Sent: Fri, 30 October, 2009 4:57:11 PM
Subject: Joint Letter to The PM
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
I have received numerous mails from you all appreciating the joint effort put in by all the signatory ESM Orgs in drafting the letter ( it was not a single person's effort!) and importantly, being willing to sign it. I regret to say that even though I tried my best to get the Air Force Assn on board with personal calls, mails & SMS's, there was no response. I would like to place on record Brig Gulia's help, despite our differences on many occasions, as he played a major part in this joint effort. It was his initiative to call all orgs for a meeting to discuss the Cab Secs report on 6 Aug 09. It was IESL which provided staff support for printing the letters, repeatedly till we got it right. Some suggestions have come to tweak the letter further. Regret they can only be incl in the next letter, if any.
I can also report that the letter has reached the COAS and it has been passed down for action. Thanks to Air Cmde Chandershekhar, who was here from Bangalore, we have got a copy of the letter delivered to the RM by hand. Interestingly it had not been put up him over the last15 days. We are also exploring ways to see that a copy reaches the PM, Leader of the Opposition and other MPs.
After lapse of say 5 weeks we will go to the press.
Ways of financing the ads are being considered.
Satish
Lt Gen SK Bahri (Retd) (1st JSW Course)
E 403 Som Vihar Apts, RK Puram
Dear Veteran (Gen.) Bahri,
ReplyDeleteRegards and thanks for the pain taken to draw the attention of the authorities towards the travails of the Veterans, specially Pre-2006. Sir, if you are net-savy, you must have noted the feelings of informed veterans among the under- privileged section ( Sub.Maj. and below).I shall not use the misfit term 'PBOR' coined by some mischief monger ( to be used for all ranks- Sub. Maj. and below ) who knew not that Sub. Majors, Subedars and Naib Subedars are, all, Junior Commissioned officers, where as Havildars and Naiks are Senior Non-commissioned Officers and it is not justified to address them as 'PBORs' i.e. Personnel Below Officer Rank.Through you, I shall, humbly, request all not to use the term 'PBORs'. We have already requested Centre Govt. to find out some other suitable and respectable word to replace this sluggish term. About the Joint Memorandum, I have the following two points to draw your attention.
1. The authors of Joint Memorandum dt. 14-10-
2009,of which you are the Convener,
submitted to Hon'ble Prime Minister and
others have forgotten to stress upon point
of pension @70 % and 60 % for Sub. Maj.
and below, which the Govt. has accepted
along with Change of Pay Band from PB-3 to
PB-4 for Lt Col. It may be due the fact
that enough energy was consumed on
stressing the demand of Lt. Col. and the
authors were now much tired and thought it
better to keep quite on this point in a
bid to utilize their energy for other
points relating to offr. cadre.
2. Secondly, Sub. Major and their equivalents
in other two services, presently in Pay
Band, PB-2 justifiably deserve to be placed
in pay Band PB-3 and Hav. and their
equivalents, presently in Pay Band, PB-1
along with Class IV employees to be placed
in Pay Band, PB-2 as their civilian counter-
parts drawing same, or even less, pay in
5thCPC have been placed in upper Pay Bands.
Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
President,
Indian Ex-Services League, Punjab &
Chadigarh
Mob.098554-09128,Tele-Fax.0175-5000896.
Respected General. Regards----Under your leadership joint letter written to PM shows that you are totally committed to see we all get our rightful dues of OROP .Is is an positive joint move ,to represnt exservicemen but after reading the contents I personally feel nothing regarding 70% issue included in the letter. In fact Govt. agreed and committed having agreed but keeping mom. Pl write seprate letter and oblige. thanks.
ReplyDeleteSir All Associations signed letter have totally forgetten they are representing all ranks encluding JCOs/SNCOs and jawans who,s welfare should have been first by alloting high prioriry ,but totally neglected and joint letter does not contain even one issue pertaining to the poor jawans who are deprieved ---and are waiting till date and got nothing. On the other hand officers enjoyed Diwally by receiving lacs as arrears. Sir , Now, time has changed and nothing can be hidden and 90% jawans are educated through Net, Computer,Media and press the real picture can be seen. SORRY TO SAY WE ARE LOOSING FAITH ON OUR REPRESENTATIVES ( OFFRS ).---AND FOR THAT BLAME HAS TO BE SHARED BY OUR SENIOR VETERANS Keeping in view the above and also also letter written to you sir by by Veteran Prabhjot singh every word written are true and request sir demage control measures must be take immediately before it is too lateplease try to regain lost faith . You are requested to please do the needful and oblige. Please pardon me for hard words. Thanks sir. ------------------Your,s faithfull----RKS
ReplyDeleteRESPECTED SIR,
ReplyDeleteAlthough the OFFICERS segment was fotunate to have garnered the benefits, from Implementation of AVS Committee Recommendations Phase I and II, Liberal and Generous benefits under VI CPC recommendations, yet there was large scale resentment and unhappiness on the outcome of CPC report. Especially the ORs, for the very low benefits dished out to them. Even worse was in store for the Veterans.
Taking advantage of the situations, the OFFICERS class, naturally took LEAD, most ostensibly in the name of the ORs, RESTORATION OF 70% WEIGHTAGE FOR PENSIONS revision (WHICH THE GOVT AGREED IMMEDIATELY), and upgradation of Pay Scales for the Middle Level ranks of officers and other related issues pertaining to officers etc.
With the loyal and unquestioned support from the lower ranks they organised PROTESTS, DHARNAS, FASTS AND FINALLY RETURNING OF MEDALS TO THE PRESIDENT. THE GOVT was, in a way, forced to notice the disappointment in the rank and file and granted certain reliefs. Mainly for the officers - such as Lt Col from PB-3 to PB-4, Creation of HAG scale, upward revision of Pensions of Pre-96 pensioners, delinking of 33 years for earning full pension w.e.f. 1.1.2006. All in the name of PBORs. Even after 14 months after 6th CPC recommendations implemented, NOT A SINGLE BENEFIT ACCRUED to the so called PBORs.
Now WHO HAS TO TAKE UP THE ISSUES OF PBORs WITH THE GOVT OF INDIA?
The PBORs believed and hoped that as is the usual practice, their grievances would be attended and taken up by their superiors (Officers), since they are vested with the power TO DO THE CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE GOVT. They waited and waited. NO ONE CARED TO HIGH LIGHT THEIR ISSUES. AND EVERY AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY WAS WASTED. The following questions trouble the minds of PBORs -
- HAVE THE OFFICERS STOPPED THINKING ABOUT THEIR MEN?
-ARE THEY SIMPLY OR REALLY NOT AWARE OF THE ISSUES OF PBORs?
-IF THEY DO NOT SHOW CONCERN/SYMPATHY TO THE MEN'S CAUSE, AND UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES/ PROBLEMS OF THEIR MEN, HOW AND WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT FOR THE MEN FROM THE GOVT?
-IF THE OFFICERS SHED THEIR RESPONSIBILITY (AS CAN BE SEEN IN THE RECENT PAST) WHAT DO THEY EXPECT FROM THEIR MEN TO DO?
- TO SIT/KEEP QUITE TILL THE OFFICERS GET TIME TO FOCUS ON THEIR ISSUES?
- TO SEARCH AND FIND WAYS TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS/ ISSUES THEMSELVES?
PLEASE...PLEASE....SIRS....THE ABOVE QUESTIONS, agitated in the minds of your men DEMAND SOME ANSWERS AND QUICK ANSWERS.
GaviniVN
RESPECTED GENERALS REGARDS,, PLEASE FIND TIME TO REDUCE OUR INNER PAIN----REPLY ON POSITIVE NOTE ANXIOUSLY AWAITED. PLEASE OBLIGE YOUR JAWANS. ---THANKS
ReplyDeleteDear sirs
ReplyDeleteIt really pains to comment on the letter. But it is true that the so called OROP is still luring us. Eventhough the COS has ruled out the OROP just because of the previous committees have not considered the same, why at all the Govt. should promise the same time and again. Why does the COS think that the Govt. is very well knows that the earlier committees have not recommended OROP and again appointed the COS to look into the aspect. The COS should openly say that, whether the govt. has appointed the COS deliberately with a direction to reject the same.
Dear Respected General and all our respected
ReplyDeleteVeteran.
Post Joint Letters whatever written by respected Veteran PJS Chatwal ji,Respected Veteran Gavini ji,Raju ji and Sharma ji is absolutely true and to the point. This is the correct time for our big brothers to regain our faith in them. Money is not everything comparing with the faith of our dedicated Mens.
Thanks and sincere request to give an inner thought on lacs of Mens faith
Balbir Singh