fixing his war injury pension.
The tribunal headed by Justice A.K. Mathur also advised the government not to differentiate between a short service commissioned officer and a permanent officer while granting death-cum-retirement gratuity (DCRG).
The tribunal accepted the plea of the petitioner Disabled War Veterans and held: "We strongly feel that it is a matter which requires a serious consideration of the Government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank. Therefore, looking yeoman service rendered by incumbent, he should be given a fair treatment."
Appearing for the petitioner, advocate Aiswarya Bhatti criticised the present government practice and said a war injury cut short an officer's service, forcing him to retire permanently. Therefore, she said, it would be harsh and unfair to the soldier if his maximum pay scale were not considered for determining the amount of war injury pension.
Observing that the discrimination on the basis of an officer's service violated Article 14 of the Constitution, the tribunal added: "Once the Short Service Commission officers and the Permanent Service Commission officers fight on the border shoulder to shoulder, they form same class and no further distinction can be made... and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in payment of DCRG
epaper
February 2, 2010
Page 13
http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/
War-injured to get maximum pension?
HT Correspondent
letters@hindustantimes.com
NEW DELHI: The Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) has come to the help of war-injured soldiers and directed the government to consider a maximum of the pay scale for an officer while fixing his war injury pension.
The tribunal headed by Justice A.K. Mathur also advised the government not to differentiate between a short service commissioned officer and a permanent officer while granting death-cum-retirement gratuity (DCRG).
The tribunal accepted the plea of the petitioner Disabled War Veterans and held: "We strongly feel that it is a matter which requires a serious consideration of the Government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank. Therefore, looking yeoman service rendered by incumbent, he should be given a fair treatment."
Appearing for the petitioner, advocate Aiswarya Bhatti criticised the present government practice and said a war injury cut short an officer's service, forcing him to retire permanently. Therefore, she said, it would be harsh and unfair to the soldier if his maximum pay scale were not considered for determining the amount of war injury pension.
Observing that the discrimination on the basis of an officer's service violated Article 14 of the Constitution, the tribunal added: "Once the Short Service Commission officers and the Permanent Service Commission officers fight on the border shoulder to shoulder, they form same class and no further distinction can be made... and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in payment of DCRG
Tribunal puts army in dock says different benefits for similar injuries is discrimination
Tribunal puts army in dock says different benefits for similar injuries is discrimination
Dhananjay Mahapatra, TNN, 3 February 2010, 02:48am IST
NEW DELHI: When a bullet coming from the other side of the border does not distinguish between a commissioned and non-commissioned officer in the Army, how can the government do so when it comes to grant of death-cum-retiremen t gratuity (DCRG), wondered the newly-constituted Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) headed by a retired Supreme Court judge.
In a major order that would assuage the long-standing grievance of the officers, both commissioned and non-commissioned, AFT principal Bench comprising chairperson Justice A K Mathur and member Lt Gen M L Naidu said this discrimination in payment of DCRG was violative of Article 14 (right to equality) guaranteed under the Constitution.
A petition filed by the Disabled War Veterans (India) through counsel Aishwarya Bhati had made two major grievances — one relating to the difference in payment of DCRG and the other regarding computation of pension for a disabled soldier.
Bhati had alleged that the government takes into account the minimum payscale in the rank of the disabled soldier to compute the war injury pension to him and had requested AFT to direct the Centre to consider taking into account the highest pay in the rank for the purpose.
AFT agreed on both counts with the counsel. On DCRG, it said once the short service commission officers and the permanent service commission officers fight on the border shoulder-to- shoulder, they formed the same class and no further distinction can be made.
"Once they form the same class and they are fighting shoulder-to- shoulder against the enemy and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in the payment of DCRG," the AFT said asking the government to take serious note of the anomaly and review the policy forthwith.
"We cannot give them benefit, but we can only request the government that this payment of DCRG on the basis of distinction between short service commission and regular service commission is highly discriminatory. We hope and trust that the government will remove this discrimination which is apparent on the face of it," it said.
Coming to computation of war injury pension, the AFT said the cause of injury which disabled a soldier and cut short his career was beyond the control of the personnel and such persons should be treated fairly by being given war injury pension on the basis of the highest pay in the rank.
"We feel strongly that it is a matter which requires serious consideration of the government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war disabled pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank," the AFT Bench said.
"The maximum scale of that rank should be considered for determining the amount of war injury pension," the AFT said disposing of the petition by the Disabled War Veterans.
dhananjay.mahapatra @timesgroup. com
Dhananjay Mahapatra, TNN, 3 February 2010, 02:48am IST
NEW DELHI: When a bullet coming from the other side of the border does not distinguish between a commissioned and non-commissioned officer in the Army, how can the government do so when it comes to grant of death-cum-retiremen t gratuity (DCRG), wondered the newly-constituted Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) headed by a retired Supreme Court judge.
In a major order that would assuage the long-standing grievance of the officers, both commissioned and non-commissioned, AFT principal Bench comprising chairperson Justice A K Mathur and member Lt Gen M L Naidu said this discrimination in payment of DCRG was violative of Article 14 (right to equality) guaranteed under the Constitution.
A petition filed by the Disabled War Veterans (India) through counsel Aishwarya Bhati had made two major grievances — one relating to the difference in payment of DCRG and the other regarding computation of pension for a disabled soldier.
Bhati had alleged that the government takes into account the minimum payscale in the rank of the disabled soldier to compute the war injury pension to him and had requested AFT to direct the Centre to consider taking into account the highest pay in the rank for the purpose.
AFT agreed on both counts with the counsel. On DCRG, it said once the short service commission officers and the permanent service commission officers fight on the border shoulder-to- shoulder, they formed the same class and no further distinction can be made.
"Once they form the same class and they are fighting shoulder-to- shoulder against the enemy and if unfortunately both of them receive an injury and they are disabled then no distinction can be made in the payment of DCRG," the AFT said asking the government to take serious note of the anomaly and review the policy forthwith.
"We cannot give them benefit, but we can only request the government that this payment of DCRG on the basis of distinction between short service commission and regular service commission is highly discriminatory. We hope and trust that the government will remove this discrimination which is apparent on the face of it," it said.
Coming to computation of war injury pension, the AFT said the cause of injury which disabled a soldier and cut short his career was beyond the control of the personnel and such persons should be treated fairly by being given war injury pension on the basis of the highest pay in the rank.
"We feel strongly that it is a matter which requires serious consideration of the government that a person whose career has been sacrificed for safeguarding the Indian border and he is to be treated in such a poor way that he is being paid war disabled pension on the basis of minimum of the scale of that rank," the AFT Bench said.
"The maximum scale of that rank should be considered for determining the amount of war injury pension," the AFT said disposing of the petition by the Disabled War Veterans.
dhananjay.mahapatra @timesgroup. com
AFT was required 20 years before...V Adm Barin Ghose..???
It has taken an AFT to accept something which the Service Hqs have been striving for since 5th CPC, namely Battle Casualty Awards should not differentiate between :PRC and SSC. Some how the Service HQs could not make the MOD see the raison de etre. Perhaps the Babus did not want to see the difference and kept on parrot wise repeating that SSC did not complete 15 years service and were hence not eligible for any pensionary award.
If only the AFT came about when proposed two decades ago, many of the ills facing the Armed Forces would have been sorted out. The Civil Services with the CAT has been comparitively hassle free.
.I would reccommend that serious thought be given to pushing OROP through AFT with a legal person instead of trying it with MOD
Regards
Vice Admiral Barin Ghose (Retired)
Head Pension Cell
Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
If only the AFT came about when proposed two decades ago, many of the ills facing the Armed Forces would have been sorted out. The Civil Services with the CAT has been comparitively hassle free.
.I would reccommend that serious thought be given to pushing OROP through AFT with a legal person instead of trying it with MOD
Regards
Vice Admiral Barin Ghose (Retired)
Head Pension Cell
Indian Ex Servicemen Movement
An interesting question..???
An interesting question with no answers.
Dear Friend
Last week Maj Gen Joshi called on me. He was an esteemed instructor during our Degree Course days, and EME officers would remember him as one of our finest engineers. Indeed, he spent most of his time with the DRDO. He was commissioned in Jun 1960 and was in the Eastern sector during the 1962 debacle. He has analyzed the event very systematically, and his study reveals the following :
Pt Nehru, the architect of modern India suffered a severe stroke of depression from which he never quite recovered. He died in May 1964 at the comparatively young age of 73.
VK Krishna Menon was removed from the post of Raksha Mantri for his incorrect assessment of the situation.
Gen Thapar, the COAS was sacked. The careers of Lt Gen Kaul and scores of other military officers took a "U" turn.
A few thousand soldiers died; many more were wounded and some were taken prisoners.
The psyche of the country received a severe blow. It was considered a 'National Shame'
The question he asked me was, "Who was the Defence Secretary? And what was the punishment meted out to him?"
I have asked several friends and also surfed the Internet but I am unable to find an answer. In all probability nothing was done to him, because he had no role in this!
Gen Joshi then took this discussion a step further. He observed that during the recent attack on Mumbai, dozens of soldiers and policemen have been killed. The whole nation is shaken. Mr Shivraj Patil has lost his prestigious job. The CM of Maharashtra has been axed and several heads in the government are likely to roll. Can some one tell us as to what action has been taken against the Union Home Secretary or the Chief Secretary of Maharashtra? (Thomas tells me that they will all be "promoted" soon though he does not know why).
Having spent many years in and around the South Block, I marvel at the way our government has been structured. The Civil Servants rule the roost. In terms of promotions and status they are ahead of every one else by miles. They are central in the Pay Commission and the Cabinet Secretary is involved in every major decision making process. Yet, when things go wrong, they wash their hands off so clean that one wonders how!
A slightly closer examination reveals the secret. I have figured it out this way:
They never do anything themselves. They always find some one else to be the head, and they know how to reduce him to be a 'figure head'. (In the Pay Commissions, they have a retired Judge). However they place themselves in a spot which has the maximum opportunity to influence matters.
After the event, they never face the Press or the Media. Their role is amorphous.
The senior amongst them rarely sign a letter or order. Our pension letter is signed by a Director, who is not directly recruited IAS officer. Only rarely do you find a paper signed by a Joint Secretary. Officers above that level do not sign any document.
They have a strong association. It protects the interests of its members dutifully and diligently.
So we have our Defence headquarters in which the postings, promotions, rewards and punishments of all senior officers are controlled by the civil servants; and they also have the final say in the process of procurement of weapons and eqpt, but they are not "responsible" if things go wrong! It is authority without responsibility. (For those who may not know, a lowly officer in the MoD can have a Deputy Chief posted out, but a Service Chief can not get even a Desk Officer moved)
When Gen Joshi left, I found myself perplexed. What sort of system have we evolved? And how has it survived all these years? It is a bit like a unit in which the clerks are running the unit and the CO is so dependent on the Head Clerk that he can not move without their help!
Can some one give a cogent answer to the questions raised by Gen Joshi?
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Dear Friend
Last week Maj Gen Joshi called on me. He was an esteemed instructor during our Degree Course days, and EME officers would remember him as one of our finest engineers. Indeed, he spent most of his time with the DRDO. He was commissioned in Jun 1960 and was in the Eastern sector during the 1962 debacle. He has analyzed the event very systematically, and his study reveals the following :
Pt Nehru, the architect of modern India suffered a severe stroke of depression from which he never quite recovered. He died in May 1964 at the comparatively young age of 73.
VK Krishna Menon was removed from the post of Raksha Mantri for his incorrect assessment of the situation.
Gen Thapar, the COAS was sacked. The careers of Lt Gen Kaul and scores of other military officers took a "U" turn.
A few thousand soldiers died; many more were wounded and some were taken prisoners.
The psyche of the country received a severe blow. It was considered a 'National Shame'
The question he asked me was, "Who was the Defence Secretary? And what was the punishment meted out to him?"
I have asked several friends and also surfed the Internet but I am unable to find an answer. In all probability nothing was done to him, because he had no role in this!
Gen Joshi then took this discussion a step further. He observed that during the recent attack on Mumbai, dozens of soldiers and policemen have been killed. The whole nation is shaken. Mr Shivraj Patil has lost his prestigious job. The CM of Maharashtra has been axed and several heads in the government are likely to roll. Can some one tell us as to what action has been taken against the Union Home Secretary or the Chief Secretary of Maharashtra? (Thomas tells me that they will all be "promoted" soon though he does not know why).
Having spent many years in and around the South Block, I marvel at the way our government has been structured. The Civil Servants rule the roost. In terms of promotions and status they are ahead of every one else by miles. They are central in the Pay Commission and the Cabinet Secretary is involved in every major decision making process. Yet, when things go wrong, they wash their hands off so clean that one wonders how!
A slightly closer examination reveals the secret. I have figured it out this way:
They never do anything themselves. They always find some one else to be the head, and they know how to reduce him to be a 'figure head'. (In the Pay Commissions, they have a retired Judge). However they place themselves in a spot which has the maximum opportunity to influence matters.
After the event, they never face the Press or the Media. Their role is amorphous.
The senior amongst them rarely sign a letter or order. Our pension letter is signed by a Director, who is not directly recruited IAS officer. Only rarely do you find a paper signed by a Joint Secretary. Officers above that level do not sign any document.
They have a strong association. It protects the interests of its members dutifully and diligently.
So we have our Defence headquarters in which the postings, promotions, rewards and punishments of all senior officers are controlled by the civil servants; and they also have the final say in the process of procurement of weapons and eqpt, but they are not "responsible" if things go wrong! It is authority without responsibility. (For those who may not know, a lowly officer in the MoD can have a Deputy Chief posted out, but a Service Chief can not get even a Desk Officer moved)
When Gen Joshi left, I found myself perplexed. What sort of system have we evolved? And how has it survived all these years? It is a bit like a unit in which the clerks are running the unit and the CO is so dependent on the Head Clerk that he can not move without their help!
Can some one give a cogent answer to the questions raised by Gen Joshi?
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Volunteer for ECHS...Lt Gen C sundra Rao
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM, sundara rao wrote:
I volunteer to help ECHS to the max extent possible. My particulars r given below
1. Name Lt Gen C.Sundara Rao (Retd)
2. Age 87 years (GREAT SIR – Chander Kamboj)
3. Date of commission/Seniority Aug 18, 41
4. Date of Retirement 25 Aug 1973
5. Last appointment held DEME (Now DGEME)
6. Place of residence CHENNAI
Lt Gen C.sundara Rao (Retd)
May Joy & Happiness govern your life.
(Thank you General Rao.
Dear ESM, we need many more volunteers for IESM ECHS Division – PLEASE HELP.
If a 87 year old veteran can volunteer why not you???
– Chander Kamboj)
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From: IESM- ECHS Div Hq
Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: ECHS
To: sundara rao
Cc: ks.raghavachari@gmail.com
Sir, Thanks very much for your kind offer to help in our effort to improve ECHS services. Please find attached herein, the Concept Paper #1 about our planning in this regard. At Chennai Regional Liaison Cell we have Gp Capt Raghavachari, to whom this mail is copied.
With your vast experience and maturity, we feel you can assist a lot, in firstly mobilizing more/ many ESM to join this drive of IESM ECHS Division. The volunteers can help by counselling/advising ESM so that the time the OC has to devote to queries, can probably be saved eg Which are the empanelled hospitals, what is the procedure for ...........etc.A sort of Help Desk, manned through the day, by volunteers devoting say 2 hrs per day/ as comfortable and a sort of rostering being done. Then there are issues of using ones good offices to motivate station Hq to clear bills / indents faster. ............or some volunteers substituting for absent staff at registration desk etc............these are being done at some stations and shortly we would be trying out at Noida polyclinic. Ofcourse, I am sure Gp Capt Raghavahari himself would draw upon your offer to add weightage to our efforts at the RLC.........but then the cutting edge is at Polyclinics..........the main problem we face is the availability of medicines ,,,,,,,,,,,, and an information system to inform the concerned veteran when the NA medicine arrives.........say through an SMS or a 'missed call- call back' system. Possibilities are immense, unlimited infact.
Do please feel free to call me/ mail me for any inputs you feel would benefit us. Thanks again.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
Skype: rakesh.prasad.chaturvedi
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From: hsingh1 . [mailto:hsingh1@sify.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 20:27
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT JOB BEING DONE BY ECHS DIVISION OF IESM - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 051/2010 - 30 JAN 2010 (H to Z)
Dear Chander,
Brigadier Abhay Bhargava has done commendable work and set a fine
example for all the veterans to follow.
My congratulations to Brigadier Abhay Bhargava.
Harbhajan Singh
Lt Gen
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From: Virendra Swarup [mailto:colonelviruswarup@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 01:21
To: brigabhay@gmail.com
Subject: Well done ...
Dear Brig Abhay,
Kindly accept my compliments for excellent work in helping out our ex-servicemen brethren; keep it up...
May God Bless You,
Take care,
Viru Swarup
www.colonelviruswarup.com
5116, East Butler Dr
Paradise Valley, AZ 85253, USA
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Air Vice Marshal A Abhayakumar (Retd.) No. 17 1st Main Road Domlur Layout, Bangalore - 560071 Tel:80-535-1677
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I volunteer to help ECHS to the max extent possible. My particulars r given below
1. Name Lt Gen C.Sundara Rao (Retd)
2. Age 87 years (GREAT SIR – Chander Kamboj)
3. Date of commission/Seniority Aug 18, 41
4. Date of Retirement 25 Aug 1973
5. Last appointment held DEME (Now DGEME)
6. Place of residence CHENNAI
Lt Gen C.sundara Rao (Retd)
May Joy & Happiness govern your life.
(Thank you General Rao.
Dear ESM, we need many more volunteers for IESM ECHS Division – PLEASE HELP.
If a 87 year old veteran can volunteer why not you???
– Chander Kamboj)
----------
From: IESM- ECHS Div Hq
Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: ECHS
To: sundara rao
Cc: ks.raghavachari@gmail.com
Sir, Thanks very much for your kind offer to help in our effort to improve ECHS services. Please find attached herein, the Concept Paper #1 about our planning in this regard. At Chennai Regional Liaison Cell we have Gp Capt Raghavachari, to whom this mail is copied.
With your vast experience and maturity, we feel you can assist a lot, in firstly mobilizing more/ many ESM to join this drive of IESM ECHS Division. The volunteers can help by counselling/advising ESM so that the time the OC has to devote to queries, can probably be saved eg Which are the empanelled hospitals, what is the procedure for ...........etc.A sort of Help Desk, manned through the day, by volunteers devoting say 2 hrs per day/ as comfortable and a sort of rostering being done. Then there are issues of using ones good offices to motivate station Hq to clear bills / indents faster. ............or some volunteers substituting for absent staff at registration desk etc............these are being done at some stations and shortly we would be trying out at Noida polyclinic. Ofcourse, I am sure Gp Capt Raghavahari himself would draw upon your offer to add weightage to our efforts at the RLC.........but then the cutting edge is at Polyclinics..........the main problem we face is the availability of medicines ,,,,,,,,,,,, and an information system to inform the concerned veteran when the NA medicine arrives.........say through an SMS or a 'missed call- call back' system. Possibilities are immense, unlimited infact.
Do please feel free to call me/ mail me for any inputs you feel would benefit us. Thanks again.
With Warm Regards,
Col RP Chaturvedi,
A-35, Sector 36,
Noida 201303.
Mob: +919891279035
Skype: rakesh.prasad.chaturvedi
-----------
From: hsingh1 . [mailto:hsingh1@sify.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 20:27
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT JOB BEING DONE BY ECHS DIVISION OF IESM - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 051/2010 - 30 JAN 2010 (H to Z)
Dear Chander,
Brigadier Abhay Bhargava has done commendable work and set a fine
example for all the veterans to follow.
My congratulations to Brigadier Abhay Bhargava.
Harbhajan Singh
Lt Gen
-----------
From: Virendra Swarup [mailto:colonelviruswarup@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 January 2010 01:21
To: brigabhay@gmail.com
Subject: Well done ...
Dear Brig Abhay,
Kindly accept my compliments for excellent work in helping out our ex-servicemen brethren; keep it up...
May God Bless You,
Take care,
Viru Swarup
www.colonelviruswarup.com
5116, East Butler Dr
Paradise Valley, AZ 85253, USA
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Air Vice Marshal A Abhayakumar (Retd.) No. 17 1st Main Road Domlur Layout, Bangalore - 560071 Tel:80-535-1677
MEMBERSHIP FEE OF IESM by Gp Capt VK Gandhi
MEMBERSHIP FEE OF IESM
AND DONATIONS FOR IESM
Dear Veterans
IESM Governing body had been getting suggestions from veterans and conveners that there was a need to increase the number of members for IESM and the only way to achieve this was by reduction in membership fee for the veterans. In deference to the opinion from the veterans, IESM Governing Body reduced the membership fee for one month from 16 Dec 2009 to 15 Jan 2010 on a trial basis. As against the regular membership fee of Rs 500, Rs 200 and Rs 100 for officers, JCOs and OR, the fee was reduced to Rs 100, Rs 40 and Rs 10 respectively.
Approximately 3,500 members have been enrolled during this one month of the trial period. A minuscule number amongst them have given some donation. While we all certainly feel happy about the large number of IESM members enrolled during this short period but this has not generated the wave of membership which was expected. The collections have been so small on account of membership fee that there will be very little interest on this when put in fixed deposit. It is for the information of the members that as per Govt rules of societies we have to put this amount in a corpus fund and can only use the interest earned on it for meeting the expenditure. On the other hand the donations received are so small that they do not merit any mention. In any case the seemingly large number of new members so enrolled is also because of the concerted membership drive during this period by most Conveners. One wonders if membership drive with this zeal and spirit was undertaken with full membership fee, Would we have not made these members?
The Governing Body of IESM, in its meeting on Sunday, 31 Jan 10, examined the number of new members joined viz a viz the finances of the IESM.
Maj Gen PK Renjen, Treasurer IESM explained the financial problem arising out of this reduced membership fee on trial basis. Registration of one member costs over Rs 20 , which includes the cost of form, postage for forms to conveners, postage of forms back to IESM HQ, cost of printing membership card, postage for dispatching membership cards to members and the travel expenses of the conveners visiting villages for enrolling new members. He appreciated the effort put in by few dedicated conveners and veterans of spending their own money,without any charges to IESM, for enrolling new members. He explained that this system of free service by the conveners/veterans is an exception and can not be expected to be a rule. Besides the above expenses, considerable amount is deducted as service charges by the bank on the cheques that are deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank away from NCR. For example bank has levied a charge of Rs 16000/ in 2008-09 as transfer charges for the amounts deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank branches outside Delhi. We have taken it up with the bank to wave aside these charges but as on today IESM account has been deducted with this amount. If above pattern to enrol members and donations with reduced membership rates is continued, IESM will soon be left cash-less to meet routine expenses. If the collections cannot match the initial expenses of membership itself, how can be there any saving for future expenses?
The Treasurer further explained that as per existing Government rules, IESM has to meet its expenses from the donations received and the interest earned from the corpus in bank. The donations given by the veterans in Financial Year 2008-09 were sufficient for our expenses in that financial year and IESM expenses in the current financial year till December 09. He further explained that an effort was made to approach the corporate houses for the donations for IESM. But the corporate houses have explained that as per their policy the donations can be given for upliftment of villages, downtrodden and extremely poor people and that too on health, environment and education projects. IESM does not fall in any of these categories, hence the possibility of getting large donations from corporate houses is very remote. The process of approaching the corporate houses is still continuing. Hence IESM would have to find its own resources of meeting its expenditure through a large membership fee corpus (to generate handsome interest income) and by depending essentially on donations by the better off ESM - particularly those who are running their own businesses.
Hardly any donations have been received in the current financial year. With just two lakh rupees plus left in the kitty for expenses in the current financial year – the treasurer asked the other members in the meeting as to how would IESM meet the expenses for the forthcoming rally for depositing the medals on 14 March? Expected expenditure for the rally will be roughly Rs2.5 lakh. And the expected expenditure for the court case for OROP is likely to be in the range of Rs 5 lakh, which IESM should file, sooner than later.
Funds are also required for daily administrative work of IESM. IESM has not set up a separate office only because it wants to conserve meagre resources available with it. The work load of IESM is increasing manifold with setting up of three divisions to help the ESM, necessitating immediate renting of office space, suitably equipping and furnishing it and hiring clerical staff. It is inescapable to invest in office space to garner the confidence of the veterans.
Those of the Governing Body members who have been moving in the villages and felt the pulse of the veterans while addressing rallies, have indicated that the ORs feel that Rs 100/ as one time fee for life membership is reasonable and affordable and should not be reduced. We have also received similar feed back from the field that the one time fee of Rs 100 as life member is reasonable and affordable. However some members have also favoured the permanent reduction in membership fee.
Governing body deliberated on this issue at length and unanimously decided the following.
Welcome the new members in the IESM family.
Thank the conveners and veterans who have made extra effort to enrol new members at reduced membership fee. It is expected that the conveners and veterans would continue with same zeal and vigour to enrol more members in future also.
Membership fee has been restored to its original rate that is officers Rs 500/, JCOs Rs 200 and ORs Rs 100 with effect from 15 Jan 10. Membership fee for widows would be Nil. All new members should now be enrolled with this fee structure.
More effort would be put in to convince the corporate houses and business leaders for donations.
An appeal would be made to all veterans to donate generously to the IESM.
To meet the immediate needs of finance, the amount paid by a member be split into two as follows, and record it as such;
Contribution Rs Membership Fee Rs Donation Rs Officer 500 100 400
JCO 200 40 160
OR 100 20 80
APPEAL; ALL VETERANS ARE REQUESTED TO DONATE GENEROUSLY FOR IESM. ALL DONATIONS ENJOY EXEMPTION UNDER RULE 80G OF INCOME TAX RULES. A RECEIPT WILL BE ISSUED TO ALL DONORS
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
AND DONATIONS FOR IESM
Dear Veterans
IESM Governing body had been getting suggestions from veterans and conveners that there was a need to increase the number of members for IESM and the only way to achieve this was by reduction in membership fee for the veterans. In deference to the opinion from the veterans, IESM Governing Body reduced the membership fee for one month from 16 Dec 2009 to 15 Jan 2010 on a trial basis. As against the regular membership fee of Rs 500, Rs 200 and Rs 100 for officers, JCOs and OR, the fee was reduced to Rs 100, Rs 40 and Rs 10 respectively.
Approximately 3,500 members have been enrolled during this one month of the trial period. A minuscule number amongst them have given some donation. While we all certainly feel happy about the large number of IESM members enrolled during this short period but this has not generated the wave of membership which was expected. The collections have been so small on account of membership fee that there will be very little interest on this when put in fixed deposit. It is for the information of the members that as per Govt rules of societies we have to put this amount in a corpus fund and can only use the interest earned on it for meeting the expenditure. On the other hand the donations received are so small that they do not merit any mention. In any case the seemingly large number of new members so enrolled is also because of the concerted membership drive during this period by most Conveners. One wonders if membership drive with this zeal and spirit was undertaken with full membership fee, Would we have not made these members?
The Governing Body of IESM, in its meeting on Sunday, 31 Jan 10, examined the number of new members joined viz a viz the finances of the IESM.
Maj Gen PK Renjen, Treasurer IESM explained the financial problem arising out of this reduced membership fee on trial basis. Registration of one member costs over Rs 20 , which includes the cost of form, postage for forms to conveners, postage of forms back to IESM HQ, cost of printing membership card, postage for dispatching membership cards to members and the travel expenses of the conveners visiting villages for enrolling new members. He appreciated the effort put in by few dedicated conveners and veterans of spending their own money,without any charges to IESM, for enrolling new members. He explained that this system of free service by the conveners/veterans is an exception and can not be expected to be a rule. Besides the above expenses, considerable amount is deducted as service charges by the bank on the cheques that are deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank away from NCR. For example bank has levied a charge of Rs 16000/ in 2008-09 as transfer charges for the amounts deposited by the conveners in HDFC bank branches outside Delhi. We have taken it up with the bank to wave aside these charges but as on today IESM account has been deducted with this amount. If above pattern to enrol members and donations with reduced membership rates is continued, IESM will soon be left cash-less to meet routine expenses. If the collections cannot match the initial expenses of membership itself, how can be there any saving for future expenses?
The Treasurer further explained that as per existing Government rules, IESM has to meet its expenses from the donations received and the interest earned from the corpus in bank. The donations given by the veterans in Financial Year 2008-09 were sufficient for our expenses in that financial year and IESM expenses in the current financial year till December 09. He further explained that an effort was made to approach the corporate houses for the donations for IESM. But the corporate houses have explained that as per their policy the donations can be given for upliftment of villages, downtrodden and extremely poor people and that too on health, environment and education projects. IESM does not fall in any of these categories, hence the possibility of getting large donations from corporate houses is very remote. The process of approaching the corporate houses is still continuing. Hence IESM would have to find its own resources of meeting its expenditure through a large membership fee corpus (to generate handsome interest income) and by depending essentially on donations by the better off ESM - particularly those who are running their own businesses.
Hardly any donations have been received in the current financial year. With just two lakh rupees plus left in the kitty for expenses in the current financial year – the treasurer asked the other members in the meeting as to how would IESM meet the expenses for the forthcoming rally for depositing the medals on 14 March? Expected expenditure for the rally will be roughly Rs2.5 lakh. And the expected expenditure for the court case for OROP is likely to be in the range of Rs 5 lakh, which IESM should file, sooner than later.
Funds are also required for daily administrative work of IESM. IESM has not set up a separate office only because it wants to conserve meagre resources available with it. The work load of IESM is increasing manifold with setting up of three divisions to help the ESM, necessitating immediate renting of office space, suitably equipping and furnishing it and hiring clerical staff. It is inescapable to invest in office space to garner the confidence of the veterans.
Those of the Governing Body members who have been moving in the villages and felt the pulse of the veterans while addressing rallies, have indicated that the ORs feel that Rs 100/ as one time fee for life membership is reasonable and affordable and should not be reduced. We have also received similar feed back from the field that the one time fee of Rs 100 as life member is reasonable and affordable. However some members have also favoured the permanent reduction in membership fee.
Governing body deliberated on this issue at length and unanimously decided the following.
Welcome the new members in the IESM family.
Thank the conveners and veterans who have made extra effort to enrol new members at reduced membership fee. It is expected that the conveners and veterans would continue with same zeal and vigour to enrol more members in future also.
Membership fee has been restored to its original rate that is officers Rs 500/, JCOs Rs 200 and ORs Rs 100 with effect from 15 Jan 10. Membership fee for widows would be Nil. All new members should now be enrolled with this fee structure.
More effort would be put in to convince the corporate houses and business leaders for donations.
An appeal would be made to all veterans to donate generously to the IESM.
To meet the immediate needs of finance, the amount paid by a member be split into two as follows, and record it as such;
Contribution Rs Membership Fee Rs Donation Rs Officer 500 100 400
JCO 200 40 160
OR 100 20 80
APPEAL; ALL VETERANS ARE REQUESTED TO DONATE GENEROUSLY FOR IESM. ALL DONATIONS ENJOY EXEMPTION UNDER RULE 80G OF INCOME TAX RULES. A RECEIPT WILL BE ISSUED TO ALL DONORS
Regards
Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM
Gen Sec IESM
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
New Members from Doon Valley..Thanks to Lt col BM Thapa
DETAILS OF MEMBERS ENROLLED
BY Lt Col B M Thapa,Retd, Veteran,Doon Valley
UNDER REDUCED MEMBERSHIP DRIVE
Dear General,
Cordial regards.
The following 201 ESM have taken IESM life membership from Doon Valley during 15 Dec 09—15 Jan 10. Rs 8100.00 has been deposited in IESM HDFCA/C and their forms with bank slips have been dispatched to you for issuing IESM membership number and IESM Card please:-
Amount Deposited on 18 Dec 09, on 23.12.09 and on 16 Jan 10 in IESM A/C
1.V-204M LT COL J P NAUTIYAL RS 100.00
2. V-243L COL S C SHARMA RS 100.00
3. V-270P LT COL KR A K PUNDIR RS 100.00
4. 1C-24849N LT COL SHAMSHER SINGH THAPA RS 100.00
5.EC-50697 MAJOR VINOD KUMAR DABRAL RS 100.00
6 IC- 34918M LT COL U C KUTHARI RS 100.00
7. AC 5821 SQN LDR D K BALI RS 100.00
8. IC-19275H MAJ VINOD KUMAR BALI RS 100.00
9. IC-6249 COL B B UPRETI RS 100.00
10. IC-21745F LT COL AMAR SINGH BHANDARI RS 100.00
11. IC16142 COL RAMESH CHANDRA JOSHI RS100.00
12. IC-11578 LT COL B S CHHETRI RS100.00
13. IC-21698 LT COL R K CHAWLA RS 100.00
14. IC-19085 LT COL R K ARYA RS 100.00
15. IC-19103 LT COL DIWAN SINGH KHADKA RS 100.00
16. V-294Y LT COL MOHAN LAL SHARMA RS 100.00
17. IC-15111 LT COL K B SETHI RS 100.00
18. IC-18791 LT COL R P JAIRATH ,SM RS 100.00
SHAKHA NAWADA(Dehradun)
19. JC-94884N H/CAPT O B CHHETRI RS 100.00
20. JC-155510 H/CAPT TARA CHAND RS 100.00
21. JC-42794 H/CAPT SEWA SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
22. JC-201776 H/CAPT BRAHMA NAND RS 100.00
23. JC-224490 H/LT K B THAPA RS. 40.00
24. JC-617227 SUB DALIP SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
25. JC-617291 SUB R S THAPA RS 40.00
26. JC-138603 NB/SUB B B GURUNG RS 40.00
27. JC-5436917 NB/SUB SHER JANG THAPA RS 40.00
28. JC-8163 SUB TEK BAHADUR PUN RS 40.00
SHAKHA SHYAMPUR(Dehradun)
29. SUB MAJ KUNWAR SINGH BUTOLA RS 40.00
30. SUB MAJ DIL BAHADUR THAPA RS 40.00
31. H/CAPT BHAGWAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
32. H/LT HARI SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
33. SUB MAJ DHRUV SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
34. SUB MAJ GANESH BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
35. H/LT KISHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
36. N/SUB NARESH THAPA RS 40.00
37. CPOR CHET BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
38. N/SUB MAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
39. H/SM THAM BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
40. SUB CHHETRA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
41. SUB MAJ MAIRAM SINGH RS 40.00
42. NB SUB TEK BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
43. H/CAPT YUDBIR SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
44. H/NSUB SULTAN SINGH RANA RS 40.00
45.H/CAPT MOHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
46. H/SM MAN SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
47. SUB MAJ R C OLI RS 40.00
48. H/NSUB SANTOSH KM THAPA RS 40.00
49. H/CAPT KARNA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
50. NIRMAL KM GURUNG RS 40.00
51. H/CAPT GORE GURUNG RS 40.00
52. SUB SURENDER SINGH PANWAR RS 40.00
53. H/CAPT GOVIND SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
54. SUB RAJENDAR SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
55. SUB NAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
56. N/SUB JHALAK BDR GURUNG RS 10.00
57. SUB MAJ DALIP KUMAR RS. 40.00
58.SUB MAJ DAL BDR RS 40.00
59. H/LT PREM BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
60. SUB DINESH KUMAR RS 40.00
61. H/CAPT R B TANDON RS. 40.00
OR
62. HAV VASUDEV PANTHI RS 10.00
63. NK PURAN SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
64. RFN C S THAPA RS 10.00
65. NK DEVENDRA SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
67.CARPL LILA BAHADUR SINGH RS 40.00
68. HAV ASHOK KM GURUNG RS 40.00
69. NK BHUPENDAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
70. HAV KAMAN SINGH KHATRI RS 40.00
71. NK TIKAM SINGH JINA RS 40.00
72. HAV PREM SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
73. L/NK RAM BDR CHHETRI RS 40.00
74.Hav HARI PRASAD THAPA RS 10.00
75. Hav JANG BDR THAPA RS 10.00
76. HAV GAGAN SINGH THAKUR RS 10.00
77. NK SHER BAHADUR THAPA RS 10.00
78.HAV INDAR SINGH BISHT RS 10.00
79.NK SANJAY KUMAR GURUNG RS 10.00
80. HAV BADRI PRASAD RANA RS 10.00
81. RFN PREM JANG THAPA RS 10.00
82. NK PADAM BDR CHHETRI RS 10.00
83.HAV ARJUN SINGH OLI RS 10.00
84. RFN SURESH KUMAR RS 10.00
85. RFN GOPAL SINGH RS 10.00
Ser No
Rank
Name
Amount in Rs
86
LT COL
D B THAPA
100
87
LT COL
H S DEEPAK THAPA
100
88
MAJ
Y B THAPA
100
89
SEA MAN
M S RAWAT
10
90
LT COL
R S NEGI
100
91
SUB
B B GURUNG
40
92
SMT
DURGA DEVI W/O LATE
L/NK BAHADUR SINGH
10
93
NK
BISHNU BAHADUR GRUNG
10
94
HAV
I B BHANDARI
10
95
H/CAPT
H P RAI
100
96
RFN
TEJ BAHADUR SHRESHTRA
10
97
RFN
MAN BAHADUR THAPA
10
98
H/CAPT
Y B BHANDARI
100
99
NB SUB
NANDA BIR THAPA
40
100
H/CAPT
R L KHATRI
100
101
NK
R S BARTHWAL
10
102
H/CAPT
M S RAWAT
100
103
HAV
S S RAWAT
10
104
H/CAPT
M P JASOLA
100
105
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
106
L/NK
G S NEGI
10
107
HAV
B S KATWAL
10
108
L/S
G P CHANDOLA
10
109
HAV
B S BISHT
10
110
H/CAPT
P D BASONI
100
111
SUB
A M TIWARI
40
112
NK
A S NEGI
10
113
HAV
S S PANWAR
10
114
NK
D S NEGI
10
115
NB SUB
KANWAR SINGH
40
116
SUB
C S RAWAT
40
117
HAV
S S BISHT
10
118
NK
B S KATHURA
10
119
NB SUB
BPS KANDARI
40
120
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
121
SUB MAJ
L B CHHETRI
40
122
H/CAPT
G S RANA
100
123
NB SUB
G B CHHTRI
40
124
H/CAPT
D S CHAUHAN
100
125
SUB MAJ
D S NEGI
40
126
HAV
I S NEGI
10
127
SUB MAJ
B B MAL
40
128
NB SUB
D S MEHTA
40
129
H/CAPT
G S BISHT
100
130
RFN
M S TARIYAL
10
131
NB SUB
BACHAN SINGH
40
132
SUB MAJ
A S KANDARI
40
133
NB SUB
CHANDRA BAHADUR
40
134
RIS
HIRA SINGH
40
135
HAV
SOHAN LAL SHARMA
10
136
MRS
HIM MAYA W/O LATE NB SUB
HIRA SINGH THAPA
40
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 29 JAN 10
137
AIR CMDE
A K KHANNA
100
138
LT COL
G B GURUNG
100
139
CPOR(TEL0
SHYAM SINGH SHARMA
40
140
NB SUB
J P ADHIKARI
40
141
H/CAPT
GOPAL TAMANG
40
142
SUB MAJ
HET BAHADUR KARKI
40
143
H/CAPT
FAUDA SINGH THAPA
40
144
SUB
KUMAR THAPA
40
145
H/LIEUT
NIRMAL KUMAR THAPA
40
146
H/LIEUT
NARAIN SINGH NEGI
40
147
H/CAPT
JABAR SINGH GRUNG
40
148
RFN
MOTI BAHADUR THAPA
10
149
SEP
MOHAN SINGH RANA
10
150
NK
C B THAPA
10
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 01 FEB 10 JAN 10
151
MAJOR
B S NEGI
100
152
MRS
CHANDA DEVI W/O SUB
LAKHPATI SINGH
40
153
SUB MAJ
NATHI SINGH PUNDIR
40
154
SUB MAJ
RAJENDER MAL
40
155
HAV
B P SHARMA
10
156
HAV
SUNIL KUMAR SHARMA
10
157
NK
MAHINDER SINGH
10
158
HAV
BIKRAM SINGH SINDHWAL
10
159
NK
KANWAR SINGH NEGI
10
160
HAV
RAM KISHORE TEWARI
10
161
NK
MATWAR SINGH PUNDIR
10
162
HAV
BASANT LAL
10
163
NK
GIRBIR SINGH
10
164
NK
KANWAR SINGH
10
165
HAV
RAGHUBIR SINGH
10
166
HAV
JIT RAM
10
167
L/NK
SHIV SINGH NEGI
10
168
HAV
SHER JUNG BAHADUR MALL
10
169
NK
BUDH SINGH RAWAT
10
170
NK
DARSHAN SINGH PUNDIR
10
171
SMT
VANDANA DEVI W/O LATE HAV
AMAR DEV SAKLANI
10
172
SEP
RAI CHAND NEGI
10
173
HAV
HARDEEP SINGH
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR SHYAMPUR SHAKHA Dehradun
174
H/CAPT
SANT BAHADUR PUN
40
175
H/CAPT
SURENDRA KUMAR PRADHAN
40
176
NB SUB
YOGENDRA SINGH THAPA
40
177
RIS
DARWAN SINGH BISHT
40
178
RFN
HIM BAHADUR CHHETRI
10
179
HAV
GOPAL SINGH BISHT
10
180
GDS MAN
A S RANA
10
181
HAV
VISHNU KUMAR GURUNG
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
182
H/CAPT
LACHHIMAN SINGH GURUNG
40
183
H/CAPT
JEET SINGH KHATRI
40
184
H/NB SUB
THAMAN BAHADUR ADHIKARI
10
185
H/NB SUB
DEVENDRA SINGH KHATRI
10
186
SMT
VIDHYA THAPA W/O LATE
CHANDRA BAHADUR THAPA
10
187
SMT
BIMLA DEVI W/O L/NK ANAND
SINGH KHATRI
10
188
SMT
SITA KUMARI THAPA
1
W/O LATE NK TEK BDR THAPA
10
189
NK
AJAI KHATRI
10
190
RFN
GANESH SHARMA
10
191
HAV
VIRENDRA SINGH
10
192
HAV
R K SHERESHTA
10
193
NK
DAMBAR BAHADUR THAPA
10
194
NK
RAMESH SINGH NEGI
10
195
HAV
C S RAWAT
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
196
H/CAPT
OM PRAKASH KHATRI
40
197
H/CAPT
RAVINDRA SINGH KHATRI
40
198
SUB
RAMESH KHATRI
40
199
SUB
BIKRAM SINGH KHATRI
40
200
SUB
SURESH SINGH
40
201
H/SUB MAJ
SURAT SINGH
40
The suggested proforma by Brig C S Kamboj duly filled is also enclosed at Appx “A” herewith please. More ESM are keen to take membership under reduced membership drive as suggested by Col S S Rajan and others too.
Sd/xxxxx
(Lt Col B M Thapa, Retd)
Veteran
BY Lt Col B M Thapa,Retd, Veteran,Doon Valley
UNDER REDUCED MEMBERSHIP DRIVE
Dear General,
Cordial regards.
The following 201 ESM have taken IESM life membership from Doon Valley during 15 Dec 09—15 Jan 10. Rs 8100.00 has been deposited in IESM HDFCA/C and their forms with bank slips have been dispatched to you for issuing IESM membership number and IESM Card please:-
Amount Deposited on 18 Dec 09, on 23.12.09 and on 16 Jan 10 in IESM A/C
1.V-204M LT COL J P NAUTIYAL RS 100.00
2. V-243L COL S C SHARMA RS 100.00
3. V-270P LT COL KR A K PUNDIR RS 100.00
4. 1C-24849N LT COL SHAMSHER SINGH THAPA RS 100.00
5.EC-50697 MAJOR VINOD KUMAR DABRAL RS 100.00
6 IC- 34918M LT COL U C KUTHARI RS 100.00
7. AC 5821 SQN LDR D K BALI RS 100.00
8. IC-19275H MAJ VINOD KUMAR BALI RS 100.00
9. IC-6249 COL B B UPRETI RS 100.00
10. IC-21745F LT COL AMAR SINGH BHANDARI RS 100.00
11. IC16142 COL RAMESH CHANDRA JOSHI RS100.00
12. IC-11578 LT COL B S CHHETRI RS100.00
13. IC-21698 LT COL R K CHAWLA RS 100.00
14. IC-19085 LT COL R K ARYA RS 100.00
15. IC-19103 LT COL DIWAN SINGH KHADKA RS 100.00
16. V-294Y LT COL MOHAN LAL SHARMA RS 100.00
17. IC-15111 LT COL K B SETHI RS 100.00
18. IC-18791 LT COL R P JAIRATH ,SM RS 100.00
SHAKHA NAWADA(Dehradun)
19. JC-94884N H/CAPT O B CHHETRI RS 100.00
20. JC-155510 H/CAPT TARA CHAND RS 100.00
21. JC-42794 H/CAPT SEWA SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
22. JC-201776 H/CAPT BRAHMA NAND RS 100.00
23. JC-224490 H/LT K B THAPA RS. 40.00
24. JC-617227 SUB DALIP SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
25. JC-617291 SUB R S THAPA RS 40.00
26. JC-138603 NB/SUB B B GURUNG RS 40.00
27. JC-5436917 NB/SUB SHER JANG THAPA RS 40.00
28. JC-8163 SUB TEK BAHADUR PUN RS 40.00
SHAKHA SHYAMPUR(Dehradun)
29. SUB MAJ KUNWAR SINGH BUTOLA RS 40.00
30. SUB MAJ DIL BAHADUR THAPA RS 40.00
31. H/CAPT BHAGWAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
32. H/LT HARI SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
33. SUB MAJ DHRUV SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
34. SUB MAJ GANESH BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
35. H/LT KISHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
36. N/SUB NARESH THAPA RS 40.00
37. CPOR CHET BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
38. N/SUB MAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
39. H/SM THAM BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
40. SUB CHHETRA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
41. SUB MAJ MAIRAM SINGH RS 40.00
42. NB SUB TEK BAHADUR RANA RS 40.00
43. H/CAPT YUDBIR SINGH BISHT RS 40.00
44. H/NSUB SULTAN SINGH RANA RS 40.00
45.H/CAPT MOHAN SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
46. H/SM MAN SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
47. SUB MAJ R C OLI RS 40.00
48. H/NSUB SANTOSH KM THAPA RS 40.00
49. H/CAPT KARNA BDR THAPA RS 40.00
50. NIRMAL KM GURUNG RS 40.00
51. H/CAPT GORE GURUNG RS 40.00
52. SUB SURENDER SINGH PANWAR RS 40.00
53. H/CAPT GOVIND SINGH GURUNG RS 40.00
54. SUB RAJENDAR SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
55. SUB NAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
56. N/SUB JHALAK BDR GURUNG RS 10.00
57. SUB MAJ DALIP KUMAR RS. 40.00
58.SUB MAJ DAL BDR RS 40.00
59. H/LT PREM BDR GURUNG RS 40.00
60. SUB DINESH KUMAR RS 40.00
61. H/CAPT R B TANDON RS. 40.00
OR
62. HAV VASUDEV PANTHI RS 10.00
63. NK PURAN SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
64. RFN C S THAPA RS 10.00
65. NK DEVENDRA SINGH THAPA RS 10.00
67.CARPL LILA BAHADUR SINGH RS 40.00
68. HAV ASHOK KM GURUNG RS 40.00
69. NK BHUPENDAR BDR THAPA RS 40.00
70. HAV KAMAN SINGH KHATRI RS 40.00
71. NK TIKAM SINGH JINA RS 40.00
72. HAV PREM SINGH THAPA RS 40.00
73. L/NK RAM BDR CHHETRI RS 40.00
74.Hav HARI PRASAD THAPA RS 10.00
75. Hav JANG BDR THAPA RS 10.00
76. HAV GAGAN SINGH THAKUR RS 10.00
77. NK SHER BAHADUR THAPA RS 10.00
78.HAV INDAR SINGH BISHT RS 10.00
79.NK SANJAY KUMAR GURUNG RS 10.00
80. HAV BADRI PRASAD RANA RS 10.00
81. RFN PREM JANG THAPA RS 10.00
82. NK PADAM BDR CHHETRI RS 10.00
83.HAV ARJUN SINGH OLI RS 10.00
84. RFN SURESH KUMAR RS 10.00
85. RFN GOPAL SINGH RS 10.00
Ser No
Rank
Name
Amount in Rs
86
LT COL
D B THAPA
100
87
LT COL
H S DEEPAK THAPA
100
88
MAJ
Y B THAPA
100
89
SEA MAN
M S RAWAT
10
90
LT COL
R S NEGI
100
91
SUB
B B GURUNG
40
92
SMT
DURGA DEVI W/O LATE
L/NK BAHADUR SINGH
10
93
NK
BISHNU BAHADUR GRUNG
10
94
HAV
I B BHANDARI
10
95
H/CAPT
H P RAI
100
96
RFN
TEJ BAHADUR SHRESHTRA
10
97
RFN
MAN BAHADUR THAPA
10
98
H/CAPT
Y B BHANDARI
100
99
NB SUB
NANDA BIR THAPA
40
100
H/CAPT
R L KHATRI
100
101
NK
R S BARTHWAL
10
102
H/CAPT
M S RAWAT
100
103
HAV
S S RAWAT
10
104
H/CAPT
M P JASOLA
100
105
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
106
L/NK
G S NEGI
10
107
HAV
B S KATWAL
10
108
L/S
G P CHANDOLA
10
109
HAV
B S BISHT
10
110
H/CAPT
P D BASONI
100
111
SUB
A M TIWARI
40
112
NK
A S NEGI
10
113
HAV
S S PANWAR
10
114
NK
D S NEGI
10
115
NB SUB
KANWAR SINGH
40
116
SUB
C S RAWAT
40
117
HAV
S S BISHT
10
118
NK
B S KATHURA
10
119
NB SUB
BPS KANDARI
40
120
H/CAPT
M S NEGI
100
121
SUB MAJ
L B CHHETRI
40
122
H/CAPT
G S RANA
100
123
NB SUB
G B CHHTRI
40
124
H/CAPT
D S CHAUHAN
100
125
SUB MAJ
D S NEGI
40
126
HAV
I S NEGI
10
127
SUB MAJ
B B MAL
40
128
NB SUB
D S MEHTA
40
129
H/CAPT
G S BISHT
100
130
RFN
M S TARIYAL
10
131
NB SUB
BACHAN SINGH
40
132
SUB MAJ
A S KANDARI
40
133
NB SUB
CHANDRA BAHADUR
40
134
RIS
HIRA SINGH
40
135
HAV
SOHAN LAL SHARMA
10
136
MRS
HIM MAYA W/O LATE NB SUB
HIRA SINGH THAPA
40
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 29 JAN 10
137
AIR CMDE
A K KHANNA
100
138
LT COL
G B GURUNG
100
139
CPOR(TEL0
SHYAM SINGH SHARMA
40
140
NB SUB
J P ADHIKARI
40
141
H/CAPT
GOPAL TAMANG
40
142
SUB MAJ
HET BAHADUR KARKI
40
143
H/CAPT
FAUDA SINGH THAPA
40
144
SUB
KUMAR THAPA
40
145
H/LIEUT
NIRMAL KUMAR THAPA
40
146
H/LIEUT
NARAIN SINGH NEGI
40
147
H/CAPT
JABAR SINGH GRUNG
40
148
RFN
MOTI BAHADUR THAPA
10
149
SEP
MOHAN SINGH RANA
10
150
NK
C B THAPA
10
AMOUNT DEPOSITED IN IESM A/NO ON 01 FEB 10 JAN 10
151
MAJOR
B S NEGI
100
152
MRS
CHANDA DEVI W/O SUB
LAKHPATI SINGH
40
153
SUB MAJ
NATHI SINGH PUNDIR
40
154
SUB MAJ
RAJENDER MAL
40
155
HAV
B P SHARMA
10
156
HAV
SUNIL KUMAR SHARMA
10
157
NK
MAHINDER SINGH
10
158
HAV
BIKRAM SINGH SINDHWAL
10
159
NK
KANWAR SINGH NEGI
10
160
HAV
RAM KISHORE TEWARI
10
161
NK
MATWAR SINGH PUNDIR
10
162
HAV
BASANT LAL
10
163
NK
GIRBIR SINGH
10
164
NK
KANWAR SINGH
10
165
HAV
RAGHUBIR SINGH
10
166
HAV
JIT RAM
10
167
L/NK
SHIV SINGH NEGI
10
168
HAV
SHER JUNG BAHADUR MALL
10
169
NK
BUDH SINGH RAWAT
10
170
NK
DARSHAN SINGH PUNDIR
10
171
SMT
VANDANA DEVI W/O LATE HAV
AMAR DEV SAKLANI
10
172
SEP
RAI CHAND NEGI
10
173
HAV
HARDEEP SINGH
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR SHYAMPUR SHAKHA Dehradun
174
H/CAPT
SANT BAHADUR PUN
40
175
H/CAPT
SURENDRA KUMAR PRADHAN
40
176
NB SUB
YOGENDRA SINGH THAPA
40
177
RIS
DARWAN SINGH BISHT
40
178
RFN
HIM BAHADUR CHHETRI
10
179
HAV
GOPAL SINGH BISHT
10
180
GDS MAN
A S RANA
10
181
HAV
VISHNU KUMAR GURUNG
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
182
H/CAPT
LACHHIMAN SINGH GURUNG
40
183
H/CAPT
JEET SINGH KHATRI
40
184
H/NB SUB
THAMAN BAHADUR ADHIKARI
10
185
H/NB SUB
DEVENDRA SINGH KHATRI
10
186
SMT
VIDHYA THAPA W/O LATE
CHANDRA BAHADUR THAPA
10
187
SMT
BIMLA DEVI W/O L/NK ANAND
SINGH KHATRI
10
188
SMT
SITA KUMARI THAPA
1
W/O LATE NK TEK BDR THAPA
10
189
NK
AJAI KHATRI
10
190
RFN
GANESH SHARMA
10
191
HAV
VIRENDRA SINGH
10
192
HAV
R K SHERESHTA
10
193
NK
DAMBAR BAHADUR THAPA
10
194
NK
RAMESH SINGH NEGI
10
195
HAV
C S RAWAT
10
MONEY DEPOSITED ON 01.02.10 FOR GANGOL PANDITWARI SHAKHA DEHRADUN
196
H/CAPT
OM PRAKASH KHATRI
40
197
H/CAPT
RAVINDRA SINGH KHATRI
40
198
SUB
RAMESH KHATRI
40
199
SUB
BIKRAM SINGH KHATRI
40
200
SUB
SURESH SINGH
40
201
H/SUB MAJ
SURAT SINGH
40
The suggested proforma by Brig C S Kamboj duly filled is also enclosed at Appx “A” herewith please. More ESM are keen to take membership under reduced membership drive as suggested by Col S S Rajan and others too.
Sd/xxxxx
(Lt Col B M Thapa, Retd)
Veteran
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